CarveMan said:That's pretty much my beef as well. It's taxation without representation and also duplicating many functions already in place with the local shires.
CarveMan said:It's not just the RMBs, there is a whole other layer above them called the ARCC.
sly_karma said:There's a perception that skiing in Australia is big business when in fact it's a small seasonal niche industry. Everyone around it seems to think that big cash is flying around when it's actually relatively tiny. Already there is little cash flow in the system to feed all those mouths, but they don't see that at all.
Born2ski said:CarveMan said:That's pretty much my beef as well. It's taxation without representation and also duplicating many functions already in place with the local shires.
Here's a question, when did all these RMBs come into place, what year ? And why ? Are there any other examples of this type of RMB structures used on other resorts in Australia, do they have any for the great barrier reef resorts ? Why only ski resorts ?
snow-pixie said:sly_karma said:There's a perception that skiing in Australia is big business when in fact it's a small seasonal niche industry. Everyone around it seems to think that big cash is flying around when it's actually relatively tiny. Already there is little cash flow in the system to feed all those mouths, but they don't see that at all.
Given this thread is about QANTAS..the parallels are strong
Back in the 50's when it was flying boats and Constellations and you wore suits to travel, flying was beyond the reach of ordinary folk..and QANTAS had a monoploy
The arrival of the 707/747 and the opening of airspace to more carriers has changed all that
Similarly on the Mountain..the arrival of mass produced mountain wear, accommodation and high speed/capacity lifts and better access to the fields has led to every level of society enjoying what was once a fairly elitist pastime.
Then the overseas destinations started spruiking
More choice, lower margins
It's a lethal combination for any business
KTI said:Last week (not this week), it was cheaper for a family to fly from Brisbane to Los Angeles in mid December, than fly to Queenstown on Air NZ/Virgin nonstop just before Sep school holidays.
People have been spoilt for choice in past, but now with flight cutbacks & fuel prices, airfares have to rise, so the roadtrip or part road trip, will have to make a comback.
Might be end of last minute ski holiday deals, unless you're driving.
EXACTLY SO YOU DO UNDERSTAND SOME PRINCIPLES OF SUPPLY & DEMAND, WHICH IS WHY FLIGHTS TO QUEENSTOWN ARE BEING CUT.skidown said:My point being you said it "might be the end of last minute ski holiday deals"
It isn't and it will never be
HERE WE GO AGAIN.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, AIRLINES WON'T NEED TO DUMP SEATS, IF THEY SIMPLY CANCEL FLIGHTS.
Oh and you do know that Virgin Australia fly Brisbane to Queenstown..... Just looked for Mid July and flights are $567 return on a connecting flight.
BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET UP AT 3AM TO GET A 6.45AM INT FLIGHT, TO THEN GO VIA SOMEWHERE LIKE AKL + DON'T FORGET TO ADD $50 FOR 23KGS OF CHECKED BAGGAGE & ALSO ANY EXTRA SEATS ARE MORE.
OH and Virgin still fly Non-Stop Brisbane to Queenstown too, but yes they will increase prices.... and if they can good on them.
It's not like anyone in the airline industry is making an adequate ROI
ladycamper said:We could in the alternate, with our working visa scheme (poms etc), say that the regular minimum wage does not apply, and that either 75% of minimum wage, or no minimum wage at all, applies. That way asylum seekers (with work rights or if we allow it) or any backpackers could secure wages by their own negotiation. Our tourism industry is getting caned through international competition and our high dollar atm.
CarveMan said:That's already happened in the Ski Industry IMO.
There are plenty of 'Jobs' up there that used to be 'Professions'.
No one answer as to why but the nett result is a drop in service.
scullee said:It has always confused me why people chase skiing down at Queenstown when the skiing in Canterbury is that much better.
snow-pixie said:And if you haven't skiid Coronet with 60cm of fresh on a good base you've missed some of the best skiing in the Southern Hemisphere...beats Treble hands down in those conditions IMO
just visiting said:
You're very lucky to have skied each area in 60cm. Wow! I can only remember a few times in the past 16 years that TC has had more than 60cm in one dump! And you were there! I was at TC too and it was incredible! I can only imagine what CP must have been like... (did CP get dump of interesting terrain at the same time?).snow-pixie said:And if you haven't skiid Coronet with 60cm of fresh on a good base you've missed some of the best skiing in the Southern Hemisphere...beats Treble hands down in those conditions IMO
just visiting said:Snow-pixil - you are amazing!
snow-pixie said:just visiting said:Snow-pixil - you are amazing!
Sarcastica font on!
There is nothing amazing about me
I think it was 1995..maybe 96, but I would have to show some shots involving a canary yellow jumpsuit and a black headband...images which would sear your brain with their sheer steeziness
Unless you know where to ski.snow-pixie said:TC loses its snow quality quickly.
Imagine this: you wake up in your own bed but you're hitting the downhill slopes of a ski resort â€“ in another country - by early afternoon.
The prospect of taking an international flight to reach your white powder destination on the same day may seem unlikely, but it's can be a reality â€“ and without spending hours in the car slowly winding your way into the mountains.
It's possible to take an early flight from an eastern capital and be lining up at the lifts above Queenstown, New Zealand, by mid-afternoon.
snow-pixie said:scullee said:
I don't go to Queenstown for the skiing..but I've been going at least once every winter since 1994.
And if you haven't skiid Coronet with 60cm of fresh on a good base you've missed some of the best skiing in the Southern Hemisphere...beats Treble hands down in those conditions IMO
Cold air ,woodsmoke,people,food = vibe
I find Methven and the flat Canterbury Plains farming towns frankly depressing
Red_switch said:That much fresh is even better at remarks. Interesting to note that despite being a "Wanaka" event, both the qualifiers and finals of the big mountain section of the NZ freeski open are now being held at remarks... Quite a few long time TC season-passers have jumped ship lately.
damian said:If this forum where the Australian skiing population, it appears that all the article by Mr Hackworth managed to do was stir up interest in NZ and promote discussion about the relative merits of different ski areas within NZ. I now know more than I did 2 weeks ago. I have always been uncontrollably itchy to go to NZ... this is not helping.