Observations Spencer’s Creek, Deep Creek Measurements 2019

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  1. BlueHue

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    Deep Creek up from 84cm to 100cm, Three Mile Dam up from 3cm to 15cm so bigger increases than Spencers Ck.

    Maybe more wind (and being from south) in higher areas led to less snow deposition at Spencers Creek. I've often noticed increases at Spencers Creek are also more modest relative to snowfall amounts later in the season. I wonder if this is due to the much deeper snowpack causing snow layers below to continue consolidating under added weight, could be talking out my....... though.
     
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  3. SMSkier

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    Pics taken today

    1. Near where the readings are taken....



    2. Spencer’s further along the road....


     
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    Back of Guthries.... surprised to see that much snow still
     
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    It's in - 206.3cm
     
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    Still quite a bit of snow. We'd love that amount down in Mexico! ⛷❄️
     
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    sounds plausible. Also possible is that most of the moisture in this week's cold snap was further north, and Deep Creek and 3 mile are both a bit further north in KNP so they may have gotten more. Just a theory, also from where the sun...
     
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    182.7cm on todays read for Spencers Creek
     
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    Any thoughts whether upper Thredders or Mid PB are about the same?

    Just wondering?
     
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    I don't know if they are the same (that hypothesis would require testing with a statistically sound study ) but in terms of where cover is at compered to normal for this time of year, then yes above 1700m I would say they are both looking above average right now like Spencer's Creek is as well, based on first hand obs from skiing earlier in the week.

    If I had to make a call on the thaw, without more snow I think it will be a faster October thaw than normal, thanks to the lovely red dust layer rapidly baring it's teeth again after the top up Monday briefly/partially covered it.
     
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    Interesting with - 1.8m, even with a fast melt one would expect the cover to last 2-3 weeks?

    Assuming no big rain events?
     
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    Normally I'd say without big rain events you'd be looking at a slower than normal thaw but the red dust introduces an x factor to the mix that can accelerate thaw. How long cover lasts depends where you are talking. Main Range touring and you are looking well beyond 2-3 weeks. Resort skiing to Perisher's close on Oct 13th and you should be ok although of course terrain will become a lot more limited, heading towards the usual Front Valley/Goats Gully and links out to Mt P/Eyre.
     
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    The cover will last at perisher without any problems. However, the question is more how skiiable it is. Currently this week it has become too sticky to comfortably ski around lunchtime / early afternoons. Definitely early mornings are best. The last week of perishers season is daylight savings time, so effectively we get to start an hour earlier
     
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    I’ll take a look tomorrow but just noting that Charlottes has reverted to using vehicles ion tyres as opposed to tracks to transport guests.

    However, I don’t know to what point in the road and whether or not they switch further up. They were certainly going past Mt P today.....

    One other little point of note......

    Staff and maybe guests now parking opposite the base of the quad.... first time since the road was closed.

    Going back 3 seasons you could park at Eyre before the resort closed.

    More to follow I guess...

    EDIT:.... here’s a pic taken today - the day after the above comments....it’s clear to Betts (can’t determine status at the Spencer’s Gate) and the CP vehicles are still running on tyres....



    Noted RMS maintenance vehicles on the road in the am. So clearing and maintenance activity much earlier than last year. That said, the signage etc at PV advising the road is closed remains in place at circa 3 pm today (Friday).
     
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    147cm today, the melt is progressing rapidly
     
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    Still an amazing tally for October.

    Long live 2019.
     
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    Spencers reading today 89cm. Falling at a more rapid rate than 2018, but similar rate to 2017. Deep creek and 3 mile dam now 0cm
     
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    Quite possibly back up, over a metre by Thursday.
     
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    I went through spencers on my bike. There is not a lot of snow there now, the loss has been very rapid.
     
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    The reddish - brownish top cover didn't help either.
     
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    I had fun revving up the lads at the Brewrey on Saturday arvo with my "forecast" of a 50-100 cent storm by the end of the first week of Nov. @SMSkier was frothing at the prospect of at least one Nov slide - albeit on freshies and a few patches of left over dusty corn... Weirdest snow pack I've ever seen the last few weeks. Dust to dust...
     
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    Personally, I think one could be considered a fool to write anything like that off just yet. But the outlook doesn’t look overly optimistic yet.
     
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    Would seem to depend on what the AAO does - the dip looks to be pretty hard wired into the forecast. Moreover, given the way this winter has played out - it would seem to be statistically a high probability that another large cold precip event occurs in next few weeks.
     
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    Mate..... your confusing excitement with bewilderment.:rolleyes:...
     
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    Then there is this for Perisher. Thoughts of probability?
     
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    A lot of that will include overnight rainfall.

    15-20cm is likely on the MR (and Perisher tomorrow) IMO.
    #lovesanorwester
     
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