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Question Ski Instructors, need them or not?

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by DPS Driver, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    They're a very highly trained and dedicated bunch.
     
  2. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can see the commitment in their skiing and the value in the whole process is self-evident - all kudos to you APSI guys!
     
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    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    After umpteen years of sking I wanted to try snowboarding, I went to mt Selwyn hired a kit
    after one hour I could not master it, they then announced half price private lessons, i took one.
    one hour later I was on a snowboard for the next 10 years.
    Back to skis for the last 10 years.
     
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  4. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sometimes it’s such a simple tweak to get you going, but without the skill of the instructor to see it and call it in such a way that you can action it you’d be bashing your head against the metaphoric brick wall for years.

    This season for me it was linking turns with my back foot out of the binding. Ok on heel side but once I got on the toe side I couldn’t seem to control the end of the turn and transition into the start of the heelside turn. A brief “look uphill” and unweight as you slow to transition to the new turn and it all clicked.

    You’re paying for that expertise.
     
  5. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Gained heaps from my one hour private xc lesson the other day. Told me where I was going wrong, taught me new stuff, worth every cent.
     
  6. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    So they got you to anticipate with your head.
    You were lucky that they did not try to stop you from rotating into toeside.
     
  7. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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  8. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Demo teams look good from a distance. They are the true enthusiasts, but who tries to emulate them ?.
    Used to envy instructors with an accent and a table full of gals.
    Now I sometimes pity their slavery to a foreign style which has lost it's way.
    Freedom freedom freedom oy !
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I try.:rolleyes:
     
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  10. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well, thats what they tell everyone. Actually they are just talented, self taught, ten day a year skiers, with a penchant for flairy moves.

    Our instructor mate who did his L2 recently, wow, chalk and cheese. I skied with him the day before the course, and on Sunday. Totally hooked!
     
  11. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    So stoked for the 2 Buller girls.
     
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  12. parkmonkey

    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I do agree with this, they are a bunch of robots, i like skiing loose and recovery but if you are going to teach and have a consistent message and style to replicate you need everyone doing the same thing with clear and precise movements
     
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    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    IMO our (the APSI) style is not as elegant and graceful as that of the Europeans...
     
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  14. LDJ

    LDJ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    we all know that being involved in the 30 person French ski school snake is the only path to perfection skiing
     
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    crackson A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'd do privates in Austria if I could.
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Dad as an instructor ? Sometimes..
    This morning, brand new snow, but frozen.
    Dad appears with his snowboard. Sends his 4 y.o daughter up the tee alone on her skis. Ten meters up she aborts and just lets go. Hissy fit.
    Dad grumpy and they retreat.
    See her with instructor later. Instant rapport. Lift together. Fun time. Go, girl. :)
     
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    southpaw One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Hey I understood this post! Great writing keep the English classes up:D
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    So why could nobody except TP understand that ?
    Rotating into toeside is the foundation move for natural movement in both boarding and skiing.
    Professor Stephan Kruckenhauser realised this by watching how kids ski.
    So maybe kids could update our instructors ?
    [​IMG]

     
  19. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Refer to my first post in this thread :thumbs:
     
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  20. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Aiming high. No doubt free instruction from the best.
     
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    Alexander has First Runs

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    It’s awesome ay!glad you liked it haha
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    It might take a few seasons, but then you own them.
    And before that, you were quite happy in your ignorance. :)
    Bad instructors are like bad car mechanics. Leave a bad taste in your mouth.
     
  23. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Social Media Mod Ski Pass: Gold

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    If a ski instructor has left a bad taste in your mouth...
     
  24. southpaw

    southpaw One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Or a mechanic:eek:
     
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  25. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Get a good instructor. How?
    Maybe look for an ad on apartment door.
     
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    Alexander has First Runs

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    Not Free ..
    We pay for courses. The are not cheap
     
  27. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Aghast at the runaway thread that he started, DPS tries to derail it.
    More:
    Why did the snowboarder cross the road ?
    It was never his intention to do so..
     
  28. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Better than djotd.
     
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    Nidecker One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    So I'm a snowboarder, never really skied. When my daughter at 4yrs old expressed an interest in skiing, the "deal" we made with her was that she would never come riding with us EVER if she didn't agree to morning group lessons. Every morning, everytime we skied no choice.
    Skiing is a very technical sport, much like golf or tennis. It requires coaching.

    Fast forward she got into racing, so skied with coaches every weekend of her Australian winters, not to be an Olympian, or represent AUS, but so that she became a good skier.

    This year at 16yrs (12 years and 800 ish days on the snow later) she did her level 1s. It was a pretty funny few days. Rewarding all the same.
    Funniest comment though was along the lines of ..... "Shouldn't you have to be cool to be a ski instructor..I mean like some of these people can't even carry skis correctly on their shoulders." Typical teenager. :) It made me laugh but also remind her that the best teachers are not necessarily the best practitioners. They just need to be observant. I truely hope that she completes all her levels, and gives back to a sport that has given her so much, but not at the expense of a more traditional career.
     
  30. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good on her @Nidecker
    One of mine did his NZSIA 2 and APSI Ski 1 - never worked as an instructor but has given generously of his time helping friends and family and learned great technique. Despite never working he still counts it as one of the best things he has ever done.
     
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    DPS Driver One of Us

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    My eldest was a Lvl 1 instructor. Worked a couple of season but ended up mostly working with the littlies.

    Gave it away because he's 6'7" in the old scale and told me he can't possibly keep picking up littlies off the snow, they're to far to travel. He also got sick of not having a proper bed or a bedroom for that matter.
     
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    Off the back of purchasing an Epic pass, I took a look at the websites for each of the resorts on the pass, to see what the cost of lessons for mr 3.5 would be to snowboard.

    This has made me re-evaluate the cost of lessons in Perisher (and Aus in general!)

    At Whistler, for a trip in the Jan/Feb crossover period, group snowboard lessons for 3-4 year olds are $CAD225 ($AUD248) per day. Breckenridge was a whopping $USD225 ($AUD327), and Keystone only offer snowboarding lessons for youngsters in their "sem-private" groups of no more than 4, at $USD295 ($AUD430) per day! Compare and contrast with the $102 per day I paid at Perisher, and suddenly lessons in Aus seem like so much better value.
     
  33. pegasusSki

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    Dad sorts out problems in car park. Sorts sun lotion, ski hire etc, says "yes, you look great in black" and the hair is fine. Even carries a ski to avoid whinging. The day is too much for a teen to bear and will the whole thing be an abort? The boots don't go on that well, and Dad has to get on knees to assist as his BP rises....

    But then is amazed when teen then breaks free of teenage angst and laps all day with barely a break for lunch! That's my girl!
     
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