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solution to over snow problems

Discussion in 'Charlotte Pass' started by pow_pow, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. Polaris

    Polaris One of Us

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    Cost vs benefit = Road will not be cleared
     
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  2. Sago

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    It would have to be cheaper to clear roads than run the machines the way they do.The amount of money they spent on thrown tracks($5 to $10k per track) and fuel would be easily offset by buying a 4wd truck with big blade.It only needs to be cleared once or twice a week.The rest of the world manages to do it with far more annual snowfall and depth than our resorts.They have the 4wd buses already,fit chains and clear the roads 4-5 times a day during storms and problem solved.
    However I do like a car free village.Maybe create a terminal on the old tennis courts.Then have oversnow shuttle within the village.
    At least with current set up we(the locals) manage to keep access with a 8km snow covered ski doo track.However,we would most probably loose full time access without the snow.I would trade that for a more effiecient transport system.
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  3. Sago

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    Maybe only clear 1 lane(save on cost) so we can keep skidoo access.And that way emergency services can also drive oversnow machines from Perisher to back country when needed.
     
  4. Nidecker

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    I think in another discussion about this, someone said nat parks don't want it, and i have to admit, that it wouldn't look so nice around perisher. :-( That said I remember driving teton pass after a snow storm, 2500 odd meters high and the road was clear. Kinda makes a bit of a joke of the Perisher Charlotte road being closed for winter.
     
  5. Hobber

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    It's a bit like the way a sprinkle of snow in the UK stops the country, while the US continues to operate with feet of snow.

    To be able to do it properly is very expensive, and it's just not economical or practical to deliver US level snow clearing services.
     
  6. Telemark Phat

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    Roads are expensive to clear and once cleared ice is a big issue. Grit has significant impacts and so do salts. If you do nothing to break up the ice you still need specialist vehicles to travel along truly icy roads (studded tyres). Parks is not responsible for that road, the RTA is. It is their decision to clear that road or to keep it closed. If the Kosciuszko road between Perisher and CP existed in the US I suspect it would be closed over winter, not enough people use it.
     
  7. Nidecker

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    Thats probably too true. Those of us who use CP, (and perhaps have been inconvenienced by O/snow transport) have a very CP centric view of things :) It would have the odd wickedly icy corner, if it wasn't kept up.
     
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  8. agentBM

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    They clear it sometimes. Both pics from Nov 23, 2008, looks like they get Victorians to do it.

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    deeper near the CP turn off and extent to which this clearing could take place - snow at near blade height

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  9. Telemark Phat

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    Those are RTA trucks. Kosciuszko Road is normally cleared by a contractor.
     
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    I assume Hobber is being witty, but people do forget quickly. Just go up to Mount Stilwell and you can see the remains of the old chairlift from the Alpine Way to CP. It was built in 1963 and was closed in 1965 when high winds and frequent breakdowns got too much for the people who got stuck and frozen on it. See WikiSki.

    Also, RTA decides when the road between CP and Perisher will be cleared of snow (rather than groomed). CP would lose the custom of skiers in the two ski races usually run along the road each year (the KAC and the Kosciusko Tour) and the XC skiers who use the road to ski to CP for lunch.
     
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    Wonder if I can get a heritage grant and fix up this station? It could make a great X country ski hotel.
     
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    drove to CP today - very different experience!
     
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