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Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by Majikthise, Jun 25, 2014.
Meltage would have us back to 23 cms IMO
Snowy Hydro Snow Depth as at 3rd July 2014.
Spencers Creek 129.9 cm
Deep Creek 58.1 cm
Three Mile Dam 24.5 cm
Bugger. Climberman pipped me.
Deep Creek and Three Mile Dam have not as yet been updated.
Yeah I reckon they got 40cm from Thursday
10cm of consolidation.
Not the frikken 90cm plus the resorts reported
Cheeky, but to no avail, sadly we were both out
Missed by *that* much!
Virtually identical to 2004
Perhaps a bit more consolidation. No way Thredbo got as much snow as they reported (70cm overnight on Saturday). Notice how they always round up their totals and never report amounts outside of 5cm increments....
While all the other AWS gauges have been freezing up. The one at Perisher has been pretty spot on.
That night Thredbo reported 70cm. We got about 8-10mm of moisture. Probably around 5-7cm of snow. Spencer Creek confirms that someone is sniffing the wrong snow at Thredbo.
a well consolidated 130cm is excellent.for this time of year.
It goes to show how the snowy hydro graphs can be misleading depending on how recent the snow was.
If it snowed every wednesday the graph would be better than if it snowed the same amount every friday
Yeah astro. It was a myth
Snowy Hydro Snow Depth as at 3rd July 2014 (Updated).
Spencers Creek 129.9 cm
Deep Creek 83.2 cm
Three Mile Dam 42.3 cm
As you said Donza, very similar to 2004.
I have been saying that for a few days
It looks like 2004 lost a bit of its snow depth over the next two readings, hope 2014 is not that similar.
Next reading will be a little more. I'm calling 145. After that, I think a much bigger jump.
From a Perisher perspective after skiing for the last three days I think there is more in the resort than 130 at Spencer's suggest. Because it has been from one big storm rather than allot of smaller events where it can be effected by melting and other compression factors in between the coverage now is fantastic. A strong base and regular top up will make a great season. Although we would love to see Snowmaggedon Mk 2. 5 - 10 again today and snowing when we left at 6:00.
looks like CW will get a gold star regardless at this rate...
Went to CP today. 130 cm is on the money for the measuring slope. The snow cover along the valley between the SC measuring slope and "Eyre Pass" is not deep at all. Road was visible in a few places and the picnic table legs at SC bridge were only a few cms into the snow.
Looks like an incredible amount of snow was blown into Perisher area on the lee side. Same seemed to be the case at CP as well. The cover is far far better than what 130cm at SC would indicate.
The infill across so many lee sides is just fantastic - the main bowl at CP is just incredible - very similar to the slope down into Sun Valley off Mt P right round to the south slope of Mt Olympic - all have perfect gradient with any angle of attack perfect to ski or ride.
More snow is going to have something serious to land on over the next few days.
127.9 @ Spencer's creek, pity they took the reading today and not tomorrow
They might do another reading after this set of storms. Got this reading in ahead of the dump and will check again straight after. They do that from time to time.
Sun valley would have 400cm plus ...
I'd figured about 15-20cm out of this lot before they measured, so I'm thinking my call was bang on the money.
the 2014/2004 comparison is still remarkably close..
im still sticking with a 3 mtr season
If it's going to happen, this is how it will happen.
I'm betting depth at SC = Thredbo = Perisher regardless of time or snowfall.
IMO - If we keep getting these quality, low level dumps we'll never make it to 3m at SC.
We need a solid dump of elephant snot to build the base up.
On the plus side, at least SC is giving us a 'true' reading.
Calculator must be busted at Snowyhydro.....we lost snow this week WTF 127.9cm???
Consolidation and ablation
Even so its weird it went down 2cm. The reading was taken before last weekends fairly large falls, I would have been calling 150cm plus. I guess the high winds have been shifting alot around as its been far to cold for any melt at Spencers Creek.
i don't think i have ever seen a year track so closely to a previous record across all three courses. Makes me wish I was 10 years younger.
Spencers Creek Updated - 15th July 154.9cm
Is it just me or does it seem like they're taking measurements at points in time when the depth is at its lowest?
This week, the 15th, was day before the snow started on Wednesday.
Last week the reading was done on Wednesday, the day before the snow began.
Deliberate policy for accurate water flow into the dams?
Or they don't want to go out and take readings when the forecast says it will be snowing?
Amazing correlation! (Incidentally, both SOI and IOD are in the same ballpark). So should we expect a huge dump of snow in the first week of August?
Ooh, if the general consensus is yes then I'm taking a week off. Sorry, stay on topic.
I suspect HSE Connells; not very pleasant out there on blizzard days. Little is really lost by a day here or there. The Hydro's interest is mainly water-equivalent depth, which is likely to be less affected by measurement timing than raw depth.
@Gerg where is your predictive graph for the year?
and @Hermon that was my next line of enquiry .. what is similar. My gut says dry cold august/ sept.
http://gergs.net/2014/06/season-2014-snow-depth-prediction-5/ (down the bottom), but, err, looking a touch shaky ATM.
wrt your season prediction... i see what you mean
this however reinforces how good it is
Deep creek and 3 mile dam are in. nudging slightly ahead of 2004 at the mo.. looking more like 1990?
Eyeballing that graph suggests to me that we are about top-10 all-time for July Spencer Creek snow depth?
Another year for a possible comparison - 1978.
yep 78 ain't far off,.b '04 still best fit imo. way behind 1990.
I tend to use 1990 as my reference as it was the first year I skied in Oz... 91 was ok from memory too.. not so much after that..
Interesting to note that Falls Creek is only 5cm behind SC, normally I would have thought SC would have 20-30cm over FC at this stage.
I guess it could just be a random anomaly or could lower than average temps be playing a part bringing the snow line lower.
or less wind.
if you are a pessimist we are also tracking simlarly to 2011 too
We are and I sure hope we don't have a repeat on our hands!