Ski purchase from Telemak Pyrenees-GST? Duty?? ?

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  1. Hot_ham on Rye

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    Hi,looking to purchase a ski/binding package from TM Pyrenees for less than $A1000.They use DHL or similar so not post which I believe has a different tax/duty application method.
    Anyone purchased from them recently ( or any os retail seller for that matter ) after the GST changes came into effect ? Do they add the GST at purchase ? Is there duty as well on this value purchase ? What %tages are these ? Any info appreciated .
     
  2. Jacko4650

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    Recently acquired some gear from them. I paid exactly what was shown on their website - the currency can be adjusted from memory. As you go to the checkout, freight is added on. There is normally a discount code as well. Seemless, delivery within 5 days. Do you work at the ATO by any chance?
     
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    Thx,I'm interested in the GST/duty side of things though.So did you end up paying GST ? Duty ? if so how ?
    I can't believe that I couldn't find this out exactly via google,so I thought I would ask here...
    and ATO ? haha no,I wish -I would probably be wealthier !
     
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    Seller should add GST at checkout if under 1K. No duty under 1K.

    Over 1K, GST and duty are paid on arrival in Australia. The one time I had to do this, the courier company texted me, I sent back my email address and they emailed an invoice. When I paid the invoice, the goods were released for delivery.

    If TP don't add GST at checkout, I'd be expecting a text or email from DHL.

    And make sure they don't charge euro VAT.
     
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    Okay,good info here...so I'm guessing that one way or another I better factor in 10 % GST.I'm looking at the same setup avail. in Oz and just trying to compare apples with apples (read planks with planks ! )
    Anyone else who has directly dealt with TP ? and what was your GST experience ...........And yes thx for the VAT reminder-on test order I did online,it has been taken off..
     
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    To be perfectly honest, I assumed GST was added like it is for any other purchase. The price on the screen matched the amount charged to my credit card and since it was a personal expense, I didn't even bother to print the invoice and note the GST amount. Hence, I cannot confirm details. I logged back in to check, but it was no clearer as to whether GST had been collected (by them) and on-charged (to me)? The billing was for $570 plus $60 shipping, so under the threshold for Duty as described by Marty. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful?
     
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  7. Hot_ham on Rye

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    No,you're quite helpful for sure.I just phoned a freight forwarder here in Oz and he said,no duty under 1k and he suggested that unless they charge GST at invoice time when ordering,it would probably slip under the radar over here ! So good,I hope my ski's fly in low haha
     
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    Have received orders from UK and Germany for approximately $500 and $800, both had VAT removed and went through customs without GST being added. However a purchase made through Level 9 had GST added at checkout.

    I think it might just be pot luck if customs hits you with GST for orders under $1000.
     
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  9. Hot_ham on Rye

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    Yep,I'm defin getting the impression its pot luck with that,if I save the 100 bucks I can always take #1 out for a nice dinner :)
     
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    Otherwise snags and salad...! ( or Hot_ham on Rye )
     
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    I think if you sell below a certain volume you don’t attract gst to your sales.
     
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    Rings a bell,although with the sales volume TP must have,I imagine they would be over any threshhold....
     
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    Sales volume to Australia? Would be pretty small.
     
  14. Hot_ham on Rye

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    Yeah of course,its probably only Aust sales volume............
    Still they have a good reputation over here and elsewhere and in the past have met buyers from them over here.What is the required volume anyway ?
     
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    Last time I looked, the general threshhold for registration for GST was $75K turnover. Wouldn't be hard for TP to exceed that.

    But there is an element of pot luck. I had a $1750 parcel come in 18 months ago without triggering a GST & duty bill.

    When I said to expect a communication from DHL in my earlier post, it was more along the lines of prepare for the worst but hope for the best.
     
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    I’m gonna submit a list of suppliers I don’t want forumites to buy from. Time to start those negative reviews again. Telemark Pyrenees are shite didn’t you know? Amazon and Ebay? - just awesome!
     
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  18. Hot_ham on Rye

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    Haha but its a real online buyers global landscape now.15 years ago I would have never believed that I would have bought so much online.I've bought some expensive stuff too-specialist alloy wheels from the states,skis and so on.Not to mention Ebay from where I buy lots.Not s/h gear much or from private sellers.I have never had a bad experience but as one of Murphy's laws says " If you think everythings going okay,you dont have a hellav an idea whats going on "
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    My experience with TP last year pay changes was no GST collected by TP at checkout or later and being under $1k passed straight through Australian Customs. Goods shipped at same time from USA via MyUs.com had 10 % gst charged and collected by MyUs.
    What I suspect is happening is that ATO is forcing larger online retailers and on shippers to enter arrangements with ATO and collect GST. Goods from other retailers are having $1k threshold applied at point of entry.
     
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    I haven't imported anything since the new rules have been put in place but now for low value good (< AUD1000) if the company that is selling you the good sell more than AUD75,000 to Australians in any 12 months, they need to register with our ATO and charge GST (lol) but if the value is over $1000 then they don't and GST will be charged to you at the aust border.

    https://www.ato.gov.au/business/international-tax-for-business/gst-on-low-value-imported-goods/

    I don't think the ATO really thought this one through very well.
    I'd assume that if you didn't see any GST on the order then none has been added. If it's < $1000 bucks then it's all good.
     
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    It’s not that they didn’t think it through, it’s more the fact that they’re “hopeful” that a company from another country will comply and then pay them the gst.......... so in a nutshell, the overseas company is doing nothing wrong or illegal, The ATO want them to do more work for no money and on top of that send a nice lump sum to this ATO company they’ve never heard of.
     
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  22. Hot_ham on Rye

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    My new skis arrived in 4 days from France and net of gst.I guess I owe the missus a dinner out as promised above.....;)
    Fantastic service from TP.I had to have some communication about my purchase and would give them 10 out of 10 on this front.Packaging also fantastic,super tough.All in all great deal.Thanks all for your comments !
     
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    No duty on skis ( or snowboards ) no matter what the value ,, as above if the seller sells over $70 k ( 75 ?) to Australia then they must register and collect GST for shipments under AUD 1,000 ,, over threshold tax will apply but it is a bit of a lottery with express ( DHL , TNT etc ) allways a good idea to check or have someone check what the express people are charging for duty/ tax as they are often incorrect