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Advice needed Recommendations - mid-upper-end helmets?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by snowgum, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us

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    Howdy,

    My Giro G10 helmet is about 14 years old and while it 'works' fine, it's looking a little banged up down the sides - possibly more from travel than skiing (~8-10 days p.a).

    So can anyone recommend a good mid-upper end helmet (lift skiing, possibly v v occasionally off pistes/BC), ideally with MIPS and definitely great adjustable ventilation ( I heat up easily!)

    Ideally something that fits the older (slightly smaller) Oakley Airbrakes and something with a bit of a peak for sun/snow protection? Easily removable liners and ear protection?

    Music integration or GoPro attachment isn't important.

    I dislike the ventless (skateboard) helmet look!

    I was thinking of:
    - Smith Vantage - seems to have everything and fitted ok on a quick test;
    - Giro Range - ditto, great fit & padding but possibly less ventilation;
    - Maybe Anon Prime - has similar looks & features to Smith but haven't seen in shops yet.
    - or the 'one-down' versions of these.
    - or maybe a Soloman, Oakley? (I know less about these brands in helmets).

    Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
    SG. (;-)
     
  2. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    I bought a Smith MIPS helmet on a huge discount from Level 9 earlier this year. Check out the local end of season sales. If you find nothing suitable, the NH Black Friday sales aren't far away.
     
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  3. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    I should add, I have Smith goggles so went looking for a Smith helmet for maximum compatibility. I haven't actually used the new helmet yet, I stuck with my 2yo non-MIPS Smith helmet as it is extremely well ventilated and most days I skied this year I needed all the vents open. I can vouch for the ventilation in the top of the line Smith helmets.
     
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    Check out the Giro Neo MIPS - pretty much the current model of your current helmet.
     
  5. snowgum

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    Thanks Marty, yes they look and feel good (well the Vantage & Variance do).

    (BTW, I think I've seen your ski reviews on a NH site perhaps? How many MMcS can there be?). (;-)
     
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  6. snowgum

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    Thanks CM, will do. G10 has been a goodie.
     
  7. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    The world is only big enough for one ;)
     
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    I reckon! The only other Snowgum AFAIK is a store & no relation! (;-)
     
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    I purchased the Giro Range MIPS and its incredibly lightweight and comfortable.

    It has a 2 piece outer shell that adjusts to fit your head, rather than the inner cradle, so its a better fit (especially if you have an odd head), and its also much smaller on your head so you don't look like a lollypop
     
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    Good to know. Yes I tried one on and it was super comfy - if a bit unusual initially. Very 'cradly' around the back and very cushioned too.

    Would you say it has good/v good ventilation?
    Fwiw: After overall comfort, heat comfort /ventilation is my 'deal breaker'.
     
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    ventilation is very good. As I shave my head, I also wear a skull cap or bandana under it when the temps are very cold
     
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    Cheers G.O sounds like a worthy competitor to the Smith Vantage - about the same $ too!

    (I add a mid-weight Aldi fleece beanie to my G10 on the coldest days but in normal Vic winter temps on lifts ~ say -2 to 5 c - it's generally fine as is - with vent in a variety of positions.)
     
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  13. Dumphfish

    Dumphfish Hard Yards

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    I've got a Pret helmet. Like it, simple, low profile. Good kit. Worth getting MIPS.
     
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    ALDI, they all come out of a similar factory and conform to the same safety standards.
     
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    To be honest I don’t think there are bad helmets. I’m using POC at the moment, had a couple of Smith’s before that, a Boeri before that, and started with a Giro. They all fit and did the job.

    In terms of aesthetics maybe the Smith was best because of its low profile (the Holt, essentially the base model) but I’m happy with my POCs as well, comfy. MIPs. Just a little more bubble headed.
     
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  16. snowgum

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    Cheers, yes need to try some on with my goggles!
     
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    Can I ask Annabuzzy what is it you do to your helmets that you get through so many of them? Not really a bit of kit that wears out unless you take a good head shot (I've split a MTB helmet before in a my head v a tree). Maybe aerial skiing isn't for you? :whistle:
     
  18. TheFake

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    I've got a Vantage and have been super stoked with it. I really love how much ventilation you can get for spring skiing, yet you can seal it up for storms.
     
  19. snowgum

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    Cheers TF, it seems to set the standard for venting / climate control.

    I have read though that one may need to upsize for a correct fit with Smith. This isn't a big issue if 'one' likes their XL in white or black! (;-)
     
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    I would probably agree re up-sizing. IIRC my head measured ~60cms, a large is 59-63 and it can be a bit tight at times (especially once you add a clava + buff).
     
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    I find overseas travel dings up helmets a bit, the same features that make them light and comfortable also make them prone to looking pretty ratty after a couple of years.
     
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    Ha ha!!

    Giro was just old. I got that circa 1999. It was huge. The Boeri lost its ear pieces. The Smith got covered in stains and I wanted MIPS (I gave the second away - long story). Now the POC. They all had a fair innings. Probably 6 years each.
     
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    Another vote for Smith Vantage. Easy to slide vents open/close and boa adjustment at back of helmet makes it simple to adjust tightness. Works well with my Smith goggles.
     
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  25. davec1

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    I picked up a 2018 Vantage from Auski in August for $210 (being last seasons stock).

    The ventilation is excellent, but I overheat pretty easily, so that was a key factor in my decision.

    I ride motorbikes a lot and learned early that the most critical element with helmets is the fit, as different brands and models suit individual head shapes. The higher spec helmets usually are just lighter and offer more ventilation. You can pay an awful lot for these two attributes.

    With the Vantage, is use Anon and Spy goggles, after 13 days of use they have been perfect. No issues at all so far.
     
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    Currently using smith vantage and it’s very good. Comfortable and good goggle compatibility.. ( I’m using poc goggles as they fit my prescription inserts) .
    Looking at the smith quantum - a little more pricey but if it’s better brain protection, what price safety?
    Does anyone have any experience with the quantum?
     
  27. snowgum

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    That's a great price in late 2019 $s ~ half the cost of the 2019 Model.

    I note if you want a bargain helmet - you need to 'get' a small head. Ls & XLs are mostly sold before EOS specials appear?
     
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    A helmet that fits your head and fits your goggles.
     
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    davec1 Hard Yards Ski Pass: Gold

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    I just had a look at the receipt, it was actually a 2019 model. Lucky timing I suppose. Purchased 8 August.

     
  30. Marty_McSly

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    I got my XL MIPS helmet in a pretty bright blue. But then my previous non-MIPS Vantage XL that I bought in Sun Peaks was out of stock in every colour except black and white.

    Timing is everything.
     
  31. Marty_McSly

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    I run hot. I suspect the OP may too. Short of a howling gale or -20° temps, I use a merino skull cap that's about liner weight as my helmet liner.
     
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    Not MIPS.

    Edit: I should clarify. I've found the Aldi helmet and goggles combo perfectly adequate for Australian conditions, where I just sweat. However in a Canadian February, the Aldi goggles fog up then freeze over. In a warming Canadian March they just fog up big time. For me. As noted above, I run hot.

    I've found the Smith Vantage helmet to be a one size fits all conditions solution. I love it.
     
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    I've used an ALDI helmet for 3 years across AUS and Japan including -15c in Hokkaido.
    I wouldn't purchase or trust ALDI goggles (unless as a last resort).
     
  34. Marty_McSly

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    I tried the Smith goggles with Aldi helmet in Canada. -16. Didn't work for me. Smith goggles with the Smith helmet were perfect.

    YMMV.

    When I say I run hot, I really mean it.
     
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    Sounds a lot like me then!! I wonder how my old Oakley Airbrake compares with Smith goggles?

    (The newer Airbrakes look a lot bigger - taller - than mine - smaller would help you'd think?)
     
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    TBH I can't remember which goggles I have. I need to pull them out and have a look. They are a fair bit taller than my old Aldi goggles, and give me much more peripheral vision.
     
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    I got a Smith Vantage MIPS helmet this season, I think it's the best helmet I've owned. It fits nicely with my Oakley Flight Deck goggles and has good venting for the warmer days. No problems recommending the helmet.
     
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    Get whichever one fits the best.
    Smith Vantage works really well with my melon.
     
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    Try walking
     
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    Any advice on sunglasses to ski with, keep the wind out, stay on head. Goggles are a tad overkill on many Oz sunshine days.
     
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    Sounds promising? I reckon Flight Deck are similar similar in size to the (my) old Airbrakes. Cheers aazz.
     
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    I've always used Bolle as their DFOs outlets have mostly disappeared and hence their 'bargains' too.

    But I looked at some ski-specific Oakleys recently and they had potential - had the Prizm lense and decent coverage (height and width). Not cheap ~ $250 rep & $200 on special.

    Good to try with your helmet - sounds familiar? I find the arms of some sunnies flare out at the ends. This puts pressure on one's head so nice smooth comfy arms are essential as long as they're strong as well.
     
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    Shimano have an amazing range of glasses for sports.

    Low light, dark and clear lenses are usually included and photochromatics are around too.
     
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    Howdy crackson, I assume Shimano are best found in bike shops? Do they make it into ski & outdoor outlets?
     
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    My eyes go all tearing up if I ski in sunnies, unless I ski at a moderate pace. I used to ski in sunnies while telemarking
     
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    I’m using oakley prizm lenses in my sunnies and they are fantastic
     
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    I was always a brand purchaser and Smith sunnies were my go to but they hard to find since Luxottica dominated the market and only sells their brands through their retail arms.

    Now I buy $30 Cancer Council sunnies and they are great. Really well made, great lenses and super durable. Every bit as good as the major brands, if not better than most.
     
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    Helmets do a good job at protecting against lacerations and skull fractures. Helmets don't do much to protect your brain and only offer any real protection for the most traumatic brain injuries (their efficacy for preventing that type of injury is not well established)

    The standard (EN 1077) specifies an impact force of 250g from a 1.5m drop with a 5 kg weight onto a flat surface. Concussions start with an impact force of 50g.
     
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    Ie. Dont hit stuff with head or VV?