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Shiga Kogen 2019/2020

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Hyst, Oct 13, 2019.

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  1. Sandy

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    @Heinz @Ramenman

    Removed lifts and now unused runs.
    The "newer" restaurant at Terakoya

    The run next to the double chair out of Terakoya(middle). Now not groomed or used now. ( but you can drop onto it from the cat track)


    Other lift at Terakoya, removed: (you can see where the lift was. People now climb up past the shrine on the left)


    Maruike:
    Runs Heinz thought might not be used:
    Two narrow ones through the trees.


    Notice tracks on both:

    Both used when there's more snow.

    Sun Valley:
    Heinz got a photo of this. The Single Chair was running 3 season ago, which I rode.


    More to come......
     
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    Yakebitaiyama:
    There's an old lift removed that serviced this run. It's roped off, so you need to duck the rope. It comes out onto the cat track out to Okushiga:


    There's also the old lift line in the same area.

    Yamanokami. Lift was taken out, and runs from top of Ichinose Diamond lift. Seen from Yakebitai, they even groomed it, so not sure why it's oob:




    Giant. The other lift ran higher up than the current lift. Seems to be a run higher up.

    The old Ropeway. They pulled it out about 7-8 years ago. It ran from Yamanoeki. The ropeway cars are still there, but used as a bar!! Here's the view from Yamanoeki, and you can see where the ropeway ran. Strangely, since Yamanoeki is the new bus terminal, it would have been useful to have a lift directly from there. Best way from Yamanoeki from the bus, is to traverse the flat section on skis/board to Giant, about 100m.

    Yamanoeki building on the right (where the Ropeway cars are). You can see a building int he distance, and the ropeway line thru the trees is just to the right. (green, taken thru the bus window)




    The Higashitateyama gondola is to the right
     
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  3. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That first one to the right of the lift looks even tighter than back when I skied it before. Trees grown back in. Don't know how often it would get skied.

    edit. looking back at my old pics now, it does appear narrower but not as much as I first though. It was still a fairly narrow entry when I skied it.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    The place bottom left was where we stopped for a hot chocolate & cheese cake. It looked like the only place open at the time.
     
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    Probably a bit in a normal season
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I guess so. These days a few trees won't stop too many people. Back then it was pretty much just us foreigners doing that.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Excellent, thanks. I have now copied a few into the equivalent 'then & now' posts in my TR.
     
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    Where am I?

    (nice moguls run!!)
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Olympic?
     
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    It the "Expert" Course at Okushigakogen, and the Pair No. 2 lift.
    We didn't go down there, because the Pair No. 3 lift was on wind hold.
    Last Friday, it was powder bumps, but on the weekend, it was steep groomed. Pity we didn't get over there.
     
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    Ah yes, I do recognise it now. We did actually ski it on one of the days after you left. It was groomed then. The forest trail was fun also.
     
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    There's lots of tree runs in that area too.
     
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    I suppose I had better pick up the batton. Flights and bus went well. I was the only pax on the shuttle from Nagano to Shiga Kogen. The driver asked me if I needed convenience store then brought my ski bag into the hotel on arrival. Oh those stairs at 1:15 am..... Luckily I found the lift as I am on the 4th floor. Slept terribly but got a few hours I guess.
    Woke to find breaky and 7 other guests all Japanese. Got kitted up and headed out to find firm fast groomers and bright sunshine. Skied family and diamond and found that I am super unfit but telemarking technically ok ish. Getting some heel lift on one foot though, does anyone know if there is a boot fitter up here? Went into the shop above hi happy and they shook their heads saying no telemark. Communication was not good enough to explain that you would fix it with some padding above the heel same as alpine, oh well.
    Snow started getting soft and choppy after lunch so I called it a day and came in for a nap.

    Some where in Ichinose Family looking at the view.

    Found my favourite Ume flavour in the vending machine, winning.
    Hoping to meet up with Sandy-san tomorrow.
     
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    Glad someone picked up the baton! Am pining for the hills (and the kitkats and the Pockys and the pizza at Altopianos!).
     
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    We have put a heavy burden on her shoulder - but she ist carrying it well.:thumbs:
    Some local might turn up as far as I remember.;)
     
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    Snowing a very nice, fine powder here at Shiga Kogen!!!
     
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    Yes it looked wet when I first woke up but has turned nicely to white fluffy stuff
     
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    I’m not sure if there is a boot fitter but the Lady on the desk at Head Station under chalet shiga has better English than I do so if there is one somewhere she’d be best to ask. Nord, which is in the shops opposite Shiga Grand (to the right of villa101 as you look at it) is the only other “technical” rental place in the village.
     
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    Thanks I will investigate further although it's not bothering me as much today in the softer snow
     
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    WooHoo!

    Had a great day skiing with Sandy-san (well three quarters of a day for me....) He took me down to Okushiga kogen and all parts in between there and Ichinose. We finished up up behind the hotels chasing freshies through the trees and sassa (can't remember the name of the area). My legs are absolutely wasted even though I probably only telemarked for about 1/4 of the day. No photos sorry but it did snow all day and does not look like letting up anytime soon.
     
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    It was great fun skiing with @almontyrat
     
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    Oku is good! My last trip was 3 weeks staying @ Okushiga Kogen Yamanouchi Hotel 2016. Wonderful tree lines.
     
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    Ok day three and my legs are sore, not looking forward to the two flights of stairs to breakfast then the three flights down to the locker room. Oh well might actually be a good warm up. Snowing lightly with some bigger flakes this morning. I wonder where @Sandy is going to lead me today.....
     
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    Stars and clear last night, but nice to see more flakes this morning!!
    However, I'm still expecting the cloud to burn off and clear. More good snow heading in early evening, with another low pressure trough in the Sea of Japan.
    There's actually lake effect cloud pushing across southern Japan:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Big fat flakes now!! :D
     
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    And sunny!!!
     
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    Gawd day three is hard but I am teleing more than yesterday.
    Definitely sun block required!
     
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    Sandy insisted I had to ride the egg gondola so he took me down the cat track from hell and I practiced my emergency skiing techniques like side slipping and the good old power plow.
    Me in a silver egg

    And @Sandy squished in opposite...

    I know where the good coffee place is now and the easy way to get there too so I will caffeine myself a bit later in the trip via Terakoya rather than that abysmal cat track.
     
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    It was sprinkling snow from about 3.30 until about 4pm.
    And in typical fashion for Japan, it was sunny!!

    I don't kn0w if you can see, but here's sun and the snow flakes!
     
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    Hi Sandy, would you consider the good conditions normal for this time of year at SK or a consequence of the late start. Or luck by being there at the right time.
     
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    I'd say it's a little better than usual, regarding snowfall this month.
    Aside from from this, the snow pack is less than usual because of January, and the lower areas are getting worn, but tonight and tomorrow's snow should fix that up!!
    I'd say that the long weekend, next weekend will probably be close to normal.

    It's not luck that I'm here... I've been targeting snowfall around weekends, and Shiga Kogen is optimal, because elevation avoids most rain events. And I've been deciding, sometimes the day before, to go.
     
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    And you were afraid of coming to late in the season - look like you have hit a good timing and the right location, even though you have to use heavy sunblocker. :thumbs:

    And you got this personal guide (parttime) chasing you around. :D Just watching the news - heavy snow coming in Nagano, hope you still can benefit from it.
     
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    Yes here for another 9 days so I will get tomorrows goodness, started snowing about 6 pm here and supposed to go all night. I smell freshies for breakfast.
     
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    At this stage I really can't like that - we are somehow confinede at home over here.

    And might even have a personal guide next week again? ;)
     
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    We actually found that track through the forest quite nice. On one run down we spotted a whole bunch of monkeys near the bottom station enjoying the sun.

    Later on though it wasn't so much fun, as there were hundreds of minions (seemed like) on it and were all over the place, blocking the trail. One one girl had also injured herself as was getting put in a sled.

    Did Sandy have his skis sticking out the top?
     
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    No they actually fitted one at a time in the rack, we both had to take them inside in the white gondola though. Mine are short enough to fit right inside but Sandy's were in the door.
    The trail today was very poor coverage with ice and dirt showing through so not enough snow to groom it. Lots of people although no minions as such. I am not a great skier so I really struggled but I made it down no falls so all good. That bottom station of the gondola is a hoot, skiing out on the little bridge thingy to get to it.
     
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    Snowing very nicely tight now.... :D
     
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    That cattrack finished my wife's skiing .That was four years ago.Skied with Sandy and Steve the day after.She refuses to ski any more and I can't change her mind .
     
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    Where are you staying Almontyrat? Three of my cousins arrived at Shiga today for five days I think.
     
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    At Villa Ichinose until the 25th. And yes that cat track is pretty damn scary considering it is supposed to be a green run. I'm sorry it spooked your wife so much. So much of skiing is about confidence especially for women.
     
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    I can't understand why they didn't carry the forest cat track down to near the gondola. Those switchback cat tracks on a regular slope make it worse.
     
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    No so much snow overnight. The main band looks like coming in abut 10am.
     
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    Arrived at 9am and was bucketing down until a lull, a wind change and now falling steadily.
    Falling at 4-5cm/hour between 9-11am

    Update. Wind's picked up gondolas have to be closed now.
     
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    I am learning all about teleing in freshies. Snow has been moderate to heavy since about 9 ish and it's really accumulating. Sandy videoed my efforts down a particularly deep slope. I narrowly avoided falling at his feet!
     
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    Some of the falling snow I've seen this morning, is the heaviest I've seen at Shiga Kogen.
    From 9am to about 2pm, the was around 20cm. And there were very few people around... Often nobody else there.
     
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    As Sandy says, it was pretty solid all day with just the odd lull. I snapped this in one such easing.

    It got way deeper after that, I was in up to my knees at one stage. @Sandy is a great guy and was so patient with me bumbling along. I really appreciate all his help and just the pleasure of his company.
     
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    Just bumped into @hotsaki three cousins who just arrived for their stay here at Villa Ichinose. The were a little bemused to be accosted by a strange woman in a yakata who knew their names..... it will be nice to have some fellow aussies to chat too over the next few days. Until now I have been the only Gaijin in sight.
     
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    You were doing ok..... :D
     
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