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Mitchell Pearce

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Do t know the resort but it looks good!
Cheers Zac. The Aussies that worked there last year, want to return and do another season which is a good sign.
Looks like heaps of deep power mostly steep black runs.
My daughter is in year 12 and had a job lined up in Vale but can't get a working visa for the USA because the type of visa for ski instructing requires you to be in University for minimum six months. She has entered for early entry at Uni but that isn't enough for the visa. Canadian visa's doesn't have the same prerequisites.
Go the Raiders.
 
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Just noticed that Kicking Horse lies between Banff and Revelstoke, so I’ll be going right past. Worth a visit? Not covered under my pass, so will need to buy a day ticket.
 

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awesome mountain don't give up the opportunity to ski it, lots of fun for a high end skier but still more than enough to keep an intermediate level happy.
Weather dependant, will do. Was planning a night in Golden anyway :)
 
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have skied both and yes I agree.
I agree too. Absolutely love the Horse less people and so much fun terrain. Once you hit mid-mountain there are basically 2 huge ridges running parallel to the lifts and you pick whatever line you like on either side of each ridge. Lines go from easy and chilled to WTF you not going off that. From the resort base you will be like this resort looks boring because you can’t see the good stuff until you get over the mid-mountain ridge. Happy days...I want to go back to KH even though I got kicked by the horse with 2 epic stacks
 

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We are upping camp from Sun Peaks and giving Big White a try this year.
It was always reassuring with SP with the degree of snowmaking. I always knew there'd some white stuff to play on even if Ullr didn't come through.
@sly_karma may be best equipped to answer- is there a reason why BW and SS haven't invested in the guns to the same degree?
Looking at the cams I see BW has cover already and SP not as much.. Is it geographic? Cost? access to water?
Whats the story?
 

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We are upping camp from Sun Peaks and giving Big White a try this year.
It was always reassuring with SP with the degree of snowmaking. I always knew there'd some white stuff to play on even if Ullr didn't come through.
@sly_karma may be best equipped to answer- is there a reason why BW and SS haven't invested in the guns to the same degree?
Looking at the cams I see BW has cover already and SP not as much.. Is it geographic? Cost? access to water?
Whats the story?

No one makes snow in October, too much risk of warming weather or rain that melts away expensive manmade snow. There was a weird storm that came through from the SW in late Sept that dumped hugely at Apex, more moderately at BW and SS and only a bit at SP. I'm guessing most of what you're seeing on the cams is left from that and a week later. Also of course different aspects hold snow differently, unlikely they're all aligned the same.
 
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No one makes snow in October, too much risk of warming weather or rain that melts away expensive manmade snow. There was a weird storm that came through from the SW in late Sept that dumped hugely at Apex, more moderately at BW and SS and only a bit at SP. I'm guessing most of what you're seeing on the cams is left from that and a week later. Also of course different aspects hold snow differently, unlikely they're all aligned the same.
Thanks Sly. I didn’t make my question clear...I wasn’t referring specifically to this time of year- just generally. SP seems to have invested in more snowmaking capacity than BW or SS. Do BW/ SS have more reliable snow or is there another reason.
 

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SP gets a little less natural snow than the others, it's that much closer to the Coast Mountains and therefore more in the rain shadow. (Ashcroft, the driest place in Canada is only an hour west of Kamloops). SS and BW are both east of Okanagan Lake and so further from the rain shadow and closer to the interior wet belt centered around Revelstoke. (Each of the major ranges has its own rain shadow area on the eastern slopes, but the coastal one is the most pronounced). Apex is west of the Valley and records about 10% less snow than BW and SS, again due to being that bit closer to the lee slope of Coast/Cascade Mountains. The three resorts are relatively close together - you can see the ski runs on the other mountains from the summit on a clear day - but there are slight differences.

So SP management sees need for snowmaking for climate reasons. But they also get other benefits at the business end. Pre season race training brings in revenue and fills beds at an otherwise dead time of year. Guests appreciate the more consistent snowbase and the groomer do a better job when they have base to work with. Resorts that don't make snow will tell you it's marketing suicide to admit you don't get sufficient natural snow, but that doesn't seem to be holding back things at SP.
 
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Just booked one night in Vancouver through StayVancouverHotels.com which had the same rate as all the other sites but you get a C$125 Visa card for the first night and C$50 each other. Had this deal a few years ago then they dropped it. We always stay at the Pan Pacific for a bit of family tradition.
If you have not booked have a look.
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Yep its vastly different down in the valley bottom. 50 cm snow and 270 mm rain annually. Apex village is 35 km by road but 1400 m higher, gets 600-650 cm of snow most winters. And 10 degrees cooler than in town most of the time.
 
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How do you guys build when half the year is snowbound?
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Are there likely to be much more crowds in Whistler on a weekend as opposed to a weekday in early January (after new year week)?
 

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Are there likely to be much more crowds in Whistler on a weekend as opposed to a weekday in early January (after new year week)?

Canadians are back to work/school on 5th January so it will be full of Aussies on weekdays and fuller with Aussies and Canadians on weekends
 

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It will be FULL and fuller on POW days!

I have great memories of skiing at Whistler. Both times were in very early April. The Easter crowds were not bad actually. This was a few years ago.
Should I just forget it and spend more time in the interior? I’m only thinking of visiting for a couple of days just to experience the hill now that we’re a bit more advanced.
 

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Easter isn't a prime weekend for Canadians. The Monday isnt an official holiday, schools, banks, govt etc. get it but not everyone. Depends a lot on how Easter lands on the calendar but most people use it to start cleaning up their yard after winter, or to get outside and enjoy spring weather. By the beginning of April hardly only the diehards are still skiing, most people are sick of winter. Just be wary of WB though, they always have their annual world ski/board festival slotted in early April so check dates to see if it lands on Easter this time around.
 

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Easter isn't a prime weekend for Canadians. The Monday isnt an official holiday, schools, banks, govt etc. get it but not everyone. Depends a lot on how Easter lands on the calendar but most people use it to start cleaning up their yard after winter, or to get outside and enjoy spring weather. By the beginning of April hardly only the diehards are still skiing, most people are sick of winter. Just be wary of WB though, they always have their annual world ski/board festival slotted in early April so check dates to see if it lands on Easter this time around.

Thanks but I’m wondering about early January this time.
 

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I’m a bit curious about weekends in the Banff area. My choices are Sunshine, LL, Revelstoke, Kicking Horse or use the weekend for travelling and sight seeing. Early Feb.
 

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Thanks but I’m wondering about early January this time.
Resorts will always br busier on weekends and Whistler is a day trip from Vancouver so you can expect that even more.
By comparison I was amazed how quiet Sun Peaks was on weekdays and not a massive increase on weekends
 

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Resorts will always br busier on weekends and Whistler is a day trip from Vancouver so you can expect that even more.
By comparison I was amazed how quiet Sun Peaks was on weekdays and not a massive increase on weekends

I’m thinking of next northern hemisphere winter - not this coming one. Weighing up Europe or Canada but will likely be Canada because of the dollar. If it is Canada I intend to check out Sun Peaks over Christmas. It sounds like a perfect hill to get our ski legs back. We’ll then move onto a couple of other interior BC areas (road trip style) before we have a couple of days in Vancouver. After the time in Vancouver (wife likes a break from skiing to let legs recover) we’ll go to Whistler or south to the Cascades. Sounds like we stick to weekdays if we do opt for Whistler.
I like to forward plan so we can jump on early airfares as they are opted cheapest.
 

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I’m thinking of next northern hemisphere winter - not this coming one. Weighing up Europe or Canada but will likely be Canada because of the dollar. If it is Canada I intend to check out Sun Peaks over Christmas. It sounds like a perfect hill to get our ski legs back. We’ll then move onto a couple of other interior BC areas (road trip style) before we have a couple of days in Vancouver. After the time in Vancouver (wife likes a break from skiing to let legs recover) we’ll go to Whistler or south to the Cascades. Sounds like we stick to weekdays if we do opt for Whistler.
I like to forward plan so we can jump on early airfares as they are opted cheapest.

I am currently planning our 20/21 and looking to be in SP early January
 

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I’m a bit curious about weekends in the Banff area. My choices are Sunshine, LL, Revelstoke, Kicking Horse or use the weekend for travelling and sight seeing. Early Feb.
I was in that area late Jan. Sunshine & LL were definitely busy at weekends had to park car way back in the car parks but didn't feel crazy on the hill. KH was quieter unless it had snowed. A lot of the hardcore locals didn't bother going up unless there had been 10+cm of fresh. Revie was relatively busy getting up the initial gondola but then people fanned out and a Saturday was fine. This was Jan 2018 wasn't there this year so could have changed a bit. To be fair none of these were even remotely busy compared to what I see at Perisher when I do go every so often in peak season
 
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I was in that area late Jan. Sunshine & LL were definitely busy at weekends had to park car way back in the car parks but didn't feel crazy on the hill. KH was quieter unless it had snowed. A lot of the hardcore locals didn't bother going up unless there had been 10+cm of fresh. Revie was relatively busy getting up the initial gondola but then people fan:thumbs:ned out and a Saturday was fine. This was Jan 2018 wasn't there this year so could have changed a bit. To be fair none of these were even remotely busy compared to what I see at Perisher when I do go every so often in peak season
Cheers. That’s the answer I wanted :thumbs:
 

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Okay brains-trust I have a question re: Canada in Feb 2020. Looking to head over with the Wifey (not a skier) for around 14 days and looking at Calgary --> Banff --> Lake Louise --> Jasper etc. (open to suggestions).

I might sneak in a cheeky ski but it'll be mainly sightseeing.

To hit up those places, at that time of year, a good idea? Best way to get around? Any other sight seeing suggestions?

Will be first time to Canada for both of us. Appreciate the input :).
 

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Okay brains-trust I have a question re: Canada in Feb 2020. Looking to head over with the Wifey (not a skier) for around 14 days and looking at Calgary --> Banff --> Lake Louise --> Jasper etc. (open to suggestions)

I might sneak in a cheeky ski but it'll be mainly sightseeing.

To hit up those places, at that time of year, a good idea? Best way to get around? Any other sight seeing suggestions?

Will be first time to Canada for both of us. Appreciate the input :).

A car is a must in my view. Just being there is sight seeing enough. Spectacular.
You need to ski those hills though.
Ice skate on Lake Louise. Johnston Canyon frozen waterfalls. Dinner at the Fairmont.
Can be chilly that time of year though.
 

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Okay brains-trust I have a question re: Canada in Feb 2020. Looking to head over with the Wifey (not a skier) for around 14 days and looking at Calgary --> Banff --> Lake Louise --> Jasper etc. (open to suggestions).

I might sneak in a cheeky ski but it'll be mainly sightseeing.

To hit up those places, at that time of year, a good idea? Best way to get around? Any other sight seeing suggestions?

Will be first time to Canada for both of us. Appreciate the input :).


What have you seen in Canada, plenty to see in the area
 

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For anyone thinking of travelling and hadnt booked airfares yet, have a look at China Airlines.
I was just looking at pricing one way Premium economy Perth to Vancouver at $1100 versus $2600 with Cathay and $4300 with Air NZ
 

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For anyone thinking of travelling and hadnt booked airfares yet, have a look at China Airlines.
I was just looking at pricing one way Premium economy Perth to Vancouver at $1100 versus $2600 with Cathay and $4300 with Air NZ

Is China on Skyscanner and the like? What dates was that for?
 

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Okay brains-trust I have a question re: Canada in Feb 2020. Looking to head over with the Wifey (not a skier) for around 14 days and looking at Calgary --> Banff --> Lake Louise --> Jasper etc. (open to suggestions).

I might sneak in a cheeky ski but it'll be mainly sightseeing.

To hit up those places, at that time of year, a good idea? Best way to get around? Any other sight seeing suggestions?

Will be first time to Canada for both of us. Appreciate the input :).
Have you booked your holiday time and flights already? If not, consider moving it back to May. Milder weather, longer days, better roads, more facilities open. You can still have your cheeky ski since LL and Sunshine stay open well into May. In Feb the sli conditions will be primo and you'll be kicking yourself over missing powder days. The Icefields Parkway is lonely and challenging in mid winter, and there's hardly anywhere to even pull off the road for a picture - too much snow.

As others have said, get a car. Public transport options very limited in western Canada outside the big cities. Splurge on one night in either Banff Springs or Chateau LL. Emerald Lake Lodge down in Field is lovely and less expensive. Between Banff and LL, take a drive on hwy 1A, the other side of the Bow River from the main Trans Canada. Slower but less traffic and more relaxing.
 
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Okay brains-trust I have a question re: Canada in Feb 2020. Looking to head over with the Wifey (not a skier) for around 14 days and looking at Calgary --> Banff --> Lake Louise --> Jasper etc. (open to suggestions).

I might sneak in a cheeky ski but it'll be mainly sightseeing.

To hit up those places, at that time of year, a good idea? Best way to get around? Any other sight seeing suggestions?

Will be first time to Canada for both of us. Appreciate the input :).

feel free to have a trundle through my trip report from last season.

We did two months driving from from Vancouver to Calgary and back

https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/gareth-and-nikkis-epic-canadian-venture.83300/
 
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