Question Private property- camping

[Sydlouise]

I usually go to Perisher from Sydney every weekend in Winter and years of putting up tents in the middle of the night and packing them away in rain is getting a bit old.

I'm wondering if anyone has had success negotiating or has ideas on how to find season long camping where a sturdy canvas tent could be left up for the whole winter. Ideally somewhere with power and access to showers/toilet. Not sure if council restricts private landholders earning spare money this way but presumably attractive to people with a big lot of land. There are about 8 of us who camp almost every weekend.

I believe someone in our group has started discussions with alpine adventists but I rather like a few schnapps at the end of the day and like the idea of my stuff being somewhere more private if its an option.

 

[Majikthise]

It has been done before..
Mind you an unattended camp is exposed to the vagaries of the weather and wildlife.
I gather by the question you are fully recovered?

 

[Telemark Phat]

Jindy Noticeboard Facebook Group. It will either work well or be an entertaining trollfest. Worthwhile either way.

 

[Majikthise]

If she goes with that is she better off passing herself off as a horse lover?

 

[Legs Akimbo]

Is Pats Patch still functioning?

 

[dawooduck]

I usually go to Perisher from Sydney every weekend in Winter and years of putting up tents in the middle of the night and packing them away in rain is getting a bit old.

I'm wondering if anyone has had success negotiating or has ideas on how to find season long camping where a sturdy canvas tent could be left up for the whole winter. Ideally somewhere with power and access to showers/toilet. Not sure if council restricts private landholders earning spare money this way but presumably attractive to people with a big lot of land. There are about 8 of us who camp almost every weekend.

I believe someone in our group has started discussions with alpine adventists but I rather like a few schnapps at the end of the day and like the idea of my stuff being somewhere more private if its an option.

We are working on something along those lines for the 2018 season.

Out of interest how much would each person pay for site, fire pit, wood, water, power, covered cooking area ?

 

[telecrag]

Had a mate who did a season at Pats, lined the floor of the tent with electric blankets, and ran them 24/7. Guys next to them did the same thing, but didnt pick the site so well, came home to a burnt out tent after a rainy day....

 

[robbo mcs]

Is Pats Patch still functioning?

Yes it is.

 

[SMSkier]

Had a mate who did a season at Pats, lined the floor of the tent with electric blankets, and ran them 24/7. Guys next to them did the same thing, but didnt pick the site so well, came home to a burnt out tent after a rainy day....

That was going to happen regardless of the rain.

 

[Sydlouise]

We are working on something along those lines for the 2018 season.

Out of interest how much would each person pay for site, fire pit, wood, water, power, covered cooking area ?

$10-20 a night I'd say depending if there is somewhere to dry gear and shower plus opportunity to leave tent up / even store ski gear to make the weekly commute easier.

I think the comparison points are:

Alpine Adventists- Was $10 but now $17.50 pp a night including hot showers, toilets, powered sites, drying room but no cooking area so stuck eating out and nowhere to socialise. Plus no drinking on site.

Big 4 Jindy- $81 a night for four people unpowered, $96 powered. Hot showers, toilets, indoor kitchen, spa & sauna (coin op), fireplace room, drying room but they're trying to make you pay to hire a locker to use it etc.

Our group was going to to Adventists because cheapest but with the big price hike its not so ideal anymore.
We used to always camp Thredbo diggings (free) but wet frozen boots is the worst and we're getting soft as we get old (plus discovered how good sleeping in a car with an electric blanket is).

 

[Sydlouise]

It has been done before..
Mind you an unattended camp is exposed to the vagaries of the weather and wildlife.
I gather by the question you are fully recovered?

Still a long way off recovered, had thought I could maybe ski this February but it turns out walking up and down stairs is my greatest achievement so far. So now the Aus winter is my rehab motivation.
Probably going to have to ease back into it on a lot of green runs but I should recover to 100% hopefully during the season. Accident was in June and the specialist said 12 month recovery was most likely so I'm feeling optimistic

Wildlife and weather can bring it on, I'm looking at buying a tent like my friends which looks so indestructible, steel sprung poles, super heavy duty canvas etc. Scoping out a second hand one tonight. But yes somewhere sheltered from wind is probably a better idea than re-enacting storm scenes from Forrest Gump.

 

[WaitAwhile]

I was chatting to a bloke last year at Perisher and he was thinking of leaving his caravan at a church groups place for the season?.
Not sure if this was the alpine adventists place someone else just mentioned.
The prices were quite reasonable compared to the caravan parks.

 

[robbo mcs]

I read this thread earlier, then half an hour later reading something else I saw this

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-...g-economy-camping/8200424#.WI527YTqMJ4.mailto

At a quick glance the website they are talking appears to only have a couple of places around the NSW snowies.

Like many of the sharing economy actvities it would be interesting to know the legalities of it

 

[Sydlouise]

I was chatting to a bloke last year at Perisher and he was thinking of leaving his caravan at a church groups place for the season?.
Not sure if this was the alpine adventists place someone else just mentioned.
The prices were quite reasonable compared to the caravan parks.

Its $35 a week caravan storage at adventists, plus $17.50 per night you stay there. Better than the other parks for sure.

 

[Sydlouise]

I read this thread earlier, then half an hour later reading something else I saw this

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-...g-economy-camping/8200424#.WI527YTqMJ4.mailto

At a quick glance the website they are talking appears to only have a couple of places around the NSW snowies.

Like many of the sharing economy actvities it would be interesting to know the legalities of it

This is what made me think of it Unfortunately only one place near Jindy but I'm hoping it takes off. I saw an article shoalhaven council sending cease and desists to a farmer listing his property on there.

 

[dawooduck]

The council will be the biggest issue but I believe there are ways to obtain the relevant approvals. There certainly is demand and we have some lovely private sheltered spots. Something well set up, simple, limited numbers, short stay, private. It may not be called "camping".

Working on the DA at the moment.

 

[Egbert]

BYO tents, or your tents set up "permanently" onsite?

 

[Telemark Phat]

The council will be the biggest issue but I believe there are ways to obtain the relevant approvals. There certainly is demand and we have some lovely potential private sheltered spots. Something well set up, simple, limited numbers, short stay, private. It may not be called "camping".

Working on the DA at the moment.

Good idea!

 

[Tanuki]

Good idea!

Call it home stay, or WOOFING, maybe have them harvest some of those winter berries or something

 

[Darb]

something like what https://youcamp.com/ are doing.

Although I believe the councils are being their typical over-reaching twat selfs.

I knew of one here where they hit the private owner up for all manner of compliance requirements all because they let a few guys camp down by their river.

Bureaucracy gone mad.

 

[Gumbo]

something like what https://youcamp.com/ are doing.

Although I believe the councils are being their typical over-reaching twat selfs.

I knew of one here where they hit the private owner up for all manner of compliance requirements all because they let a few guys camp down by their river.

Bureaucracy gone mad.

How dare a local resident allow people to enjoy the town they live in

 

[ladycamper]

Adventists is a no alcohol and no drug camp. Doesn't appeal.

 

[Kelpieboy]

Although the Adventists has its limitations ie alcohol etc its not a hard rule to get around if you really want to.
I go there every winter for 4 - 6 weeks and I break their rules almost on a nightly basis. As long as your reasonably sensible about things its easy enough to have a drink. Maskarovka (Camo) is the way to go , buy a bottle of your favourite spirit and a box of mixers , drink some out of the mixer can - fill with your choice of spirit and away you go. As long as you don't make a goose of yourself its quite easy to have a few drinkies.
If you want a ciggie its not that hard either , go for a short walk 200 odd metres , stand outside the front gate and smoke 'em if you got 'em. I find the short walk quite invigorating and helps to slow the alcohol intake a bit.
As for the other types of drugs , naa not my scene anymore , sort of outgrew it fairly early on in life but if that's your thing then its still possible. Remember camo and sensible and things can be done. Its not as if they are monitoring your every move.
There is a communal bbq which gets a bit of a workout at times , it all depends on who is there at the time as to how social things get.

Anyway I don't mind the Adventists , decent facilities , decent location , reasonable price for a powered site ( I only use a swag but need my leccy for mini tv etc).

 

[Ozgirl]

Something to look into

https://www.broadsheet.com.au/sydney/travel/article/australias-new-airbnb-camping

www.youcamp.com

 

[LMB]

Something to look into

https://www.broadsheet.com.au/sydney/travel/article/australias-new-airbnb-camping

www.youcamp.com

That could have appeal for Spatto and @SuskiQ !!

 

[Makazaru]

I asked in the Jindabyne notice board (new and old) and Perisher Snow Riders, last season and heard bupkis. About four hundred PM's sharing the 'secret squirrel' adventist village though.
Will try again this year and if anything comes of it, report back.

 

[rocketboy]

Caravan and camping parks are complying developments (with a DA) on most farm lands. Only in special zones like Crackenback Valley are they not permitted under state planning code. (Dawoodduck your land is outside any restricted area under M-S Council LEPs)

 

[MattyHoll]

Stayed at Big 4 Jindabyne on Sunday night. If you like hearing trucks on the Jake brakes and cars racing along Kosciuszko Rd at all hours of the morning, pay extra for a locker to dry your gear and attempt to phone the manager 5 times and still not have them answer... Well that place is for you. Definitely not worth $81 a night, not even worth a cent more than free tbh.

 

[dawooduck]

I hope to have a decent size shed up by winter. Compost toilet and maybe and it's a very big maybe even some solar power.

 

[Me+3]

The council will be the biggest issue but I believe there are ways to obtain the relevant approvals. There certainly is demand and we have some lovely private sheltered spots. Something well set up, simple, limited numbers, short stay, private. It may not be called "camping".

Working on the DA at the moment.

How'd this end up @dawooduck ?

 

[Me+3]

How'd this end up @dawooduck ?

@dawooduck any update to the DA process ?

 

[dawooduck]

@dawooduck any update to the DA process ?

Didn't pursue for "camping". DA for house build etc all done smoothly.

 

[Jacko4650]

I hope to have a decent size shed up by winter. Compost toilet and maybe and it's a very big maybe even some solar power.

How is this plan going?

Thought this was you at first!

Varney’s View At "Duck Downs", "Duck Downs" Snowy Mountains, NSW: 13 Hipcamper Reviews And 71 Photos

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[dawooduck]

How is this plan going?

Thought this was you at first!

Varney’s View At "Duck Downs", "Duck Downs" Snowy Mountains, NSW: 13 Hipcamper Reviews And 71 Photos

Varney’s View at "Duck Downs" in "Duck Downs" Snowy Mountains, New South Wales | Rural serenity, close to NSW ski fields and endless outdoor activities. Mountain views, big...

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All done 3yrs ago

 

[Jacko4650]

All done 3yrs ago

Shame about the naming rights eh?