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Shiga Kogen 2019/2020

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Hyst, Oct 13, 2019.

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  1. Hyst

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    With your help and google Iknow of both ways , but came across random foto were I thought I saw a new rop tow put up.

    That is why I asked one more time.
    Maybe a old foto, but did not reallylook like it.
     
  2. elSpike

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    Awww yissss.

     
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    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    And on piste.

     
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    Likey, likey!
     
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    Luckily not too deep for you, it seems!!! ;)
     
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    Yeah. You know me and powder....
     
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    now that's more like it. enjoy your powder day... yeeep
     
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    28cm reported at Shiga Kogen.
    Probably more up high
     
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    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    My TR in a bit will reflect some much larger numbers from up high.
     
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    My buddies always tell me to attack the fall line in POW & Snot.
    Guess you’ve heard ad nauseam? :confused::mad:
     
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    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    Send it! What could go wrong?
     
  12. elSpike

    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looks like maybe a few extra cm overnight but most of it wind blown so who knows how much stayed on piste. I don’t think it will matter as we got at least 10-12 more throughout the day while skiing. Groomers will be magic to begin with and a little choppy by the afternoon.

    Our hotel must be fairly empty today as they have posted breakfast will be set meal not buffet.



    Interestingly there was one guy who spent half of yesterday digging out two 2wd cars whose owners were somewhat clueless as to how to deal with that much snow.
     
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    Somewhere I saw a post about staying overnight in Nagano but cannot find it - not sure if in this thread.
    Any suggestions for a hotel close to the station to stay before getting the bus to SK in the morning. Thanks
     
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    Hotel Sunroute Nagano-Higashiguchi
     
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    Plenty of options close to the station. I'll be doing the same and have booked one close. Can't recall the name right now and haven't stayed there before.
     
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    Now you mention it, I think that was the one I booked.
     
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    Thanks Sandy and Heinz. Hotel Sunroute Nagano-Higashiguchi it is.
     
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    Pistes are empty again but it’s getting warm. Opening vents and shedding layers. Feels like spring.
     
  19. Sandy

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    High pressure to the SE, and a trough heading in from China directs a southerly off the Kuroshio Current.
     
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    Lightly snowing at Takamagahara at the moment. Nice fluffy flakes. I expect that will change for the worse in a couple of years.
     
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    It’s holding up really well. Temp is now at least -4 at Yaki. Snow is slightly wet but decent sized flakes. This is even at the bottom of Prince South. Fingers crossed for the rain to stay away.
     
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    Seems very unlikely, but I hope so.
    Freeze level looks like peaking late this evening / early tomorrow morning.
     
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    Thank you all for the fabulous advice in response to my earlier post. Very much appreciated!

    1. Thank you! This is exactly the layering combo I've planned for me, and have now implemented similar for Mr Bird. If he's cold it will be his own fault.
    2&3. Ignoring the visual image for now, that's very helpful info. No winter PJs required, obviously, and good to know that drying is speedy (I saw you put further info on the laundry facilities in your TR - thank you!)
    4. Sounds like we can get by with our boots as planned. Ta!

    Ummm ... monkeys through the window?!?!? I feel like this the Japanese equivalent of drop bears...
    Thank you for the info/reminder about the dryness. I'd forgotten how dry everything was in Utah, and I can imagine SK being the same. Will pack moisturiser!

    Important info ... 17-25 Jan: K-Bird, Mr Bird + 2 kidlets. Thanks for updating the first post :)

    Another question for @Sandy if that's okay ... I saw on the planning thread you mentioned the express bus. We need to get the bus from SK-Haneda on the way home (checkout that morning, fly home that night). I figure the bus will be easier since we will have all our gear and the kids. Is there a particular bus company you recommend, or any other tips? Do we need to book in advance or can we ask our hotel to help us make the booking once we get there?
     
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    You can use this:
    https://naganosnowshuttle.com/Haneda.aspx
    Not cheap though. Need to reserve your seats.
     
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    Hi Sandy, E I Spike & all,

    Now I’ve dodged NY fires & I’m back at home, I can concentrate on packing, shortlisting kit, etc... I notice the EIS comment re hotel accom being hot.

    Is this a pretty general fact everywhere?

    Ie, lobbies, dining rooms, bus (SK-N, Hak-N, Narita-Hak), shops, stations, Shinkansen & airports?

    This will be really handy intell as I run warm at the best of times and don’t want overdo the laters in these environments. Esp, as I can almost remember my 88/89’ Nth Am winter trip.
    (Constantly peeling off my 1 thick fleece & 1 shell)!

    I’m thinking in most public places: thinnish travel pants, runners, short-sl coolmax top, v thin fleece or light wind jckt if cooler & shell in daypack? V similar to Midwinter in Queenstown?

    Thanks in advance.:skier:
     
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    Japan is cold. But not antarctic cold. Think Europe cold. I think, as Australians, any thought of a cold climate/environment sends alarm bells. But think about the reality. While in Australia, indoor areas do not generally have central heating, they do in other parts of the world. This means that while it's cold outside, it can be comfortably warm inside. When you're outside dress up in layers. Base, mid and top. Strip off or add on as the situation demands.
    Tonester's tip for Japow......don't freak in anticipation of the COLD. It's not going to be Lake-Louise-east-of-the-rockies cold.
     
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    It may seem that way but it’s absolutely true. You will see signs everywhere reminding you to close the windows. I’ll try to snap a picture tomorrow before we leave.
     
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    However depending on the type of accommodation it can be cold inside to. Some old japanese lodges are not always built with a central heating but with local gas- or other heating.
     
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    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    I hope this is ok. I’m posting the relevant bits from my TR.

    Ski Rental
    Every hotel in Ichinose has a ski rental, usually offering 2-4year old 76mm waisted Rossis or Atomics. They cater to the general masses of the beginner market. Some might have to odd pair of powder skis but they are almost always in the 160-170cm lengths suitable for local clientele.
    We looked at 3 places trying to find decent 85-95mm waisted skis and found the following.

    Nord Ichinose, located directly opposite the Shiga Grand. Great people. They respond relatively quickly via Facebook messenger in English. They have credit card facilities and a decent selection of wider skis in the >90mm ranges, though most of them were 170cm or shorter. I really wanted to rent from them, but ultimately they didn't have skis quite long enough for all of us. I don’t fully recall the rates but they were essentially the same if not better than Snowcan’s premium skis.

    Snowcan. Main shop is located right on Ichinose Diamond ski field and conveniently across the road from Chalet Shiga. They have other stations all over Shiga Kogan but Ichinose has the best range. They have an eclectic mix of recent model skis in pretty much every combination of length and width, if you can find them. When you come in, if you chose the performance price band they just point you at their stash and you choose. It’s a little bit like the ski shops in Tokyo actually.





    Prices are on their website, and if you book at least 2 days in advance you get 8% off. They speak reasonable English and accept credit cards.

    Head Station Chalet Shiga. Located in... well... you get it. We didn’t realise they were there till we arrived. They seem to have pretty much all of last years Head skis, from their basic range through to their top of the line racing skis. They even have a few pairs of the Head Monster range as well. Chalet Shiga Guest’s get 20% off the listed prices.









     
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    Shiga Kogen pretty much completely open

     
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    Could be an energy/emission reduction scheme?
     
  32. Sandy

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    No.
    It's snow monkeys. Lots of them.
     
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    :thumbs: :clap: :yum: :ski:

    Don't mind the last bit - but going to stay in Hasuike, Giant was most important for us to get around the one way.
    (and 2 more snow monkeys are on the plane in 10 days:cool:)
     
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    You guys got rain over there this morning?
     
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    A little.



    steady rain for the past hour or so.
     
  37. Hyst

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    Can't really like that. :(

    But you are safe - Ichiro is driving you.:thumbs:
     
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    He’s good people.
     
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    Looks to be a regional warmth burst. Really looking forward to cooler temps and snow tonight! Hope you guys get the same!
     
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    Thank you - exactly what I was after. You're right that it's not cheap, though ... $750 for a family of four!
     
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    Another option is to use that money towards hiring a car to get there but with that comes a whole raft of stress too.
     
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    True, I can see that would most like be much better value. Personally, we’re choosing convenience and low-stress over saving $$$, but that’s just us. We (and kids!) are also looking forward to the Shinkansen from Tokyo on the way there - more fun than either bus or car, we hope!
     
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    @K_Bird : I do like your avatar - real star wars quality :thumbs:.

    https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/14-days/shiga-kōgen_japan_1852552

    Not being the big weatherman I stick to this one (7 or 14 days), and listen a bit in on the japanese weather forum here. (and there is of course @Sandy with wind- and valley directions and a bit more :D)


    and the one to get confused:
    https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather-maps/shiga-kōgen_japan_1852552?variable=wind_streamlines&level=surface&lines=none&mapcenter=36.7000N138.5000&zoom=6

    As I stay a bit around Tokyo and a bit in Shimane before and after skiing the fact that meteoblue has many geografical location to use, and models may, in the end, be very much alike if they are made in Japan or in Switzerland, does that i find it handy? :fishing:
     
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    Just for cross reference purpuse........The cheapest option is taking the highway bus from Shinjuku to Nagano station. 2900 yen per adult, 1460 yen per child (each way). https://highway-buses.jp/course/nagano.php
     
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    Good forward forecast for all this week.



    Not big falls but at least it will be constantly topping up.
     
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    Thanks for that.

    I was meant to be doing 3 days in a Hakuba and 5 in Shiga Kogen. I’m considering changing my plans to spend the whole 8 days in Shiga instead. I’ve already paid for my Hakuba accommodation (cheap lodge) but would save money and time not having to transfer between the two resorts.

    Any thoughts? I guess I can leave it to the last minute and see.
     
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    Yep, good strategy as things can change quickly. I'd think Shiga would be a better bet though if you're arriving soon.
     
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    Stay in shiga. You won’t regret it.
     
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    Hi there, A query about getting around at Shiga Kogen. To go for an explore from Ichinose up to Yokoteyama / Shibutoge do I have to change bus at the terminal or do the shuttles run through from one end to the other of the various areas?

    Cheers. Oh and not 100% sure I am going yet, fingers crossed the boss says yes tomorrow and I can pull the pin.....