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Guide Skins - That's how you do it.

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by DPS Driver, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    "That's how you do it" is the title of this pic. I must admit, it is a cool way to take off your skins and also quite a lot easier with Contour skins. Nice skis too. can I get a show of hands for the skin removalists with skis on people.
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  2. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    Have done it, rarely do
    i'm too inflexible
    skis too long
    it's always fkn windy
     
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    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not a hope in Hades. 12 yo G3 skins are a constant wrestle and the object of much cursing.
     
  4. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    I still walk with a limp after my last attempt
     
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    Olgreg One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Glad to see these responses . The one time I tried it I aggravated bits of me that had not previously hurt :(
     
  6. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I do.
    You don’t need to be that flexible, I’m not.
     
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    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Geeze...... I struggle with a kick turn.
     
  8. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah I had the knack way back I've just forgotten how the hell I did it. That and it's really hard from the couch
     
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    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    I like to sit down, rest and take in the view when transitioning.
    Yoga is not my specialty.
     
  10. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL

    Stuff that!

    Not sure I could swap sides reconnect the board and switch the bindings without taking my feet out anyway - so may as well remove the skins without snapping a hammy!
     
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  11. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Now and then, it helps if I have the correct skins for the job on.

    It's a bit hard when dps don't give you a slot in the ski tip for proper race skins.
     
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  12. Chaeron

    Chaeron A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    No chance! Too inflexible, plus its normally windy!
     
  13. Any

    Any One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Post is not really a guide on doing it ?

    I've removed skins this way a couple of times, with a stopwatch to compare/etc.
    But two issues with it,
    - When im removing skins im usually stopping for a break anyway, so Im already about to take my skis off. so its rather pointless.
    - I absolutely hate sticking my skins to themselves, cheatsheet or skin savers all the way. doing the flick thing often end up sticking skins together or even worse getting them dirty.
     
  14. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    You're using the wrong skins. Get on to Contour.
     
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  15. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Yes the mongrels. Write them a stern letter.
     
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    Any One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    ive never even touched them, but its just silicon based glue rather than liquefied horses?
    this will still stick together and any dirt or debris will still become a pain. so it sounds like i'll still need to be as careful.
    because i look after my skins and glue so well ive never had a problem with multiple ascents. tho that one time in deep pow, with strong winds, at -15, my 6th lap was looking to be the limit of my skins.

    i also forgot, when i whip my skins off they slide along the edges of my skis too. this always gave me pause. i regularly cut my fingers on them.

    next pair of skins i might try them tho.
    never liked g3 skins. and my black diamonds have a habit of sliding off my twin tip tails.

    unless you're in a sexy flanders lycra body suit I still dont see the point of doing a fancy euro tour racer style skin removal every time tho :p
     
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  17. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    They're really good, because you can actually stick them together without mesh and they will come apart easily. Not that I do that but if in a hurry it's handy.

    I'm like you and have always been fussy with my skins but Contour makes being fussy super easy. Dirt and crap can just wash off the skin with soapy water or the Contour skin cleaner, leave them for 5 minutes in the sun and they're brand new again. The glue is actually two separate sheets the first sheet is designed to stick to the skin and the second sheet is designed to stick to your skis. They peel off easily but never dislodge on the skin track, in deep pow or wet snow.

    The thread was just a bit of fun. I mostly take my skis off and have a breather too but if doing fast laps I'll leave 'em on and do the flick.

    Most of my guiding mates have moved across to them.
     
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  18. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    Don’t you folks just fold them in on themselves and stick them inside your jacket?
     
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    Any One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    is a good way to wear your skins out and/or the glue real quick. or so i hear, i never do it.
    ive actually seen someone rip their skins trying to get them apart again. pulling real hard on that last 20cm, suddenly pop, they come apart, and have snapped in two exactly at the half way point. duct tape and ski straps to the rescue.

    with the transition away from glue I was half expecting a reebok pump style of skins that vacuum suck stick to your skis instead ;P
     
  20. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    I fold tip and tail to half way line then roll up.
    I've never really had any issues pulling them apart, it was a bit hard first few times maybe.
    Bugger fluffing around with sheets in the wind, just another set of things to manage in the pack and at transitions.
     
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    blowfin One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I've settled on this too, cheat sheets back on at the end of the day, or the trip. Learnt the hard way this year to keep my goggles out of the compartment I put the skin bag in.

    The move in the OP isn't one for splitboarders, unless you have superb splitboard skiiing skills, and want to blow someone's mind LOL For me however, it would be clumsy layered on clumsy.
     
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  22. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Love my glueless, whatever brand they are skins, so easy. Seems like they should not work, but they do. I fold them on themselves, store that way too, still going strong after 3 seasons of occasional use, still work sopping wet too.
     
  23. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    It isn't a transition away from glue. It is glue but in sheet form not hot melt.
     
  24. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Yes. Only put the mesh on at the end of the day.
     
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    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    rowdyflat One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Done it always for 30 years . Just lift the ski as the skin comes off. .
    Never used mesh or sheets just fold skins back on themselves.Simple is best.
    BUT dont use dumb US style skins with a back tensioner use Euro style ie rubber clippy thing on the front+ just a hook at the back .
    Recent purchase of kicker skins its not so easy.
     
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  27. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have BD kicker skins and have found them to be very useful. What is the best way to store them during Green season?. I use the BD cheat sheets and keep them in my ski bag.
     
  28. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    In the wine cellar or fridge.
     
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    rowdyflat One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I just leave them folded back on themselves somewhere not too hot over summer.
    Cheat sheets are better.
    i think the most important things is take them out of drying rooms as soon as they are dry ie that evening and wipe the ski bases with your hand to remove dust/dirt in .spring before applying.
     
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    Howdy, quick Q,

    Do Contour skins grip or glide better than the rest? Or just a good compromise? Are they any lighter?

    Fwiw: I found G3 - Alpinist (red) skins really grippy on firm icy snow & spring corn but also a bit lacking glide after kickers (der!) and a tad heavy.

    Are Contour skins available in Oz? Or is it a case of going online to Backcountry.com et al?

    Are BD FL Mohair skins (guidelite?) or a similar Pomoca worth looking at?

    Cheers all.
     
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    Chaeron A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    https://blisterreview.com/category/gear-reviews/ski-reviews/climbing-skins

    Mohair - better grip, less glide generally.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    WS in Jindy stocks Contour.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Chaeron A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes I think so.

    Mohair good for flatter Aussie hills (& in kickers) but wears out more quickly.

    No such thing as a perfect compromise!!

    Not even in a Subaru Liberty!!
     
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  37. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Yes Contour skins are available from Wilderness Sports in Jindabyne and from Rhythm and from Harros ( Harros stock now in Japan).

    They glide well, dependent on snow conditions, dependent on intended use re location, temps etc and type of Contour skin you purchase. In Australia we've gone with a 70% Mohair 30% nylon mix which suits our conditions, stands up to wet snow as well if not better than most. The 70/30 mix gives you a good mix of durability and glide across a broad range of conditions. They're a touch lighter but not enough to write home about.

    Unless you are specifically, riding really wet conditions or racing or whatever as a go anywhere reliable skin Contour is hard to beat. The real value with Contour hybrid mix is the glue technology, easy on, easy off and no hot melt issues. You don't need to be Arnie Swartzenegger to pull them apart. They're just a more user friendly product than G3, BD or Pomoca.

    One of my good mates who runs a guiding business in Japan said to me, that they're less work when doing laps, which after a few climbs a day really does pay dividends. He and his guides use the Hybrid mix in Japan, as I have and they work really well over there. Likewise in Canada. Quite versatile. best skin I've ever used.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes heaps, great thanks DPS - Merry Xmas!
     
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