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Shiga Kogen 2019/2020

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Hyst, Oct 13, 2019.

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  1. Hyst

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    Lower elevations here in Hakuba too :(

    It should get better though... My local Shiga contacts are watching an event which makes it look like Jan 4 is the day. All I have to do is convince my wife she can do two checkouts and cleans that day :)
     
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    There is a new pizza and burger place opened up behind Japan Shiga Hotel (and I do mean behind and up the hill a bit).

    We’ve booked in for dinner on New Year’s Day so I’ll post about it here and in my trip report with the full scoop.
     
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    I guess you mean the Hotel Japan Shiga in Ichinose? (Not the Shiga Hotel at Sun Valley)
     
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    Yes. Sorry. My bad. Hotel Japan Shiga. Same one with the Nepalese place.
     
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    Yep. They look fine from the lift but I suspect it’s still very thin at the top of Super Giant Slalom. We didn’t get to see Olympic yesterday as the No. 1 Gondola was stopped when we were over there.

    Functionally, almost all of family, Tenne, and Tamamagahara are open too despite the green shading. I think Tenne is green because you can’t forge your own path between the trees just yet. Family is all open except the Black run to the left of the quad.
    We’ll report back on Terakoya and Higashitateyama later this morning!
     
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    looking a bit more interesting over the coming week...

    though a tad breezy
     
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    We call that Bitey Snow. It’s still good. Just a little stingy on the face. :D
     
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    Terakoya had three runs open with a few sections of dirt poking through. The ungroomed bit in the middle was roped off and had quite a bit of vegetation showing.



    Terrible pic from the GoPro but you get the idea.
    We didn’t make it to Higashitateyama so updates on there yet.
     
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    This is from snow-forecast.com, and is never accurate for snowfall totals. By morning, Shiga Kogen will probably have 30cm+ of new snow, not 12cm
     
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    Happy New Year to you from the old year.

    Foto from last 2019 sunset.

    ( to the Hokkaido gang as well. :D - if they dare to watch here!).
     
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    And still in 2019 but in an quite different state now :party:.
     
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    We are heading to Kumanoyu and Yokoteyama today. It looks like the connecting run from Kumanoyu through to Yokoteyama is open so we’ll start at Kumanoyu. There is maybe 2cm of snow on the road in Ichinose Diamond. Hopefully more fell in the upper slopes.
     
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    Snow is really starting to fall at Ichinose Diamond. Maybe another 1-2cm overnight but at least 1cm since I woke up.

     
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    :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: Oh, yes!
     
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    Looks like part of Giant is finally open :) https://www.shigakogen-ski.com/trail-map

    A question as a Shiga Kogen virgin: I've never skied powder (only just started on red runs), but loved skiing through about an inch of fresh snow in the glades between pistes at Niseko Annapuri at the start of the year. Any tips on where to find similar open/not too steep ungroomed terrain in SK?
     
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    Just to the right of Ichinose family, lovely little glades area. not long but fun. You can get across from family easy.
     
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    You'd be talking about Tanne no Mori.
     
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    Thanks Sandy, yes thats it.. we loved the area, happened to be across from where we stayed.
     
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    I'm joining this thread a little late, as we will be arriving in a fortnight, but I've been following along with interest. Loving all the the on-the-ground updates, thanks everyone!

    Would love some practical advice if anyone has a moment to assist...

    - Mr K Bird apparently owns zero mid-layers. Apparently such a thing has never been required in Australia (reasonable) or the US (seems odd). He also needs new thermal pants. Buy now, or wait until we are there? We have 4 days in Tokyo when we arrive, so time to get to a Uniqlo or similar, but not keen to spend hours trekking around trying to find what he needs. He's an Australian size medium. Is this doable, or better to hit up aussieskier.com before we go?

    - From what I've read, hotel rooms seem to be pretty overheated, so no need to pack super warm nightwear I assume? We are travelling with kids so these details can make or break a good night's sleep!

    - Our hotel has a laundry room. Is it reasonable to expect we can dry things in our room (instead of using the dryer)? See above re: kids and you will appreciate the necessary planning ahead for laundry!

    - We are planning to only take our snow/apres boots and wear these for the time we are in Tokyo. How many places (restaurants, cafes, etc) will require us to remove shoes - ie. are laceup boots a terrible idea? See above re: kids and assume there's zero chance of us going to any "nice" places.

    Thanks in advance for any tips or advice on the above (or on anything really!). Only 10 days until we leave and we've started to pack, so it's getting exciting :woohoo:
     
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    1. Piece of mind, get in Australia. There is a thread on midlayers in the equipment section. I’m in Shiga right now and have icebreaker 260 and a patagonia Nano Air Under my shell. That’s it.

    2. Too much information but we are all sleeping in our underwear here. Rooms are plenty warm without a heater.

    3. most active wear will dry overnight. Socks and undies might need a full 24 hours hanging.

    4. not sure. Need someone else to chime in but our Mr13 and Mr10 rolled around in lined gum boots in Tokyo with zero issues at any restaurant. Lots of izakayas have you kick off your shoes but they have little storage nooks for them.
     
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    - I bought a thin wool pullover at Target in Australia, and a thermal at Uniqlo in Japan is cheap and will do the job.
    - If it's too warm in a hotel room try opening the window for 2 min... make sure you close & lock it afterwards though, as monkeys can get in.
    - In Japan in winter, and particularly Shiga Kogen, the air is very dry, so drying is not so much an issue
     
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    True.But those monkeys are only monkeying around.
     
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    Those monkeys can destroy your gear!!!!

    A few years back, Shiga Kogen Highland Hotel at Maruike had a 3 hour power outage caused by monkeys getting into a room and shorting out an electrical cable by chewing!
     
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    If you would like to be on the first post of this thread - please give some dates and other info you like.
     
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    A bit more would be nice on Giant - just to ask, how does on come down the first part when it is closed - lift goes all the way up. o_O
    Will be ok for us later though. :thumbs:
     
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    Roughly zero snows overnight on the patented elSpike looking at car roof snow accumulation scale.
    Fingers crossed for later today.
     
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    This info edited into the first page:

    Bus info from Nagano: https://www.shirakaba.co.jp/blog/express-bus-fron-nagano-st/
    updated to Shigakogen Yama no eki.

    Express bus timetable from Nagano Station information: The names in English are not the names used at Shiga Kogen, so you can know where to get off:

    Sun Valley = Sun Valley
    Maruike= Maruike
    Hasuike open space = Hasuike (the OLD bus terminal)
    Shiga Mount Takahara station = Shigakogen Yamanoeki bus station, the main bus station at Shiga Kogen. (You ride the regular shuttle bus here from Ichinose and change to another shuttle to go to Yokoteyama. Shuttle timetable is on the course map) It's about 150m from the old Hasuike bus terminal.
    Hoppo Onsen = Hoppo Onsen
    High sky ka Hara = Takamagahara
    One shallow = Ichinose (Central Ichinose hotels)
    One shallows skiing area = Ichinose skiing area (This is where you get off for Diamond Ichinose, Chalet Shiga, etc)
    Prince Hotel west hall = Prince Hotel West wing
    Prince Hotel south hall = Prince Hotel South wing
    Prince Hotel east hall = Prince Hotel East Wing
    In front of depths Shiga gondola = Okushigakogen Gondola
    The depths Shiga Kogen hotel = Okushigakogen Hotel (and most other hotels)


    Kido Pond= Kidoike
    Flat floor (As I recall, there's a hotel stop between Kidoike and Kumanoyu)
    Kuma-no-Yu = Kumanoyu
    Hotaru Onsen = (If I recall, this is the stop you get off at for Yokoteyama... I always get off at Kumanoyu first, because you can get the trail from Kumanoyu to Yokoteyama). On the return trip, the bus leaves from just near the lift ticket window.


    (feel free to add)

    What is currently open at Shiga Kogen:
    https://www.shigakogen-ski.com/trail-map
     
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    Thanks Sandy!
     
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    It’s a pretty spectacular day today!
     
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    They run amok at Villa Ichinose a few years back.Year I skied with you and Steve Sandy.Got into the shop and robbed a bunch of guys outside of the food they had just bought inside.The outside door was ridiculous.It was a swinging door that could click and stay open.The minkeys would wait,get into the airlock and the next door was a motorised sliding door.Too easy.
     
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    Bloody monkeys!!!! :D
     
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    Hotel rooms are generally on the warm side in Japan. Shiga Palace at Yokoteyama is the warmest hotel I've stayed at. Turned out that the onsen in the basement kept the place toasty. Had to leave a crack in the window to cool things down.
     
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    Cooling things down [​IMG]
     
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    Oh yes, if its too hot - open the window - er - a crack!!
     
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    You better get out in the snow to cool down. :evil:
     
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    Sold 7-8cm on the car roofs this morning! :nerd:
    Edit. Now with daylight pic.

     
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    More importantly how are the Atom pants working out? Too hot? Not enough?
     
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    If you mean my Patagonia Nano Air Pants, they are outstanding. They are perfect for the temps here at Shiga (0 to -10). I can’t recommend them enough.
     
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    yassss. hopefully that sort of daily dump hangs in there for the next 2 weeks!
     
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    It’s ok out here...

     
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    Next 4 weeks would be good!LOL
     
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    Yes, except 30-35cm overnight would be a much better daily outcome, punctuated by some DEEP snow!!! ;)
     
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    @elSpike great TR you make!

    If you take the upper connection from Hasuike to Giant would be nice to know whether the rope tow works again - newer maps/fotos could suggest that - and nice for us elderly. :wave:
     
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    I’ll make a point of it to check just for you. (Plus I’ve never used a rope tow before so I’m kinda interested)

    I’m not old but I’m lazy!
     
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    :thumbs:

    My wife is the elderly- not me either!:nerd_ubb:
     
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    The season before last, the rope tow wasn't running. Last season, the rope tow was no longer there, so I'd say it will no longer run. It's only about 70m long.
    - Firstly, in order to use the rope tow, you needed to know where it was, and it was not obvious as to where it was: Get off left from the Hasuike chair, and down about 350m, on the right and through the tunnel.
    - Secondly, you can go a different way, through the tunnel at the bottom of the Hasuike Chair, follow the track to the road, walk across the road , then walk/skate about 100m behind the Shiga Lake Hotel, to the cat track.
     
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    Yes yes. Patagonia! Good to hear. Ta