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Spring backcountry gathering in Japan

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by damian, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. The Bush Patrol

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    Yep cool with the pre-order on the pasta & rice. I was keen to do a little shopping myself as I would nearly consume your body weight in chocolate over 7 days. I'm cool with adapting my BC staples with local subsitutes but would like to make an informed decision at the supermarket. Plus the other stuff like batteries, stove fuel, deodorant that only works if you dont sweat & some of that cheap whisky.
    But not stuff around & then get up there.
    Not Pumped much 10 more sleeps !!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    He's not joking.
     
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  3. inky

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    You'll need to remove the packaging first, it's like those Russian dolls with all the crap everything comes in.

    Hermetically sealed for total inconvenience.


    Bit damp today but it's turning again.

     
  4. Rimey

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    Today in Tsugaike, inky and me took the gondie then the ropeway (cable car) to the top,
    then out to the national park for a bit of a recce.
    Temps were in the minus, the sky was blue, snow dry and fluffy and plenty of it.
    For example, on our skin track, the snow level was half way up to our knees.
    The down side: misstep on the transition, you post hole up to your gonads.

    Had a waffle with a Japanese dude in a Dynafit lid and new tlt5p boots out in the NP. He was saying that
    this is the best Japanese season for a while.
    So, TBP and BW, lookin` good.

    Yesterday was a resort day. 300mm of freshies around the mid resort. We started together and
    got split up. In a divine coincidence, we both made it to the top of the only black run in the joint
    at the same time. The patrol had just opened it for the first time for days and we were first down.
    Full on powder. I didn`t look down but I could feel snow bashing on my thighs.
    End of day at the Gondola bottom station I ran into a group of about 30 Japanese dudes on AT gear
    on their group debreif. When they disbanded, I`m getting head bows from all sides. Nice one.

    Sunday, my first day at Tsugaike out in the resort, freshies on the upper to mid slopes white on white.
    Had some laps with Damian and Mio. I think he got the afterburner option on those yellow DPS pontoons.
    He can motor on those things.
    Paying around $35 for a day ticket.



     
  5. damian

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    Nice recap of your first three days, and very happy that Cortina and today were... soft and dry.

    I broke trail for over 1500m vertical today in that stuff. Boot deep the whole way. Long distances, heavy manky slow going lower down in the afternoon. I suffered more than I usually do! Need a sleep, should have gone by now.

    Here is the hut for next week, photo taken today. The melted patch on the right is the outdoor onsen area.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. damian

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    Also, Monday is looking good for a first outing [Inky+Heinz+Limey]. It will be warmish, so we'll have to get up high. Do some stretches.
     
  7. CarveMan

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    Don't forget the lunch deal and free onsen!
     
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  8. inky

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    No free onsens at Cortina (for me anyway), some bloke's minimalist glory swinging around at eye level during a brief English grammar session last year will be payed for in graphic detail for some time to come it seems.

    Hands on hips, beaming smile, the whole traumatising bit.

    Some things can't be unseen.
     
  9. The Bush Patrol

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    3 more sleeps. Back to the physio Friday pm for final back adjustment. Hope it holds up (that a whinge in advance).
    I was told that international roaming on phone is exy in Japan & cheaper to just buy a sim when there, is that correct ? If so is there easy access to one around your place Damian or should I look en-route to Hakuba ?
     
  10. piolet

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    gees, it's just a bit of cock - harden up! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  11. Donza

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    I used optus roaming in feb ...
    the bill came in at 20 bucks or so...(no data) for 10 days
    mostly texts and a couple of calls
    wasn't too bad
    last year I rented a sim and the bill as around 3900 yen for 20 days..
     
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  12. damian

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    Sorry to say that I honestly have absolutely no idea at all about sims, roaming, buying them or renting phones. I'm not really a phone guy. Didn't even know what a sim card was until last year when I went to Australia. Hakuba is a bit of a backwater and am not sure of there is even a phone shop in the town. I'd guess that the airport is your best option for getting one?

    Also, just in case- do not try and reach me with sms, they almost never arrive at my phone. I actually do not even use sms in Japan.
     
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  13. randomlyred

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    Foreigners can't buy a sim in japan, you can rent one at Narita, roam your mobile (which I find cheaper for the occasional text), or find someone who lives in Japan to buy a sim with their ID. It's crazy that roaming on Telstra works out to be as cheap as renting a SIM (as long as you turn data off!)
     
  14. inky

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    _im_ , yeah i know, it's one of those rare feelings like between nausea and admiration or something.


    Great day yesterday, had a blow out at 47 to regroup, feel a bit dirty now.

    Bit damp this weekend but the machine looks to be turning back on next week.

    Don't really need a phone here, everything's bang on schedule, but I'm not a phone bloke anyway.

    Not long now boys.
     
  15. Heinz

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    Just a few more hours in the office today for me. Then flying out via KL tomorrow.
     
  16. Ubiquitous Steve

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    Yep phones are dull!
    See the boys at strippers staggering while operating said communications
    boxes.
    [​IMG]
    Bears say holster those gadgets.Real men keep them in theirr trucks
     
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  17. damian

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    Good stuff H.

    You should arrive on a powder day in the backcountry, then first day out Monday will offer something good for you. Tuesday will be possibly wet and windy. Then Wednesday will bring another cold fresh snow day.

    Today hit +16C in the valley and some of the stickiest worst snow I have seen, even quite high up was bad (where it is as windy as hell). Recent Kosa didn't help (dirty heat-absorbing dust from the Gobi Desert)

     
  18. damian

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    Oh, and Thursday and Friday you will likely ski powder as well, just have to climb a little higher to get where it is falling dry.
     
  19. inky

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    i was going to ask you about that, but i forgot. I noticed the darker tinge going up this morning, it really stood out where some recent small slides were.
     
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  20. Rimey

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    Yes, inky, that Kosa grabby snot was all over the shop in Happo today.
    Unpleasant, but I used it to crank up my skills.
    I slipped out at the top of the `Grat Quad`.
    Followed a Japanese tele couple on BD pontoons.
    Soft with less Kosa up to the second monument/cairn, from there it was very different, white and acceptibly dry. Blowing like buggery up there, however.
    Thanks for the tip.

    Yesterday was a pearler. Went out with Damian on a recce. Mostly skinning.
    On the good stuff in the morning. A bit steamy in the arvo. Blue skies and not a breath of wind.
    Went to places westeners rarely go. Clear enough the see the sea of Japan over
    ranges of mountains in the foreground. One happy boy.

    TBP and BW, saw 100s of `that chute` on our outings to the back and slack.
    Pack the cold spoon, boys.
     
  21. The Bush Patrol

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    OOOOO YYyyyeeeesssss Sounds gooood . Hope the back holds up went to the physio yesterday & much improvement but still not perfect Maybe stretching on the plane plus plenty of dencorub before the cresent goes on the back. We are now getting Chuo Taxi to your house Damian so maybe there about the same time as previously stated or if not before as no transfers & also quick to depart the airport.
    Limey you guys should be ripping by the time we get there with resort & side country warm ups. Just an excuse in advance for first runs of the year gumby skiing sort of thing.
    Totally pumped now, nearly all packed, money sorted, insurance done, skis tuned, back stuffed. Keen to meet all our new best friends !!!!!!!
    2 more sleeps.
     
  22. damian

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    Weather may delay a departure to the camp... in a good way (snow). No need to be out there wet, and restricted by visibility and avalanche risk, when we have more wider options available to us from the house with a car.
     
  23. NeoSamurai

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    If I retrace my steps I can probably find it.
    damian, I was just wondering what type of stove do most Japanese use backcountry in Japan? (ie. LiquidFuel? Canister Gas? MSR? Kovea? etc.)

    What do you normally use?

    Thanks
     
  24. The Bush Patrol

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    Stoked !!!!!!!!!! heading to Sydney today. YYYYEEEESSSS.
    See you guys soon.
     
  25. damian

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    Looks like consistent light snow (but windy) for at least the3rd- 6th... on top of last nights less than expected amount (10cm at 800m).

    Troll - I honestly have no idea what stove most Japanese use in the backcountry. Never really surveyed them. I normally use gas canisters or white gas, depending on the situation.
     
  26. NeoSamurai

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    Is white gas (Shellite) easy to source in Japan? Where would I most likely find it?
     
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  27. damian

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    I do not know if white gas is shellite - not familiar with that term myself. Either way, if you are after white gas, then you can get it at most camping shops.

    Finding a camping shop is another issue...
     
  28. NeoSamurai

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    If I retrace my steps I can probably find it.
    Yep, thanks it's the same thing, Shellite (Australia), white gas (USA), white spirit (UK) and Coleman Fuel (USA)
     
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  29. Heinz

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    Nice day up above Tsuigaike with damian and fast_limey. Warm and sunny, very little wind, great views. Snow a bit heavy but a good first day out followed up with a nice onsen.
     
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    skyting text messages from TBP and WIlso from the plane around midday. They boarded without excess luggage issues.
     
  31. damian

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    First turns for Heinz since last year...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Lovin the vibes in this thread
     
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    stop it, I cant cope!
     
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    Looks good to me!
     
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    Good work guys! Have a great trip - stay safe and and fun... Forking jealous!!
     
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  38. damian

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    Today is skis and skin maintenance in the workshop. Rainy and warm and windy as the low moves from the wrong place to the right place... bringing snow tonight and for the next 3 days of so.

    I am the only one with a mild hangover after an evening of sitting around drinking and staring at the wood fire in place of a tv.

    The remaining two arrive this afternoon.

     
  39. Heinz

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    Some good stories told last night.
     
  40. Heinz

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    Bit of a bummer today. Came here for spring skiing and had to ski powder...
     
  41. benchives

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  43. damian

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    No photos. No framed posed look at me shots were procured today. I don't think anyone even thought to stop and click.
     
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    forecast wasn't great today but the snow started falling a little before 7am and never stopped all day. Supposed to be a lot of wind but it never eventuated and we got some nice deep powder runs in 50cm.

    The skiing was pretty good - check out the bush patrol......

    http://vimeo.com/39819079

    Forecast is looking better for tomorrow and saturday with plenty of new snow on the way.
     
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    So now i am angry!!
    Have fun you Bast#@rds
     
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    spring skiing?? That's spring skiing? I've got to get out more [​IMG]
     
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  49. damian

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    Heinz behind the lense.

    Face shots. I Had to take a photo because I was a little surprised after my first run.
    [​IMG]

    Brian Wilson on the full body-shot high as well. Over the shoulders.
    [​IMG]
     
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    nnnooooooooo. my worst nightmare realised!!!!!!!!!!!!