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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Boutros, Sep 28, 2017.
Why do you need to access CP?
Why access anywhere for recreation? To recreate! Why do people go there any season?
It offers a distinctly different experience to other access points.
If they can build a ski tube tunnel under the mountain then what is it with clearing some snow on the C.P. road?. The Snowy Mtn.s Hydro electricity infrastructure opened up this area for ski tourism. Since then such gargantuan public works projects are seldom contemplated or enacted.
When Perisher takes over CP it will be connected by a hyperloop
And the shit farms by hyperpoop!!
Ah. So you want to get to Charlottes.
It's not a lift, it's a mad science experiment (detachable express poma!?) But yes, in my vision the road is cleared only to the CP "driveway" turnoff and then down that to the village. Parking in CP village would also be permitted out of season.
Same as I want to get to DHG, or Bondi Beach, or Tathra, or Royal NP.
I recreate. Your want/ need argument is boring.
They make a road management decision to expend resources to open the road prior to a natural snowmelt, for recreation. There's no actual operational need to get to the turning circle. I just want them to focus effort to do it earlier. I'm well, well across what planning and funding impacts there are.
You dont really want to go to Bondi do you?
Stop interrogating my examples with reality!!
The parking there is off the chain!
Yep. You want to get there earlier, and think that your wants should be their priority. RMS probably disagree.
I reckon I have a fair handle on their priorities. What I reckon is they need to be appraised more fully of their customers' expectations re access.
Why is your date requiring funds expenditures more valid than mine? As I said, a decision has been made to invest in opening the road for recreation. There's no reason that's the right investment other than that's the investment effort they have always used.
Anyway, you know how sometimes you've had examples on the forum where you are pretty sure you have the mettle of something because you have a much, much, much more engaged experience and background with something than some other folks your are discussing an issue with? Ponder if I might be in that position now.
And timing is in their discretion.
In other words-
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor,
No issue with advising them of changing customer expectations.
That's called being responsive. I'm not proposing they undertake a new avenue of work. It's a change in effort in the existing spend.
You make me laugh a lot Legs, but I sometimes think you'd argue with a street sign.
If nothing else, the regulars pay an annual access fee, it's only reasonable to demand the road be open the day the lifts close. KNP should also be on the case!
Except tha bastards didn't really listen!!!
I used to pay with bark , then complain the meters were broken.
They cottoned on to that idea. Sending a $90 fine.
A letter to waverly council , loosely based on the premise that being from wollongong, we were unsure what these "parking machines " were . It appealed to their smugness.
KNP certainly encourage RMS, especially now KNP aren't responsible for paying!
I assume that RMS have a minion whose sole function is to monitor this forum.
Which is why I don't just complain about it here
I think in this circumstance it would be a road sign and not a street sign that would be quarreled with.
This thread just keeps on giving!
We need a cam to check on parking at Charlottes Pass TC.
A variable message sign would be my bet. They keep changing their mind!
And these fines are why Waverley council never delay clearing the snow off the road. So much revenue
Always clear to the synagogue.
And a fleet of clearing machines on standby damnit! Year Round!! Don't want access delayed in the future by a few little Aussie snowflakes
I agree. Over 400 posts about when a road might open. This is way more fun than the Thredbo parking issue. Love you guys.
Declaration: I have read every one of those 400 posts. I'm tragic.
Just wait till it melts naturally.
Toilets,Huts and now it's a road covered in a slick of snow .....what is going down in NSW?? Certainly a lot of fossil fuel being consumed so the Warriors can run a few hills??
That assumption is not totally ridiculous. Parks Victoria do look at what people say on Bushwalking dot com. I am quite sure of that esp. about the their numerous hare brained schemes to turn many of our Parks here in VIC. into Lego Land.
Just what our consultants were advising..."Lego Land"this could work !!
It's just a matter of constructing a business case that will support our new proposal.....
The Road to / from C.P. was closed on the day I went. I left the car at Spencer's creek car park and walked up to scout out the scene.There was Nice weather that day ! .
What’s with the bears and duck....?
Road open now?
YES, the road is now open but a shite load of snow has melted. It has gone from nearly complete cover in some places to join the dots according to my sources.
Cup weekend was hoping to squeeze in some turns, what do you rekon are the chances??
.IMO it 'll be ribbon running & Not worth it and it becomes very soft and slow by noon.
It is time to go bush walking and scout out some new BC XC routes in Green season!!!.
See You all on the skis in 2018 . Maybe the South Face of Mt. Bogong might have some black diamond kamikaze runs in a chute or two but the weather has been warm and no substantial further snow has fallen up there since Sept. 2017.
Soft! Drifting is fun! I skied on the 1st of Jan this year!
Yes I am soft and so is what is left of the snow.
Shouldn't laugh too much at NSW Steve. The Bogong High Plains Road is still closed and word yesterday is that it will not open until the second week of November. In comparison to CP there is very little snow to move. This road closure affects a lot of people as well. Big difference is we don't whinge about it every day.
It's not whinging, it's 'encouraging change'!!
It's a road to nowhere, so if no one says nuffin, nuffin gets done.
Oh when it opens ...I will look forward to shooting over into Shannonvale.
I hope to get to Big River Saddle in comming weeks to check on Picnic Tables and to wipper snip around that helipad a little.But I am not in a hurry to chainsaw a million fallen trees over that road just to get out there.
But I thought that the BHP Rd was dodgy in construction and the material under the bitumen needed to fully dry out otherwise it will crumble.
The rate that KNP charges per vehicle per day changed to the normal rate...Team Bears believe.......why don't KNP charge the higher rate till the Rd is open till Charlottes Pass to compensate for the snow clearing monies required.Winter rate was $29 compared to $17 in 2016??
@Rick Ross Da Boss
Doing the main range apprenticeship Melbourne Cup weekend 2006 - ummm I think there'll be slighty more this year
Sorry about the resolution...