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Snowbasin, Sun Valley join Epic Pass

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by absentskier, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. absentskier

    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Noooooo.
     
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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Another nail in Mountain Collective's coffin?
     
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    Maybe. But they’ve committed to this Southern Hemisphere winter and the next Nth Hemisphere winter.
     
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    Brimmo Hard Yards

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    A big nail in Snowbasin's coffin IMO!
     
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    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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    This. Especially Ikon. Especially given recent rumours that Alterra may be buying Jackson Hole.
     
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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I doubt it.
     
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    Depends on your perspective.
     
  10. Seth

    Seth Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Why?
     
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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    What do you think Snowbasin’s perspective is?
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Probably referring to crowds.

    But we had the best Snowbasin years just after the Olympics when the infrastructure was brand new and nobody knew about it. I'm told it's not the deserted 5* resort we knew, that party is long over.
     
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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can’t see it making a huge difference. Sure, it’ll be busier for a couple of seasons but I suspect it will largely go back to normal. Interestingly, the two biggest Epic resorts, Whistler and Park City, have been down on numbers this year.
     
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    Seth Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    That’s a shame.
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    They've even put all the good stuff on the trail map. For shame.
     
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    Yep, I skied it when nobody knew about it. Easiest way to get good terrain and the best of Utah's snow without the crowds. Sounds like the horse has bolted since then.
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep that’s a serious network from a ‘feeder’ perspective.
     
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    MarzNC One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Not exactly. These are not all "smaller resorts." In particular Mount Snow is a relatively large full service resort that draws from both Boston and New York City. Liberty, Whitetail, Roundtop serve the Washington DC and Baltimore region, which includes a lot of people who fly west for ski trips at least once a season. Those three were sold to Peak Resorts in late 2018. They are very, very busy on weekends. The mid-Altantic (PA, VA, southern NY) is a region that has been hoping for an aquisition by VR or Alterra for a while.

    The impact on Aussie Epic passholders may be increased crowds at the W-B and VR resorts in Tahoe and the Rockies.
     
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    MarzNC One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    For those curious about the Peak Resorts in the U.S. northeast, read on.

    Mount Snow, Attitash/Wildcat, and Crotched serve the Boston market. Folks from NYC/NJ drive to Hunter and Mount Snow, but not NH. All have at least one high-speed quad that goes to the top of a peak. Folks in CT are more likely to drive to Mt. Snow but advanced skiers could be enticed to make the drive to North Conway for a weekend to ski at Wildcat. Lots of fun non-skiing stuff to do in the North Conway area.

    Mt. Snow, in southern VT (4 hours from NYC/NJ)
    Hunter Mountain, in the Catskills, NY (3 hours from NYC/NJ)
    Attitash/Wildcat, near North Conway, NH
    Crotched, NH (under 2 hour drive from Boston)

    I think of Mt. Snow, Hunter, and Wildcat as “big mountains” for the northeast. Have skied a day or two at Hunter and Wildcat but not Mt. Snow. Peak Resorts has spent a lot of time, effort, and money on major capital improvements at Mt. Snow since they bought it in 2007. That includes a fair amount of slopeside lodging. Hunter is also a full resort with relatively new slopeside lodging. Hunter typically starts snowmaking early and is one of the first to open in the region.

    Wildcat was paired with Attitash after Peak bought it in 2007. Attitash has walk in/out lodging. It’s possible to buy a day ticket for Wildcat/Attitash and ski at both on the same day. Or stick to Attitash if high winds or low visibility make Wildcat less inviting for someone who buys a day ticket online in advance. They are about 20 min apart on dry roads. Wildcat skis big because of the vertical and the main lift from base to summit is a high-speed quad. Also has fantastic views of Mt. Washington on a clear day. Experts love the fact that Wildcat leaves a lot of trails ungroomed after a snowstorm. Attitash is a better place for beginners and families with young kids just getting started with snowsports. At least that was my impression during an early season visit in Dec 2018. I only spent a couple hours at Attitash but that was enough to ride all the lifts and get a sense of the two peaks.

    Crotched is popular with folks from Boston for night skiing and race leagues. It's small but does have slopeside lodging.

    Mt. Snow: 1700 ft vertical, 600 acres, 480 acres snowmaking; full resort
    Hunter: 1600 ft vertical, 320 acres, 100% snowmaking; resort
    Wildcat: 2100 ft vertical, 225 acres, 200 acres snowmaking; ski area
    Attitash: 1750 ft vertical, 311 acres (2 peaks), 240 acres snowmaking; resort
    Crotched: 1000 ft vertical, 100 acres, 100% snowmaking; resort