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Question Qantas ski carriage policy & double skibags (Japan)

Discussion in 'Flights' started by Shoey, Jan 12, 2020.

  1. Shoey

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    I just want to ask whether members have had success or issues with taking a double ski bag on Qantas (to Japan)? On their Sports Equipment policy page, it says

    "Snow ski or snowboard
    Snow skis and snowboards must be protected in a ski bag. If the snow skiing equipment and your checked bags exceed your checked baggage allowance, airport excess baggage rates apply.


    No more than one pair of skis, one pair of stocks/poles and one pair of ski boots is permitted per passenger."


    Which is fine, but when I confirmed on a chat whether my wife & I can put our skis into a double ski bag together, here is what the response we got. So, it seems to be a tighter constraint than what was said on the main page:

    "Shiu
    at 20:21, Jan 11:
    I have 2 passengers with ski equipment.
    Since baggage allowance is is 1 ski per passenger,
    can I confirm that both our skis can be in the same bag? (i.e. 2 passengers, 2 skis, 1 bag)

    Eve
    at 20:27, Jan 11:
    Thank you for your patience. For this reference ******. Skis must be on a separate bag. No more than one pair of skis, one pair of stocks/poles and one pair of ski boots is permitted per passenger.

    Shiu
    at 20:27, Jan 11:
    I see, so 1 pair per passenger but each pair must be in its own bag?

    Eve
    at 20:28, Jan 11:
    Yes that is correct.

    Shiu
    at 20:28, Jan 11:
    or do you mean a ski bag separate from other luggage

    Eve
    at 20:29, Jan 11:
    Each ski bag must be on a separate baggage.

    Shiu
    at 20:29, Jan 11:
    so 2 passenger, 2 ski in 1 bag = Not OK

    Eve
    at 20:31, Jan 11:
    Yes that is correct. Each passenger must have one pair of ski in 1 bag."
     
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  2. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never had a problem. Always double bags. Just keep under the limits. Sounds like Eve is trying to interpret something she doesn’t understand.
     
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  3. Crispy013

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    That is just rules for the sake of rules. In my experience, weight has been the underlying criteria. As long as it’s under your allowable weight, then size is generally not much of an issue. And never has anyone opened my bag to check how many sets of boards/skis are in there.
     
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    This. But I have had my ski bag measured by Air Fiji and had to pay a large fee. Every other airline, just weight.
     
  5. Shoey

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    Awesome! Would be quite a big hassle if we had to seprately pack them :)
     
  6. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    Qantas in my experience has never been an issue. Maybe coming out of Japan, because well - rules, I’ve encountered the infamous ruler. But never had to pay extra.
     
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    I was asked coming back from Japan once. I just said “yes 1 ski” and they never checked. Then the little Japanese lady came and carried my bag containing mine and 2 kids skis across to oversize LOL
     
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    You will have no problem, as mentioned, stick to your 23kg.
    Our fam of 4 have 2 ski bags, 1 being a single and 3 skis in the double bag. Have done 2 Japan trips and 1Canada trip, all good.
     
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    Just flew Qantas into Tokyo a couple of days ago with 4 skis in the one bag. No one gave it a second look at the counter even thou it came in at 22.5 kg.
     
  10. chrisj

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    How does all this gel with Qantas's stipulation that no single item of checked baggage can exceed 158cm (L+D+H)?
     
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    Must be exemptions for sporting equipment.
     
  12. chicski

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    BTW it says one pair per passenger, not per bag. I still got away with it last trip, when my son was only travelling part way with us and I took his gear over. My daughter also took both board and skis. So we checked in 4 sets of gear in 2 bags for 2 of us.

     
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  13. Crispy013

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    I re-read my baggage entitlements for my upcoming flight with Q....it says 30kg, but only 1 piece o_O. Hope there is no dramas with my snowboard bag and small suitcase which will be less than 30kg....one can only hope commonsense prevails.
     
  14. Donzah

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    I had dramas with QF.
    Domestic in a international ticket.
     
  15. chrisj

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    I'm booked to Japan with Qantas (economy) and there is no stipulation on number of articles. Is there a domestic leg to your flight?
     
  16. Crispy013

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    Dramas on the domestic leg?
     
  17. Donzah

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    Yes.
    23kg weight limit.
    I was 23.6
     
  18. Crispy013

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    I get this nice little graphic on my booking
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Donzah

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    I was a FF ticket domestic YSSY to OOL.
    Then 25kgs on JQ to NRT.

    They DGAF
     
  21. chicski

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    JQ. There’s your answer.
     
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  22. chrisj

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    That's strange. I have a limit of one item specified on the domestic leg of my trip, but not on the international one.



     
  23. Donzah

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    Yeah. Though I had 25kgs on jq.
     
  24. chrisj

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    Geez, I have a mate who flew Jetstar SYD to NRT via OOL last year. They charged him excess baggage for his skis for the OOL leg and again for the NRT leg, even though it was on one ticket. Same on the return journey.
     
  25. Ozgirl

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    I have never had an issue. YK and I used to have a bag each and then two ski's in a douche bag.

    I believe those rules are from the old days , before baggage was such an issue. You used to get spring goods as an extra weight.

    We have flown, Qantas internationally, and JAL and Jetstar Japan.

    I know a lot of people who take two boards. They also have never had an issue.
     
  26. Donzah

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    Don't get me started on the carry-on excess Shit people take.
    Yesterday a woman had a solid wheely.
    Backpack.
    Handbag
    Duty free.

    Took up all of the bin above our seat.
     
  27. Ozgirl

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    Unfortunately she is a aloud.

    I typically have a wheelie and a camera bad.

    And duty free is an additional aloud on top of you carry on allowance.

    Could have been a rice cooker!
     
  28. Donzah

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    Ideally I have a passport wallet, headphones and my phone.
    I hate carry on.
     
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  29. Ozgirl

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    But Ski boots...

    And not putting my DSLR in checked...

    Also person above may not have checked a bag.

    My 40 something (so not the stereo type) friend and her husband frequently travel OS with carry on only.
     
  30. chrisj

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    Me too, but this time I am carrying ski boots which alone come to 7.3kg including my carry-on bag (big feet). Doable with JAL or Air Canada with their more generous carry-on allowances, but not with Qantas with its measly 7kg.
     
  31. chicski

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    I try and do everything light. Carry on necessities, which includes a change of clothes on long haul, one small backpack. Domestically I’m often carry on only.
     
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    I have never been stopped with my ski boots on qantas.

    I was on Cathay they didn't care about the overall weight and insisted I carry them on out of the main carry on bag. and not have them in the bag in the overhead locker. yeah nah... as soon as i was on the bridge they went back in.
     
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  33. chrisj

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    So you just carry your boots on unbagged as part of your carry-on allowance?
     
  34. buckwheat

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    I've done exactly that on every trip I've been on and never been pulled up
     
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  35. Ozgirl

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    I did.

    Until the bridge and out of sight of gate.

    Then I just shoved them back in the bag
     
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  36. Shoey

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    Interesting. Our setup always been (b4 this Qantas false alarm) a double ski bag with 2 pairs & poles, and padded with clothes because I'm the one carrying the skibag and don't want it too heavy :) Then my wife's check-in suitcase will have 2 pairs of boots & her clothes, and then we have a carry on for 2 helmets & goggles and the other carry on for electronics.

    Though I have seen people just clip their helments to their backpacks.

    From what I read above it looks like we were too conservative :) Especially coming back from Japan it would be nice to have room to bring back all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff.
     
  37. chicski

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    When I first went to Japan it was 20kg limit. I had all my gear in a double skibag and came in under. Because you really don’t need many non-ski clothes on a ski trip!
     
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    I think the confusion arises because of the piece concept which applies to N. A. In this case, you can count a pair of skis, plus a pair of boots, plus a pair of poles as ONE piece. The application of this rule means that only one pair of skis can be in a bag. You can still have more than one pair in your ski bag, but then you can't add your boots as well and still have them counted as a single piece. For anywhere else, you can have as many bags as you like, as long as none of them exceed the maximum weight (32kg) and you are under the total allowance.
     
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    Huh?

    We have had two pairs of skis two pairs of pools and my ski boots in one douche bag.

    Honestly the point is no one has ever asked anyone to open a ski bag to check what’s in there.
     
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    Got hit for oversized for the first time ever last week☹️
    China Eastern to Paris , $250 for ski bag. Thankfully we decided to combine MrsBoof’s board with my skis and only got hit for the one bag. Normally we both have our own bags.
     
  41. Beerman

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    That’s for standard baggage/suitcases. Golf clubs, bikes in boxes and ski gear fall under sports equipment, so are accepted as larger dimensioned items. Somewhere in their really really fine print, should be wording along these lines.
     
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    The confusion also arises because both Qantas and Virgin have gone to a piece (1 for no status economy) and weight limit on domestic flights. It’s crazy. On domestic, you can have 2 x 10kg bags and you are charged. Where as 1 x 20kg and you are fine. International you could have 10 x 2kg bags no issue!
     
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    Interpretations have been the same forever.

    It's all about the weight....Keep that under control and all is good.
     
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    A few years ago my husband and I were checking a double ski bag in at Canberra.
    We were asked if the bag contained 2 pairs of skis to which we replied 'yes'. The check in agent asked again if the bag contained 2 pairs and again we said 'yes'. When she asked a third time I said 'no' with a questioning look and she immediately checked the bag in!!! Go figure.

    We now travel with single ski bags and combine them in one when we arrive to send via Takkyubin.
     
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    Also Canberra people are weird...
     
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  48. Ozgirl

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    Pfft, you're a blow in! Your already planning your exit strategy!
     
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    However, I have been flying from Canberra airport for the past 13 years with multiple skis/snowboards in a single bag. Only issue was a “heavy” fee a couple of years back, and I’d given up trying to avoid that and knew it was coming.
     
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    Oops - Qantas