Question Snowshoe and Snowplay Vic

Aidan McDonald

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Hi all, hoping someone can help out with a bit of local knowlege around the Vic alpine region

We are keen skiers however we wanted to do something different this year with the kids (6 and 8 yrs old) and go for a snowshoe, take some lunch and have a play in the snowgums somewhere. We'd prefer something away from a resort and away from crowds if we can.

Can anyone suggest a good place that might fit the bill?

We're in Victoria, and so-far we're thinking it is a choice between:
Somewhere around Lake Mountain
Mt Saint Gwinear
Or more resort-style:
Mt Stirling
Mt Baw Baw

Thanks in advance,
Aidan
 

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Lake Mountain suits everything you want, except "away from a resort and away from crowds if we can."
May I suggest Lake Mountain's 'twin' mountain, Mt Margaret. It's just snow in the bush - not national park, so you can even take your dog if you want. Mt Margaret is at 1200m, while LM is at 1330m, so you need a good fall of snow at LM to be confident of snow at Mt Margaret. But you get it several times a year for several days at a time.
And it's so close to Melbourne.
 

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Hi all, hoping someone can help out with a bit of local knowlege around the Vic alpine region

We are keen skiers however we wanted to do something different this year with the kids (6 and 8 yrs old) and go for a snowshoe, take some lunch and have a play in the snowgums somewhere. We'd prefer something away from a resort and away from crowds if we can.

Can anyone suggest a good place that might fit the bill?

We're in Victoria, and so-far we're thinking it is a choice between:
Somewhere around Lake Mountain
Mt Saint Gwinear
Or more resort-style:
Mt Stirling
Mt Baw Baw

Thanks in advance,
Aidan


Like Teckel said: can add a few other but further away than Mt Marg/Lake Mtn.

Mt Matlock 1330m (near Woods Point) via Cuberland Jnctn. Wait until a Good fall.
Mt Torbrek 1520m near Eildon /Alexanrda - off Eildon/Jamieson Rd.
Mt Skene 1570m on the Jamieson to Licola Rd often has good snow but gated in winter -need to check with shires/VicPol/DELWP to confirm access & gate status.
Snowy Plains (up to 1720m) very large area by Vic STDs - almost inexhaustible area for snow play/shoe/camping/snow drive & skiing providing there's been decent snow from South/Southeast - can be quite lean some years as common NW systems are almost dry as they hit region.
Can have very heavy snow after a jackpot system - ask Heyfield DELWP for road status.
In ave snow - lost Plain (1470m) is a good place to 'play'. In very good snow Tamboritha Saddle (1280m)
Would be the black to stop & play.

** All these spots can be quite lonely and isolated - best done in a 4WD with chains handy if needed and by a driver with snow exp. Even better have Invite a buddy with another 4WD along - JIC.

All above areas can be good fun but can be hell in the middle of a bug dump -ESP if you are unprepared/inexperienced or both.

So, as you can see, the easiest /safest approach is to head LMTn, Stirling, BBaw or Gwinear, even though all but Gwinear will charge you 50-60$. All 4 will have (the latter maybe not on every midweek day) Road clearing, info, first aid, toilets, a shelter, and a ranger or mtn ops people to speak to.

Simple eh?

Oh and watch the forecast - might as well hook the kids in by choosing a good day.
 

snowgum

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Hi all, hoping someone can help out with a bit of local knowlege around the Vic alpine region

We are keen skiers however we wanted to do something different this year with the kids (6 and 8 yrs old) and go for a snowshoe, take some lunch and have a play in the snowgums somewhere. We'd prefer something away from a resort and away from crowds if we can.

Can anyone suggest a good place that might fit the bill?

We're in Victoria, and so-far we're thinking it is a choice between:
Somewhere around Lake Mountain
Mt Saint Gwinear
Or more resort-style:
Mt Stirling
Mt Baw Baw

Thanks in advance,
Aidan


Like Teckel said: can add a few other but further away than Mt Marg/Lake Mtn.

Mt Matlock 1330m (near Woods Point) via Cuberland Jnctn. Wait until a Good fall.
Mt Torbrek 1520m near Eildon /Alexanrda - off Eildon/Jamieson Rd.
Mt Skene 1570m on the Jamieson to Licola Rd often has good snow but gated in winter -need to check with shires/VicPol/DELWP to confirm access & gate status.
Snowy Plains (up to 1720m) very large area by Vic STDs - almost inexhaustible area for snow play/shoe/camping/snow drive & skiing providing there's been decent snow from South/Southeast - can be quite lean some years as common NW systems are almost dry as they hit region.
Can have very heavy snow after a jackpot system - ask Heyfield DELWP for road status.
In ave snow - lost Plain (1470m) is a good place to 'play'. In very good snow Tamboritha Saddle (1280m)
Would be the black to stop & play.

** All these spots can be quite lonely and isolated - best done in a 4WD with chains handy if needed and by a driver with snow exp. Even better have Invite a buddy with another 4WD along - JIC.

All above areas can be good fun but can be hell in the middle of a bug dump -ESP if you are unprepared/inexperienced or both.

So, as you can see, the easiest /safest approach is to head LMTn, Stirling, BBaw or Gwinear, even though all but Gwinear will charge you 50-60$. All 4 will have (the latter maybe not on every midweek day) Road clearing, info, first aid, toilets, a shelter, and a ranger or mtn ops people to speak to.

Simple eh?

Oh and watch the forecast - might as well hook the kids in by choosing a good day.
 

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Oh dear, my bad, not sure what happened? Seemed like one post (press of reply). Doh!

(Skulking of into shadows in shame). (/:-0/
 
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I've tried to snow shoe on Mt Torbrek and put simply, it's just too rocky. Even in deep soft snow, walking is easier than snow shoeing.

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Like Teckel said: can add a few other but further away than Mt Marg/Lake Mtn.

Mt Matlock 1330m (near Woods Point) via Cuberland Jnctn. Wait until a Good fall.
Mt Torbrek 1520m near Eildon /Alexanrda - off Eildon/Jamieson Rd.
Mt Skene 1570m on the Jamieson to Licola Rd often has good snow but gated in winter -need to check with shires/VicPol/DELWP to confirm access & gate status.
Snowy Plains (up to 1720m) very large area by Vic STDs - almost inexhaustible area for snow play/shoe/camping/snow drive & skiing providing there's been decent snow from South/Southeast - can be quite lean some years as common NW systems are almost dry as they hit region.
Can have very heavy snow after a jackpot system - ask Heyfield DELWP for road status.
In ave snow - lost Plain (1470m) is a good place to 'play'. In very good snow Tamboritha Saddle (1280m)
Would be the black to stop & play.

** All these spots can be quite lonely and isolated - best done in a 4WD with chains handy if needed and by a driver with snow exp. Even better have Invite a buddy with another 4WD along - JIC.

All above areas can be good fun but can be hell in the middle of a bug dump -ESP if you are unprepared/inexperienced or both.

So, as you can see, the easiest /safest approach is to head LMTn, Stirling, BBaw or Gwinear, even though all but Gwinear will charge you 50-60$. All 4 will have (the latter maybe not on every midweek day) Road clearing, info, first aid, toilets, a shelter, and a ranger or mtn ops people to speak to.

Simple eh?

Oh and watch the forecast - might as well hook the kids in by choosing a good day.
Mt..Skene is shut during winter unless you get a permit from 4WD VIC. and go in a 4 x 4 convoy. Getting stuck in the snow became too common and the powers that be now lock the gate in winter. I would like to scout it out next green season for XC skiing and see how far the gate is on the Jamieson side to the summit area.
Mt.Torbreck is amazing after a heavy snow fall but visibility on the summit can be interesting .Take wheel chains in case Snobb's Ck. Road is under ice/ snow.
ice  on the trees  at  Mt  Torbreck 27.7.16.jpg

I am attaching a photo from my winter trip up Mt.Torbreck a few seasons back.(27.7/16).
From Mt.Margaret Gap the locked winter gate on Lady Talbot road can be snow bound after a monster snowfall. Take chains and a shovel. From there it is feasible to XC ski to Keppel's hut for lunch . The terrain on McFadyen's track up past Keppel's hut sits at 1300M so XC skiing on BC skis out a bit further is feasible too. In Snow shoes the hut would be the turn around point unless you are snow camping at the hut and want to slog it up the recently cleared foot track to the boundary hut ruins on Lake Mtn..
The access to Mt. No. 3 Refuge hut is 6.2 kms uphill from the Carter's road and Rd. No.3 junction. There is parking at the turning circle there. The 4 x 4 only road up the hill is locked by a gate in winter. The Mt. No. 3 area gets snow for sure and it costs zero to go there. I will be doing a BC XC ski trip and snow camp up there, possibly next month.
 
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OTHER BROADER OPTIONS for fee free XC skiing/snow play access include the following:

With a capable driver and a 4 x4 high clearance vehicle , with a shovel and chains, driving from Sheep yard flat to 8 mile Gap can offer snow play after a big low snowfall. Further on along the Bluff link Rd. can get you up to the gate where the Bluff track climbs up about 2kms to the Bluff Hut. That hut usually has snow after a decent snowfall. You'd want to be camping at Sheep yard flat to do it as a day trip. In Winter next to no one is camping at Sheep yard flat , it is very serene then , and if you bring your own firewood you can keep warm around a camp fire. After a huge low snow fall Mt. Timbertop will have snow at the summit area and the walking track from Timbertop saddle along the Sheep yard Flat track has been realigned so that it zig zags up the hill whereas it used to go straight up which was tough and slippery.
Mt.Buffalo is still a great place for free XC skiing and snow play.
It is a weekend away kind of distance from Melbourne but when it has snow that is skiable I am there!. JB Hut on JB Plain is another XC skiable free parking /fee free XC skiing/ snow play area that is between Dinner Plain and Mt. Hotham.
Of course you probably know about Mt. Donna Buang near Warburton . The number of clueless drivers taking their jalopies up there in the snow and ice when there is snow there makes driving up there possibly risky because of the numpty factor.
 
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Aidan McDonald

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Thanks for the detailed responses guys, all very much appreciated!

Looks like there is a few options to investigate depending on the snow levels.

We’ve been up to Mount Skene during fringe season snow previously and that was great fun. I remember thinking we were lucky to be up there in our high clearance 4x4 when we saw a Nissan XTrail drive past! Not so hard-core after all!
 

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In NSW you just pay a flat daily rate for car entry into the K.N.P., So accessing good snow for XC skiing and snow play is comparatively cheaper when compared with VIC..
I forgot to mention Mt.Wills which is marvellous place for snow play , XC skiing, and snow shoe activities. The summit Hut is great and it is dog friendly.
Access is from the Mitta to Omeo road at Christmas Creek saddle at 1270 M.ASL ..It gets snow and fallen trees up there along the Omeo highway in winter , so go well prepared with a chainsaw , snow shovel & chains etc. .
 
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