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Ski boss accused of rorting Baw Baw

Discussion in 'Mt Baw Baw' started by parkmonkey, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. parkmonkey

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    Ski boss accused of rorting Baw Baw

     
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    I bet the same sh*t happens in all the other resorts to an extent. Who pays for it, the punters!
     
  3. parkmonkey

    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    There's a difference between punters and tax payers.
     
  4. Hymie

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    Baw Baw has been a almost 100% state sponsored project since the lift company collapsed some years back.

    Not exactly right. The lift company collapsed because the board wouldn't renew their operating lease, thereby forcing them out of business. A precursor to the pattern that has been evident in all dealings with Mt Baw Baw in the ensuing years.
     
  5. Richard

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    I stand corrected
     
  6. priderock

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    The world runs on nepotism, nothing wrong with that. If it's your business it's entirely your perjogative.

    The issue here is appropriate governance of public funds - afaik, Baw Baw has been a almost 100% state sponsored project since the lift company collapsed left town some years back. Every public servant, especially at the executive level, is well versed in what the approrpriate code of conduct is and this reads like the boundarys have been overstepped.

    Personally I find it an unfortunate turn because Leona has done wonders for Baw Baw and has dramatically improved all areas of the resorts operation and the civic infrastructure since her commission.


    Sorry Richard ... perhaps have a look at the commentary under "Baw Baw" to get the views of what appears many close to BB and it's administration.

    Being close to a couple of stakeholders the view I hear seems to be the CEO is a megalomaniac (sorry not good at spelling) trying to run anyone not associated with her off the mountain. Doubt if this is in the code of conduct !!
     
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    "The world runs on nepotism, nothing wrong with that. If it's your business it's entirely your perjogative.(Sic).
    The issue here is appropriate governance of public funds"

    As a shareholder in a non-public funded enterprise I'd be totally peed-off if the boss hired his relatives instead of the best person for the job. Even a private business should always get the best it can, as an operating principle.

    A world NOT running on nepotism would be a far better world.
     
  8. teckel

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    I'm floored and saddened at the dishonesty/corruption/rorting/whatever you want to call it so prevelant in organisations/companies/governments these days. Whatever happened to the days when this sort of crap didn't go on? Why do people do it? It's not a matter of whether you get caught or not, it's a matter of fundamental honesty and decency. The world is going mad [​IMG] It seems to be all about greed whether that be for power or money.
     
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    With you teckel ..... hope the ombudsman gets his finger into this.
     
  10. the_guru

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    So are we going to investigate the rest of the resorts in Vic??
    Or do the media get too much of a good deal too expose the rest??
     
  11. teckel

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  13. teckel

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    Links added in my above post
     
  14. Austin powers

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    Cooking the books is still cooking the books
     
  15. hair-raiser

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    The publicly announced government enquiry in to Thwaite's transgressions, Ward's supposed rorting, and how Saint Waterfalls got possession of the Bogong High Plains Road never got off the ground. No report ever saw the light of day.

    Just why did Thwaites resign immediately after Bracks announced he was quitting?
     
  16. PolePlant

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    Because he voted against Brumby to put Bracks in

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    I dont know if that rates as "political" as I think that was well known among their own.

     
  17. VSG

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    Steady, petals. Allegations at this stage. Whether true or not in your minds and evident in your online bravado.

    [​IMG]

    And the article in the OP says it may be widespread:

     
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    Hey VSG, I was working at BB at the time, BB was NOT found to be doing any wronging in that KPMG audit, that was Falls.
     
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    It's a moot point now that the CEO has resigned.
     
  20. teckel

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    Really? More info please [​IMG]
     
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    I guess we won't be getting any more posts from bawbawboarder!
     
  22. teckel

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    I heard same thing yesterday. The report should make interesting reading, it's out next week I hear. Does she know what's coming ??
     
  24. teckel

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    When did she resign? Sounds fishy - that she may have resigned knowing it's about to hit.

    And it appears not to be the first time
     
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    I understand it was annouced yesterday. There has been an email stating that due to ill health she can no longer continue. If this is true, i wish her well with her health, I would not wish ill health anyone, I have been through it with family and it is cruel.

    I must say though that the timing of it all makes me wonder........
     
  26. teckel

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    Given her past form, if it's a health issue, I would suspect it's probably nothing more than stress from the worry of what the report will say.
     
  27. SuskiQ

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    Teckel
    It's the Big C. Stop speculating!
     
  28. teckel

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    How very convenient!
     
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    So has anyone heard anything of the report as yet?
     
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    Because there's nothing more convenient than cancer.
     
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    I thought better of you than to make such a horrible comment teckel [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, it is unlike me. But I'm operating under other reliable sources.
    If I'm proven wrong, I will apologise unreservedly.
     
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    I've heard absolutely nothing about this...
     
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    Leona (and/or family) owns a unit in DP (Im friends with the property managers) so I'm sure that part of the allegations are completely wrong. I'd be very surprised if she isn't cleared of all accusations and I too will stand corrected if that turns out to not be the case.

    Cancer is NEVER convenient and I wish her EVERY good wish in dealing with that challenge.

    I'm aware of who one of the "accusers" is that brought about the investigations... there's history there so I guess I'm not too surprised [​IMG]
     
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  36. teckel

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  37. Ian D

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    Link to the source of that Teckel or remove it.
     
  38. Barras

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    Thanks Barras for that link. I forgot to put the link in.
    I'm amazed that someone reported that post - it's common knowledge, so clearly the person who reported it doesn't know much about the case, if they demanded a source.

    The link is also in the OP, which is what this thread is meant to be about and quoted again in the last post of the first page of this thread.
     
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    I think ian has to mindful of the legal position and just make sure that any allegations are just passing on already published reports. can't blame him for a bit of arse protecting
     
  41. teckel

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    Agree. Ian's in the clear. But if you try to 'notify' that post of mine, it says that it has already been notified - which means that someone else has notified it. ie: someone didn't like it. Maybe 'bawbawboarder' (aka Leona)?
     
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    No one makes up cancer treatment as a cover up. One look at the lady would tell you she is clearly unwell. She has difficult treatment to face a long hard journey, she is a human being with a horrible illness. Respect that please.
     
  43. teckel

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    Has she left the job yet? Or just announced her resignation?
    Who is Acting CEO?
     
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    Stuart Ord from Parks Victoria has been appointed for now.
     
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    At the risk of raising some that may not want to be discussed,

    - Where is the Deloitte report?

    I think disclosure and publication of the report will give everyone confidence in the management of the resort and may clear Leona of the allegations made against her.

    Having this left behind closed doors gives an impression that something is being hidden.

    It would be good for Stuart Ord to be able to respond to any shortcomings or problems identified by the report.

    It is an uneasy feeling when everything goes quiet.
     
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    Totally agree Forty

    Where is the report and what does it contain. Not releasing the details is contrary to transparency and credibility, leaving lingering doubt. If the allegations against the former CEO were false then announce the truth and clear her name. Equally if there was substance to the allegations, we as taxpayers and visitors to Baw Baw have a right to know and what is going to be done about it.

    How can confidence be restored to the management of the mountain with this hanging over it ?? It must be very difficult for Stuart Ord with this left unresolved.

    Do we as citizens have the right to know the details through freedom of information - I would imagine so.
     
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    Watch this space priderock, it's gonna happen
     
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    Problems for Stuart seem to mount. Apart from having to recruit a new Head of housekeeping right at the start of the season, it seems there are now vacancies for the head of IT and the head of Cleaning Services as well. Not a great start to the year. Some of those staff will be sadly missed. Whats going on?
     
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    Timing is not good but maybe a great opportunity for Stuart to recruit senior staff of his choosing to "move forward" as the cliche goes !!
     
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    New head of IT eh?
    Leonas Son quit did he?
     
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