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Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by Majikthise, Jun 25, 2014.
well do we have any brave folk to put a figure on this week? Will SC get to 2m?
Doubt it - 180 would be a reasonable guesstimate IMO
Should be close to the 2M mark...but it all really depends on when Snowy Hydro took the readings last week. If I recall correctly we got some heavy snowfalls on Wed afternoon last week.
Even though perisher and CP claimed 30cm, wind really took its toll on certain aspects Thursday and Friday so I wouldn't be willing to bet on much of an increase, my guess 162
As the measure approaches 1.75m, we must realise the weather patterns are changing....a big high is coming. August will be relatively scant for snow, so our peak depth is going to approach 2m or slightly over. Done.
What makes you say Aug will be scant?
He's trying to get banned.
Its happened before
Dashes away before CW gets me!
You ski tele. Your negative outlook on life is to be expected.
Snowy Hydro Snow Depth as at 24th July 2014.
Spencers Creek 168.5 cm
Deep Creek (Not yet updated)
Three Mile Dam 43.2 cm
I'll still be skiing it several times a week regardless
Looks healthy enough for now.. dumpage on 1st August is going to take it to 200+ (please)
gold star for miffy
Ok even split..you were both out by 6.5. @Miffy can send the gold star to @cold wombat on Sunday night.
No ban....just seasonal indicators and chances that Aug can turn drier...hope not though, I'm scheduled to go in 12 days.
How much damage we expecting today? 130?
130 sounds about right. Might not be measured today with these conditions - OH&S and all that ...
Spencers will be solid, its just the north west faces will be scavenged in the last few day. Dam.
I take a stab at it and say 148
I recon no ones heading out there today. OH&S. So I am calling it 205 CM.
They could have gone out yesterday?
Yesterday was crap too.
They will wait till next monday thursday
Measured this morning -- tick Miffy at 148 cm. Next week will be touch-and-go for a new peak.
Miffy scores again..inside knowledge?
Inside knowledge I wish, no, just 15 years of watching Spencer's snow depth vs passing fronts and weather systems
Massive wastage at 3 mile dam as expected.. back to 14cm. very similar to 2002
Wow, I didn't expect a drop! SC down to 145.9, but Three Mile Dam up to 20.3. We are in need of a decent top up
@Gerg 's calculated call is looking better every day. A strong july rarely leads to a late august / early sept peak.
Would say that spencers was exposed to the southerly wind on Saturday and blew it all way.
Still heaps of snow in the right places. Heaps
But substantially more at Deep Creek.
Which means more snow at lower altitude than in previous years
Well.... I was up at Charlotte Pass on Friday 1st thru to Monday 4th & I caught up with my mate who'd been there since Saturday 26th Jul. The bad days were Wednesday when it rained a lot and Thursday when the wind was truly awful. Very warm & gale force. He thought they'd lost around 50cms... It was still 14c at Cooma on the Thursday evening at 9:00PM !
Rather than the measured drop (of around 20cm) I think it more likely that it was measured on Thursday morning before the evil wind really hammered it that Thursday afternoon.
By the time we got up to CPV on the Friday it had been snowing since around midnight Thurs/Fri and it continued snowing quite heavily all Friday 'til 5:00PM and then it snowed lightly all night 'til around 5:00 AM when it essentially cleared. Sat/Sun/Mon blue skies & sub zero the whole time.
We probably got around 30cm for a net 20cm loss on the event.
Anyway - that was my observation.
I have not been this year so far; however from many years of going down and observing Persisher and Thredbo at many depths, this year from snowmageddan till now it looks like a 2mtr type base for the most part.
Basically, more than enough base for most of the season thus far.
14th August SC up a bit to 160.0
Well that is a pleasant surprise.
A bit of measurement noise methinks (or maybe drift in last Thursday's gale). The resorts are claiming just 4-10 cm snowfall for the week, but the depth goes up by 14 cm. Anyway it indicates negligible melt & consolidation, so presumably the snowpack is finally quite dense after starting very loose due to the initial dump.
Still tracking very close to 2002. Which is no surprise IMO. Check out 2013 vs 2001 - the parallels are uncanny.
The snowpack is now very densely consolidated, so a few days of sun won't do much the depth. There was around 5cm on sunday, followed up by a lot of windblown from the main range. I was expecting a small gain, but the amount probably represents a degree of inherent measurement error. Also, last weeks measurement did seem surprisingly low, so I suspect there is a bit of measurement noise happening.
And it's down a tad...
Anyone planning into September may wish to consider the record or the 2011 to inform their choices.
@Gerg 's Max depth call is looking stronger with every passing week.
slightly OT. Saw a couple of vehicles parked near Perisher main carpark today with Snowy Hydro marking and trailer with a skidoo - is this likely to have been the crew who head up to do the measurements?
That,ll be them
So spencers is out a day early this week at 154cm.
The readings have been somewhat perplexing recently. Last week, based on my observations in the resort I was expecting a rise, but it dropped from 160 to 158. this week I was expecting a significant drop, but it is only marginally down, 158 to 154cm. there has been a much bigger loss of snow than this suggests at Perisher in the last week with warm days and rain.
Just goes to show a couple of things. Spencers does not necessarily reflect what is happening in the resorts. Also I suspect there is significant measurement variability in the spencers readings. However, it is the best measurement we have for NSW
Rain and no freeze, will affect a resort significantly compared with remote terrain. imo. All those skiers pushing the thawed snow down the mountain.