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Shiga kogen

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Budgiesmuggler, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. Budgiesmuggler

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    we are going to head to shiga tomorrow to try and get above the rain. Where is the best 0”/ce/area for a day trip? Preferably with higher altitude given the rain. Thanks!
     
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    Yokoteyama is the highest area 1750m - 2305m, however I would suggest trying Yakebitaiyama first at 1550m -2010m as there's a couple of gondolas there with plenty of terrain to get on (if freeze level is below there you will have much more terrain on offer via intereconnected areas). If it's still wet there then jump in your car and get over Yokoteyama to get up higher.
     
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    We just headed to Yokoteyama. It was raining most of the way but snowing when we got there. A few ropes but a bit of terrain around. We spent most of the day lapping a lift off the back that had a decent amount of snow, no ropes and no people

    Thanks for the tip!

    We didn’t have much time as we had to be back at myoko for 4pm ski school pick up.
     
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    Great, glad you didn't get wet. Most people would have by the sound of it today.
     
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  6. Hyst

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    As we are going Shiga I found out it has very good google "pist ski" possibilities - sitting in 28 C and trying to ski the area on google piste to find the ways.
    Could see there sometimes is som walking between connecting lifts.

    Do they hand out a good piste map of the hole area, when buying ticket? Have not been able to finde good online map yet - always get a bit wound up after summer holidays.

    Tunnel as suggested by @Sandy and @Hagle under the street 292 between Hasuke and Giant is a to way tunnel. (Keep to the right - skiers and boarders are regarded pedestians - that helps me who is driving on the correct right side:whistle:).


    There seems to be a tow lift towards Giant - but might not be in function as outhers say skate or walk.


    At the end of Hoppo there might be some walking to get on. :gives:

    (yes, I know the snow has melted while I am sitting in 28 C :( but I suppose lift will be working:clown:)


    Meanwhile it has snowed again and via alternative way top of Nishidateyama does not require walking up:clap:


    Better keep som speed here and hope Japanese and OZ remember to ski on the right side! :evil: (but maybe faster via Hoppo - Higashida Tateyama)


    Ups - wish they would have a standard way of keeping side! Takamagahara crossing - now keep left! :headbang: (the sign was down from the other side) May be speed is higher her and skiers are regarded as cars?:rolleyes:

    And important pitstop for the wife - better memorize!


    Top of Takamagahara lift seems to be a bit of dead end - have to go down towards Hoppo to get further up? At least not the easy route up.
    Top of Hitashitateyama seems to have good signing - I will make a stop here, nice view nice form 200o / 2000 Cafe!:D
     
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    That's the old rope tow. hasn't run in the last two season though.... but it's only a 40m walk up the hill.

    The tunnel.... You come off the Hasuike Chair, go straight, then hard left, and about half way back to the lift on the right... you need to be looking out for it.
     
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    Got it! :thumbs:
     
  9. Hyst

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    Okushia / Ichinose is a large area - have to look how to get skiing there. Bus one way out from Sunvalley area will be the way I hope.
    However I do like the hotel we chose.
     
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    I previously posted this:
     
  11. Hyst

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    I know , it was most helpful - just thinking online :thumbs: as I have not found a good map yet - but now can see a lot of maps in terrain.
    But most funny is this keep left / keep right :D.
     
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    So after leaving café 200o/2000 or whatever it is called have to look out at this junction - better memorize some kanji towards Terakoya as the automatic visual skiing translator has a tendency of falling behind - having romaji on the sign is nice.


    Down in Terakoya it seems there is only one way out - same way back!
    Lift towards Ichinose seems dead-anyway, does not connect to Ichinose directly it seems.

    But just have to go to the top of Terakoyamine - high but maybe not so speciale? But nice view over on Okushiga area.
    And on the way down to Terakoya keep left to hit lift back.

    Back to top of Hoppo /200o where there is a good junction towards Ichinose as well - as @Sandy pointed out on different thread.


    Having taken the connecting path from top Hoppo standing on top if Ichinose and ending down to cross the road.


    Crossing street and on the other side Ichinose Diamont area
     
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    Relax Hyst..........it's not hard to find your way around Shiga. :)
    Bit of map research beforehand so you know where you are......rest is fun exploring.
     
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    Don’t stress, @Hyst ! You will find your way around Shiga Kogen. Our hotel (Chalet Shiga in Ichinose) provided us with an English language publication that had a large map of the entire resort. Some of the individual resorts also have their own English language maps of their local areas. My favourite area was probably Yakebitaema. Cafe 2000 was great - a very cute little gondola takes you to the top. I think you’ve read bits of my trip report from January this year; this will give you some idea of the different areas within Shiga.

    Edit: snap @Zimbooo !
     
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    Very relaxed just killing time while OH sees JP drama.
     
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    Yes, I have studied your trip report thank you very much - and anything else on here about Shiga and @Sandy was very helpful as well. Will ski the Yakebitaema - Okushiga area in a few days online. :whistle:
    Did even find som dead skiing area below Kumanoyu - pity, could make piste all the way down to Sunnvalley?


     
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    Doesn't work that way.... It's too flat.
     
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    Yes, after you hint saw it on GSI map https://www.gsi.go.jp/ENGLISH/page_e30233.html

    Wish Google maps had such layers as well - up and down can be a problem to see.

    Now brother in law wants to come along for few days - so will be driving out from Tokyo. Guess we have to push upwords with his 2WD. LOL
     
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    :thumbs:

    Some of us are form a different time so google maps is not always my friend:LOL


    And do not loose the cards when you have made a 200 card program.:)
     
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    Ok, back on summer-skiing in Shiga.:) (has not snowed yet):D

    This looks like a dead lift? And the way over Ichinose Yamanokami seems just a deture to get on - anybody know for sure?




    Ok found Prince Hotel piste map and the newest does not show that lift anymore (older one does).

    After a bit of snow I found the lower connection to Okushiga. (not quite sure about the top connection)

    Is the top a two-way skating connection around top of Yakebitai-yama?


    And finally Okushiga - the end in the North
     
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    Yes that's a dead lift.

    Also if you look just below your red circle, there is another shorter dead lift, but they've removed it. I've used that lift about 10 years ago.
    #BTW, those 2 runs next to it are now OOB.
     
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    The top is a two way skate. Better to use the lower Okushiga connection from Yakebitai, and the upper to get back (it's the only way back)
     
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    there is some lovely off-piste skiing in-between the 2 resorts which also provide access to Okushiga. On the way back it’s a stake via high connection or in my case skate and pull my wife on her snowboard.
     
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    Thank you, but not for me - would look like a fool.:whistle:
     
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    Thank you - yes it was a bit difficult to find out what was up and down on these connecting top scating pistes around Yakebitai-yama
     
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    Slightly off vein of the current topic. Still trying to decide where to ski. Price will be a factor. I looked last month at prince west wing family room (have previously stayed there briefly) and seibu club price was 71k yen, looked again today and was up to 111k. Does anyone know if prices vary like airlines when dealing with accommodation? We usually dont purchase our flights til late nov, for end feb/early march japan trip, but got a good deal so have purchased flights earlier than usual. So I'm not sure if all the prices are elevated as we are a long way out or prices are rising due to olympics etc. (Naeba is 2&half time more $$ for 2020 than 2019 trip same dates)
     
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    I think it has to do with Chinese tourist skiers.
    I was looking at Naeba prices at the Prince, and they shoot up from late January, and stay high right through February.
    If you're looking, I didn't book through the Seibu Club last January, for Naeba Prince, I booked via booking.com, as it was cheaper. Also, try plugging in weekdays only (Sun-Fri) to start with, to get an idea about availability. It's often the lack of beds on the weekend that pushes you to more expensive rooms.
     
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    Main bus stop station has moved away from our hotel.:( Have to walk a bit down towards the post office.:mad:

    Sitting outside talking about Japanese skiresorts and who is visiting them I just used the words Powder Snow Junkies - OH was about to fall of her chair - but I like that expression.:)
    Never reached it myself. :whistle:

    I wonder if I dare to go to Kumanoyu sounds a bit dangerous or is it just the new tourist attraction wth Bears in the onsen? Kind of upgrading from monkeys?
     
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    That's actually a better place for the bus stop. It has a shop there, etc, place to sit inside. Makes more sense, and more space.
     
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    Finally made the decision and booked Shiga Kogen in for 7 nights from 24th Feb. Looking forward to it. Barely remember our brief few nights there on our first Japan trip 4 years ago. Got a good deal at the Prince. Now to re-read those trip reports for dinner recommendations.
     
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    I'm just booking us in for 7 nights at the Grand Phenix 2nd to 9th Feb. Been reading up on the Conbini thread!
     
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    Quickly glanced over my old TR, @Melskius . We had good meals at the Hotel Diamond buffet, Dairoku (a small izakaya with delicious food, and downstairs in the bar at Chalet Shiga (where there is a surprising array of delicious meals). All in Ichinose. We found that we needed to book (staying in January).
     
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    Thanks for that. Your trips report was where I was heading, having already read it a few times previously. Thanks for the tips. the other trip report is elspikes I think.
     
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    Looking forward to see that sowbunny on piste, though color and distance makes it difficult.
    (When we are on top of Yokoteyama we will do like this to you in Okushiga :wave: so keep an eye open. :) )


    And moving south:
    Is the connecting slop " marked red" a scating pist between top of Kumanoyu and Yokote? Looks a bit flat some parts.

    (google use was not so good it seems):whistle:
     
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    The one in Okushiga Kogen? We had a very nice lunch there :)
     
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    And finaly has anybody stayed overnight on top of Yokoteyama? (In winter!)

    Pitty Manza is not possible - the onsen just looks so inviting.
     
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    Yes that's it. It's flat towards the end, so it's best to keep the speed going.
     
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    OH learned skiing there in 74.
     
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    Our eyes will be well open to :wave:. We like to lunch at Maruike or Terakoya so look out for us in turquoise pants and red jacket (me) and black pants and red jacket (him) and a dark tartan backpack!
     
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    That's the one! We stayed at the Okushiga hotel last time and had a hot chocolate at the Phenix. We've saved our pennies for a bit more this time!
     
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    Oh, have to be careful OH sometimes follows the wrong red jacket and black pants - first to find out at next lift - me desperate trying to find out where she has gone.LOL
    So if you OH suddenly is follow by a purple jacket give me a shout.

    Not many mountain restaurants as we are used to her in Europe, but Cafe 200o seems to have one off the best views if the weather will.
     
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    Yes! I've done that too!LOL I had a really good conversation with someone on Sundowner before I realised that it wasn't Snowbuck!:rolleyes:
     
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    Just had a look around to find a bar in the area, not much found, but your Maruike lunch place, if it is the Maruike Hotel cafe looks interesting.
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