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Question Sleeping Bags!

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by keys'n'skis, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. keys'n'skis

    keys'n'skis First Runs

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    Ok so this isn't the first bag/tent/mat thread here, and I know it won't be the last :)
    But I'd be heaps grateful if anyone has used these and can provide data.

    I have narrowed down 3 bags for Main Range use, as well as occasional OS trips (looking at -15 temps)

    1. Mont Spindrift 850. 1.4kg and -13 at $950
    2. Sea2Summit Alp2. 1.3kg and -12 at $760
    3. Macpac Epic 800. 1.3kg and -10 at $630

    I know all three will do the job and all are almost "overkill" for Aus, but what could explain the $300+ price difference? The weight and rating is almost identical.

    Safe or not to just get the cheapest one?
    Thanks!
     
  2. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Better quality down. 850 loft in the expensive one. Means you are getting more fill volume for the same weight.
     
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  3. r.kenno

    r.kenno Hard Yards

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    Have been using the spindrift for the last five years on trips and couldn't be happier with it. Very warm and good quality bag
     
  4. rowdyflat

    rowdyflat One of Us

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    Just as important is how the bags fit your body shape ie how tall / wide are you ?
    Will you wear booties or a down jacket inside when it is really cold ? I have at times.
    How good are your tent and sleeping mat ?
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Likewise with the spindrift. I prefer not to sleep in lots of clothes and this bag is toastie enough. My partner has the telemark which is warmer again but she sleeps a bit colder than me.
     
  6. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have the Telemark, great bag. If you can get to Canberra when Mont have their sales, you can pick the bags up at wholesale, around $500 or so.
     
  7. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    We've got the S2S APIII, very warm bags but bulky. Have been toasty warm all winter in the tent.
     
  8. legend

    legend One of Us

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    You also need to ask the question - are you a warm or cold sleeper?
    I'm a very cold one, so I go for the warmest possible bag. Others get away with a -5º bag and are too hot.
    If possible lay the three bags out at the same time. Look at the loft of the bags, the thicker the loft the warmer the bag. Also are you a back or side sleeper? A side sleeper needs a roomier bag due to the way they spread out. Get in them and see how much wriggle room you have (with a silk inner).
     
  9. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have a S2S Latitude III and its warm and comfortable. I am 178cm and 78kg. Medium sleeper. I paid $580 for it on special at Paddy Palin two years ago. Easter sale.
     
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    hpsauce A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'd look at the weight of the fill as well as the overall weight of bag. e.g. One brand may use heavier nylon and less down. Others may use lighter weight nylon and more down packed in.
    Also, some may have more features like zippers or pockets which add a few grams. But can pay off big time in terms of livability.
    So I take all that into account.

    I wouldnt be surprised if Mont uses a heavier grade/weight Nylon shell.
    In general, S2S kit seems to be top shelf design and construction.
    Macpac variable
     
  11. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mont have a Hydranuat shell.
     
  12. rowdyflat

    rowdyflat One of Us

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    Generally my problem is I get cold sitting around even with a down parka and booties and it takes 1-2 hrs to get too warm I have a close fitting bag , so then have to cool down.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I snow camp using an EXPED comfort 800 duck down sleeping bag, the extra long one for us long humans. I know it will keep me warm.
     
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    Ignore temp ratings. Go by lofted thickness. If they don’t publish it don’t buy it.
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Western Mountaineering Versalite 850 would be my choice for that temp range. Best weight for warmth available.
     
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  17. keys'n'skis

    keys'n'skis First Runs

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    Thanks everyone!

    Decided to get a lighter Macpac bag for spring skiing and will look into Mont/Western Mountaineering for next winter when it comes around.
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I do like my quiver of sleeping bags.
     
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    Wheres Walle Addicted

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    I've got a Sea to Summit Talus, weighs about 1.2KG, 700G of 750 fill down. I sleep a little cold, and find it's just enough to sleep well through the coldest nights in Aus conditions (-10~) when i've got merino layers and a down jacket on. I've got a mate with the exact same bag, and he's often in just base layers in the same conditions and warm.

    I think that bag is discontinued now, but looking at the Alpine 2, it's got 200G more down than the Talus, at 850 fill power vs 750 - so that would be more than enough for anything you could do in Australia, and would have to keep you warm to somewhere between -15/20.

    It's always nice to have a bit more warmth than you need when snow camping, can get real cold in no time at all sitting around boiling water after dark when the winds up.
     
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