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Pro pronunciations!

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by telecrag, Aug 2, 2019.

  1. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Toy-motor Silly car.
     
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  2. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Only if one is wearing jandals and carrying a chilli bin.
     
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  3. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    I don't know if it does Japanese ski resorts. but ABC Pronounce is a really useful resource.
     
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    zac150 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Shouldn't This be Can naah daa eh

    Think you missed the daaarling I.e it’s Arrspen daaaring
     
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  5. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    For Japanese, some seem to be good, some bad. But this is a useful resource:

    Good:
    - Tokyo: TOH-kyoh
    - Kyoto: KYOH-toh
    - Hakuba: HAH-koo-bah. (koo as in coop)
    - Nagano: NAH-gah-noh (not NUG-uh-noh) stress is relatively even in Japanese. Good explanation

    Not good:
    - Sagawa Kyubin: suh-GAH-wuh kee-OOH-bin. Should be sah-GAH-wah queue-bin
    - Hiroshima: hi-ruh-SHEE-muh or hi-ROSH-uh-muh. This one seems to be particularly bad. Hee-ROH-she-mah. ("she" as in "her", and a soft "r", but all sounds are short)
     
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  6. skifree

    skifree Sort of old & definitely grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wunker is a small in SA, folks from the USA very often could only pronounce it Wankur. We know where they meant.
     
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    wor-sess-terr-shiyr

    as opposed to wusta-shu (as in shut)
     
  8. Red_switch

    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Nah, if you're trust fund-ed. Jandals and a chilli bean will just get you chased out of Wanaka by well-to-do poodle walkers these days.

    A lot of Australians call Coronet Peak "Coro-nay peak".

    Anyone, everyone (that commuted between Dunedin and the club lodges of Coronet between 2005 and 2012) knows that it's Coro-gnar and Re-gnar-kables.
     
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  9. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Social Media Mod

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    I'm pretty sure that was the intent.
     
  10. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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  11. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Social Media Mod

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    I'm quite sure you haven't derailed a thread in at least 12 hours!

    Oh. Hang on...
     
  12. Yourmumscookin

    Yourmumscookin Early Days

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    Da winner is....
    Sid-dar-nee
     
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  13. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tee Cee
     
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    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Social Media Mod

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    What make you think he knows the proper pronunciation? @TC is half Polish. Their pronunciation of almost anything is whacko at best.
     
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  15. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    "A coke, please"
    Took 5 minutes and 3 bystanders to get it (USA).
    " Aaaah! Yew mean a cark !!"
     
  16. buckwheat

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    Jervis or jarvis?

    People who dont know say jervis.
    People who think they know say jarvis
    People who really know say jervis.
    I think. It still confuses me.
     
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    TACKIE One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    It's got to the stage in "Hack a bar" that the locals will mispronounce local names just so the tourists know what they are talking about.
     
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    It's complicated

    HMAS Jervis Bay

    This pronunciation is preferred by the RAN. See also Jervis Bay, NSW JAH-vuhs

    Jervis Bay

    NSW. Jervis Bay is named after the 18th century admiral, Sir John Jervis. The BBC Pronouncing Dictionary states clearly that [JUR-vuhs] is the appropriate pronunciation for his name. JUR-vuhs (UR as in 'fur')
     
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  19. Moondog55

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    Not even close. It's locally pronounced "Wooster Sheeer", just like my dear old dad used to say it. But English is a funny language, like Cholmondley being pronounced Chumbly or Chum-lee
     
  20. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    Or Aloysius = Aluwishus
     
  21. gareth_oau

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    I suspect it depends on what side of the street you were born
     
  22. OlCol

    OlCol Hard Yards

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    I agree with moondog. Its Wooster Sheeer. It's also WOOSTER sauce. As for county names ending in "shire" all are pronounced as SHEEER.
    Birmingham, buckingham etc the "ham" is pronounced as EM.
    Gone a bit off topic.
     
  23. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    sheer or just a short shu?
     
  24. gareth_oau

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    Well too bad if you agree.

    I was born in Darbishu. not derbeesheer

    You were just born on the wrong side of the road obviously
     
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  25. gareth_oau

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    or




    toss your coin
     
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  26. OlCol

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    I would say Darbisheer. But we both know that in the UK, 20 miles away is like being in a different country when it comes to dialect.
    I suppose English is a dynamic language and it will continue to change. Who cares how it is spoken as long as its understood.
     
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    UK is loaded with names pronounced quite differently to what you'd expect from the written form. Whole country is one big insider joke, all designed to expose and embarrass newcomers.

    For instance, Keswick up in Coombria is pronounced 'kezzick'. But plenty other place names ending in '-wick' pronounce the 'w'.

    I guess this just follows general use English where there are few rules and many exceptions in pronunciation. And of course the haphazard spelling conventions give few clues. Whereas some languages like Spanish have consistent sounds for each vowel and even provide punctuation to show which syllable of a word is to receive emphasis.
     
  28. southpaw

    southpaw One of Us Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    When I lived in Ottawa, we hosted Christmas drinks for people I worked with. After making a dash to the LCBO for extra booze, I walked in and said to my wife: “there’s heaps of grog still in the boot”
    One of my Canadian colleagues within earshot said - I know we speak the same language but I didn’t understand a single word you just said.
     
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    You label yourself as a tourist if you call Alexandra anything but 'Alex' or Eildon 'The Weir'
     
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    Neddy Hard Yards

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    I think we've veered into the realm of shibboleths now
     
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    I've got a simple one next door or next beach down as it were that get's messed up be every tourist that hits the coast and half the Gold Coast population.

    "Tugun". Ok folks give me your phonetic version of this?
     
  32. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    nope....can ai di aa
     
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    Always knew it as ...Tew gun.
     
  34. crackson

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    Pronunciation is one thing, but all hosers know that Canada is spelt as follows:
    C, eh. N, eh. D, eh.
     
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    A bit further off topic but I was in a pub somewhere in Englands sunny South and I ordered a Scotch and Soda with lots of ice. I got a big glass mug with some cloudy liquid in it and a strange look, I had a taste and they had poured me a scotch and cider on the rocks
     
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    Give that man a cigar.
     
  38. LMB

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    Reminds me of my Lemon, Lime and Bitters in Cork. I was driving, and that was my go to driving drink at a pub - never even considered it was a peculiarly Australian drink.
    I received a glass of lemonade, a slice of lime on a plate and a pint LOL
     
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    Beauchamps -> Beechams

    Some old maps of Hotham runs show the latter rather than the former, showing the British pronunciation was once in use (never hear it said that way now).

    Of course it is HOT-ham to those in the know.
     
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    I believe there is a town in the US called Gloucester that the locals actually pronounce as Glow-cest-er.

    I can't speak for Spanish, but studying Italian, I was a little surprised to learn how much of a constructed language Modern Italian is, and how recently it was "created". As such they were able standardize the spelling. It often has very little to do with the language spoken in the various kingdoms that preceded modern Italy (which can have more in common with French/German/Catalan etc).

    Another fun fact, I understand that the Korean writing system was designed from the ground up relatively recently and is extremely logical and phonetic, and it was even intended that the letters resemble the shape your mouth and tongue should make to produce the sound, so reading could be more easily taught to the masses. People who study linguistics love it and geek out over it.
     
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    Everest is a good one. Common usage means we're probably saying it right, but the guy who it was named after actually pronounced his surname as eve-rest
     
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    It is like Cairo, where the Ohio meets the Mississippi. Cheerfully pronounced Kay-roe
     
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    Well they are ’murkuns. What would you expect? LOL

    They seem to struggle when discussing the pacifics of nucular energy
     
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    Aint just the murkuns! Here in the WA mines people get pacific all the time. Especially when talking about renumeration. And no one can spell cummulative.
     
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    Its difficult to remain professional and not chuckle at your colleagues LOL
     
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    Merkins?
     
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    With a flashlight? LOL