Travel Life QT, Mt Hutt, Falls???

Best field for Intermediate Skier (mostly groomers but likes to play around the edges)?

  • Falls Creek

    Votes: 4 57.1%
  • Queenstown

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Mt Hutt

    Votes: 1 14.3%

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BMWRX

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Now that our trip to Hakuba is disappearing into the past, we are starting to get our next ski trip sorted for this coming southern winter.

We have done QT/Wanaka three times now and I suspect that we're getting to the point where those fields are a bit old hat (well, Coronet anyway, and I've lapped Cardies a million times). So we're contemplating Mt Hutt, but don't know a great deal about it, other than it has periods where it gets shut due to weather and it's a less 'touristy' option than QT.

However, with the current travelling climate, we may stay domestic and head to Falls. The same questions arise, as we don't know a huge deal about it, other than last year it had bulk snow and all who went there had a hell of a time.

I guess my question would be, for those who usually head over the ditch in winter, is there likely to be a push to Australian fields this year, in light of travel restrictions, etc an unknown entity (although winter is a while away yet)? And how does Falls compare to Cardies/Remarks/etc? I like to rip down the groomers and have a bit of fun in the softer stuff when the mood takes me, while my partner is now just dipping her toes into blue runs.
 

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Shutt, Concrete and Unremarkables all better than Flat Creek (vertical 683, 462, 357, ~200 metres respectively).

Accom in Falls stupid expensive.
 
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Falls is expensive but better value than Buller or Hotham, unless you want to share a room in a lodge.
As for the OP's question, steeper terrain in the summit/maze area might hit the spot in good conditions, while the progression of moderate Inter terrain in Sun Valley, from Highway, through Main to Powderkeg, then Scotts and Ruined is more suitable for a developing skier than blues at Hotham, for example. Then there's the side country and out of resort touring. Ok, I'm a Falls fan.
 

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I have a soft spot for Mt Hutt. I can admit have been a little fortunate with conditions when visiting.

The central blue run at Mt Hutt down the middle of the bowl (Huber's Run?) is a ripper with fresh corduroy and sharp edges, and may be one of the best groomers in the southern hemisphere? Comparable to the Supertrail at Thredbo. Nothing else quite in the same league for Aus or the South Island. (Ruapehu I'm sure has some big runs too, can't speak for it though)

Unfortunately your options run out a bit after that unless you're interested in off-piste black diamond runs. This is the situation with a few of the Canterbury fields - they are usually in a big bowl, with a single high-intermediate route down the middle, and advanced runs converging on it from the sides of the bowl. Not much for beginners, as they tend to be on the sides of actual mountains.

So really I'm saying Falls might be the more comprehensive option honestly. The only way I see NZ being a more memorable trip, is as a Canterbury road trip adventure. Ohau, Roundhill, Dobson, Hutt, Porters, Cheeseman. Maybe Rainbow?
 

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Stating the obvious, but Queenstown is a town not a ski field. It will be mostly flat with bitumen groomers. The ski field you are probably looking for though would be Cardrona.
 

BMWRX

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Stating the obvious, but Queenstown is a town not a ski field. It will be mostly flat with bitumen groomers. The ski field you are probably looking for though would be Cardrona.
Maybe that's why I've grown tired of it. Not enough pitch on the runs!

I've done Cardies to death. It's a great field and run well but at the end of the last trip there I was getting a bit over it. We tend to do Cardies the most when staying in Queenstown. We go to Remarkables or Coronet to break things up but we've never enjoyed them (particularly Coronet last year when it was an ice rink).
 

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Personally, in light of the current 14 day isolation restrictions on arrival and low numbers of people travelling in the near future I would be (and am) watching and waiting in regards to NZ. (been going annually for 20 + years). Should be some good specials all going good with Coronz. How long do you normally go for and what time of season? if your thinking OZ for intermediate groomers etc., you can 't go past Perisher IMO (best bet due to altitude, as well as size) Edit: or if conditions are prime (cold, low freeze levels and heaps of snow) then Thredbo.
 
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BMWRX

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So ive been to coronet once, last year, boot deep, -8, sun out, no wind. Dunno what you are talking about! :)
You must have gone after we did (mid/end July). It was horrible and there was talk of shutting it down due to lack of snow. It dumped down the week after we left (which seems to be a pattern).

How long do you normally go for and what time of season? if your thinking OZ for intermediate groomers etc., you can 't go past Perisher IMO (best bet due to altitude, as well as size) Edit: or if conditions are prime (cold, low freeze levels and heaps of snow) then Thredbo.
We used to go mid-August but didn't like double digit temperatures and slush in the afternoons, so started going mid to late July and then ran into lack of snow and heaps of ice. We've just been a bit unlucky recently I suppose, but even a bad ski trip beats a good day at work.
 
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Yeah we just totally scored, august 4-11 i think. Completely assed it. Flew into QT, snow at lake level. First day skiing coronet, deep dry fresh. 2 days later remarks, less deep, but very dry. Over to cardrona, aussie hard pack / corn day, still no wind. Last day cardrona, new snow but after skiing some freshies they shut due to vis but we know we just got lucky
 

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So ive been to coronet once, last year, boot deep, -8, sun out, no wind. Dunno what you are talking about! :)

That's the thing with NZ though, so frustratingly variable, for everyone who experienced a certain field as a patchy ice rink in zero visibility with mediocre facilities, someone else experienced it dry and boot deep on a bluebird day with mates!
 
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Zimbooo

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You must have gone after we did (mid/end July). It was horrible and there was talk of shutting it down due to lack of snow. It dumped down the week after we left (which seems to be a pattern).


We used to go mid-August but didn't like double digit temperatures and slush in the afternoons, so started going mid to late July and then ran into lack of snow and heaps of ice. We've just been a bit unlucky recently I suppose, but even a bad ski trip beats a good day at work.
Yep, it's hit or miss each year. August is normally a good bet, even early September for the corn harvest or later season snow systems with no crowds. I too have experienced low snow years where Canterbury hills had little snow and the southern lakes had fantastic snow and vice versa. For many years we had the kids in tow so always booked 2 weeks months in advance, so just took what came our way. However now, seeing they have finished schooling and doing there own things, we play it by ear and go if the season is going along well. Edit: Have you been to Perisher before?
 

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With where the world is at the moment, I'm not holding out hope that I'll be able to fly into NZ within the next four/five months, so my question may be a moot point. However, will Victoria be likely to allow the fields to be opened this season, as I believe that restrictions on movements may last six to twelve months to fully get on top of the virus?

I kitted up strong at the Snow Central sale on the weekend (Underwood store closing down). It looks like my new goggles, pants and poles won't get a run until the northern winter (assuming they will be open by then).
 

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With where the world is at the moment, I'm not holding out hope that I'll be able to fly into NZ within the next four/five months, so my question may be a moot point. However, will Victoria be likely to allow the fields to be opened this season, as I believe that restrictions on movements may last six to twelve months to fully get on top of the virus?

I kitted up strong at the Snow Central sale on the weekend (Underwood store closing down). It looks like my new goggles, pants and poles won't get a run until the northern winter (assuming they will be open by then).
Stuck in Qld indefinitely........beautiful one day, perfect the next, burb!
 

BMWRX

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If things start to wind back from the world we live in, I still can't see international travel being permitted until next year. With that in mind and the impact that the fires and now the social isolation procedures are having on local businesses, it makes sense to my partner and I that we stay domestic this year for our ski trip. So, we're now digging into the best options for Perisher/Thredbo.
 

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That's the thing with NZ though, so frustratingly variable, for everyone who experienced a certain field as a patchy ice rink in zero visibility with mediocre facilities, someone else experienced it dry and boot deep on a bluebird day with mates!
Except at Mt Ruapehu, where for every TEN who experienced a certain field as a patchy ice rink in zero visibility ....., someone else experienced it dry and boot deep on a bluebird day with mates!

But wow, when you are that someone, you never forget it! :)
 

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I'd say falls creek is better than Hutt after having both as a local mountain for a number of years. Hutt gets crazy busy, too busy. Don't get me wrong on its day it can be amazing but it really gets hit hard with any adverse weather. Falls has way more aspects and tree runs to be able to enjoy white out days. Beginner runs are also limited at Hutt. You have a beginner's carpet and one lovely green. The nice easy blue from the same lift is a bottle neck from all the more advanced runs so is either intimidating or moguls due to the amount of traffic. Combining the remarks and coronet in Queenstown is a great option, offers way more than Falls Creek other than on snow accomodation.
 

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Perisher is like 4 Falls Creeks linked together. It’s an intermediate playground with some fun side adventures.

Am guessing you’re coming from Melbourne so that makes it a slightly longer trip, but you’d be allowing a day of travel each end for an NZ trip, so Perisher would be no different.
 

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Perisher is like 4 Falls Creeks linked together. It’s an intermediate playground with some fun side adventures.

Am guessing you’re coming from Melbourne so that makes it a slightly longer trip, but you’d be allowing a day of travel each end for an NZ trip, so Perisher would be no different.
Coming from Brisbane
 
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