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Ski training gym

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by alex_masolov, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. alex_masolov

    alex_masolov Hard Yards

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    Woudn't mind to pay money for such gym in Sydney. I tried it a few years ago in Europe and was very impressed. The experience is completely different from skiing and snowboarding but helps a lot to build a proper technique.

    http://www.skytechsport.com/

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  2. gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    what are the nets on each end for.

    They catch your body bits as they are torn off?
     
  3. gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    their website isn't much cop.

    Isn't configured properly - very amateur
     
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    I'm a PT here in Sydney. For many people looking to get ski fit, getting your glutes aka butt cheeks to "switch on" is/should be a major part of your training. This on top of direct core work (no, not sit ups) and mobility work would be a great off/pre season program for the gym. The machine above looks cool though. But think about it, if your body's biomechanics aren't working the way they should, do you recon focusing on your technique alone will improve your skiing? most likely not.
     
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    Could you recommend a few basic exercises to this endl; deep squats, plyometrics?
     
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    chriscross One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Swedish xc ski training vid on U tube is worth a look. Starts off with single leg squats.
     
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    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Half a dozen sets of legblasters over about 45mins. Every other day, 3x/week for 3 weeks leading up to ski trip. Brings tears to the eyes. Otherwise just buy a pair of inline skates.
     
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    Chowder11 Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just a few.
    Legs -
    Front squats (less experienced people squat better with the weight on the front).
    Walking lunges.
    Box Jumps.
    Wall squats with a swiss ball. Hold in the seated 90 degree position to get the burrrrrrn on.

    Core -
    Any form of hanging knee raise's, front, side, straight legged, one leg at a time.
    Planks, side planks.
    Cable chops, twists.



    Avoid static one motion machines in the gym. They are for meatheads who want nothing but superficial muscle pumps.
     
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  10. Adamski

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    Thanks, I never go near machines. Free weights only for me.
     
  11. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never go near weights either.... cycling, surfing, swimming...... keep it real and outdoors
     
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    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    Might rip off a few of those sets later tonight....
     
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    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    My plan with the demise of in2ski is in-line skates for a few months pre-season.
     
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    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    Roller blade style or the ski style?

    I have a perfect bike path locally for them. Interested to see how you go.
     
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    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I use rollar blades w sticks, big diameter wheels.
    Occasionally skikes for tracks, but they don't carve like blades.
     
  16. Adamski

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    Don't have a bike, can't surf and find doing laps of pool quite tedious. I do play soccer though.
     
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    You would be extremely surprised the added performance you would get with a designed overload strength program for your lower body and core.
    Even tour riders do gym specific strengthening programs. I had a mate who rode the tour and I was surprised in the amount of gym work they did, i just thought they rode their bikes for a long time all the time.
    Downhill skiers don't get those massive legs from just skiing a lot.
    Freestyle skiers do that much core work also to help them stablise in the air and on landing.
    Jon Olsen is a massive crossfit man, and he reckons that helps his skiing big time.
    You need to build up the muscles in the legs to assist and protect the knee ligaments.
    Look at Russ Henshaw, he rode the Olympics without an ACL due to the muscle strength in his legs protecting/assisting his knees.

    Average Joe's are usually happy just doing what they enjoy, which is great if that's all you want, but those wanting improvements in the "offseason" a decent overload program which stuck to with discipline is a great way to improve your overall ski fitness.
     
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  18. FatBoyDave

    FatBoyDave One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    If anyone has a ski training program (or a link to one) they want to share. I'm all ears.

    In past years I've tried rollerblading and clocking up k's on the bike to prep for that Northern hemisphere trip. It all helps...
    Unfortunately most of the local bike tracks aren't maintained with blading in mind, so they're no longer that beautiful smooth asphalt they once were.. Tree roots on the bike track are not the rollerbladers friend.

    The past 8 weeks I've been doing Metafit HIIT training 3 times a week. I feel leaner (although haven't lost any weight) but not sure if this sort of training will match the endurance that I got with the bike riding.
     
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    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I saw a video ages ago and can't find it - it was on a British package ski Holiday site and it talked about attempting to do a slow plow in socks on the kitchen floor (smoothly!) as a good way to figure out who to turn on and off the right muscles for skiing.
     
  20. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm sure that if I did specific exercises I could get massive. But as I enjoy cycling, surfing and swimming all year round and maintain a high level of fitness, I don't really see the need to do anything specific. Skiing, cycling, surfing and swimming are all recreation activities that I enjoy but don't obsess about.

    Most people here who are looking for a ski specific exercise program don't generally maintain a high level of fitness and are looking for a quick fix before their ski holiday. I don't need nor want that.
     
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    Alpine ski racers are built like rugby forwards...they do plenty of weight training.

    See the Svindal video, he does that shit 4x/week.
     
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    You will build lean muscle pretty quickly if your diet is pretty good doing these style of HIIT trainings.
    Muscle weighs 3 times as much as fat, so you probably have lost good amounts of fat and built muscle.
    Go by the mirror not the scales. Clothing fit is another good judgment of the changing body shape.
     
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    FatBoyDave One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    The mirror does not lie.

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    Self perception however.....
     
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    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Where do you live? Good tracks in Melbourne.
     
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    Chowder11 Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I live In Elwood.
    See quite alot of people rollerblading along Elwood up to Port Melbourne along the beach tracks
     
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    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm in St Kilda East, usually go down canal through Elwood and then either R or L around bay depending on wind direction. If you want a bit of downhill then there's good inclines (only need 5-10%) in Royal Park or Fitzroy Gardens.
     
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    Tele action :thumbs:
     
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    FatBoyDave One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I'm in Yarraville. A recent audit by Bicycle Network found that my stellar local council spends 91 cents per person each year on bicycle infrastructure, compared with say $16.21 for the city of Yarra or $10.50 for the city of Port Phillip.

    Souce: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/r...-paths-as-a-big-turn-off-20151130-glbjzx.html

    For rollerblading, I've previously used Port Melbourne to St.Kilda or a few years ago, trained blading from Port Melbourne to Warrigul Rd return along the Yarra.
     
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    @Ozgirl There's a few around
    here are a couple from Warren Smith Academy (search for more on You tube)


     
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    Yessum. Need stronger legs.
     
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    I'd do the rollerblades.

    There's an outfit at Centennial Park (and Manly) that does pre-season ski training on on-line skates. They recommend using the shorter wheelbase stuff. I plan to start around late Feb.
     
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    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah thats the one lateral control!

    Thanks :)
     
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    So much to think about...
     
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    These SkiActiv exercise machines show promise for skiers here in Australia.

    These European machines are known as pro-ski simulator in Europe, and are branded as SkiActiv here in Australia by their distributor URBN SKI.

    Nominate your Gym is URBN SKI's active campaign to allow alpine skiers to nominate their local gyms for adopting them, i.e no need to buy out right.



    I've tried skytechsport machines before trying these and I can honestly say the following about SkiActiv:
    • Not sophisticated: Non-motorised more economic for a gym/home setting to own and maintain
    • Deliver similar results: improving carving skills, physical conditioning, maintains fitness and for rehab purposes.
    • Visual Feedback: Trainer can spot you better, and you’ll get visual feedback with the help of a fixed wall mirror.
    • Training: Due to their smaller size and portability, you can be in session class training or private training.
    • Modular: Ski boots on or with your runners ? There are interchangeable option plates to allow for that. Snowboard ? No problem, there is a plate for that too. Very easy to interchange. Some option plates come with built in smarts, to link them up with Virtual Reality simulators.
     
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    I've tried skytechsport in Sydney. Now there is SkiActiv. Check out the video below.

    Nominate your Gym is the Australian distributor's (URBN SKI's) active campaign to allow alpine skiers to nominate their local gyms for adopting them, i.e no need to buy outright.

     
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    zac150 A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    @DidSurfNowSki and I have been hitting the ski erg, just finished 20km (500m splits) in 1:30:33 just over 2:16 splits. Last week we did 16km in 1:14:33, so our pacing put us about 750m+ in front.
     
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    I need to go and lay down...
     
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    I've got one of those old style slick mats for Telemark training. As I'll never get it right does anybody want want it?
    I think I paid $60- a long time ago
     
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    I made one of these to help with balance, https://www.indoboard.com/ with a length of ply and PVC pipe with tape over it. Have seen people use with a ball under also.
     
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