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Starting Telemark

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Snow Blowey, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    So i've been in here for 16 years or so now and i've sort of been reading the tele stuff but not really understanding what the fark all the terms mean.

    If an AT skier was looking to try telemarking (to understand you fockers i must ski a day in your boots) what sort of setup should i be looking at?

    Was thinking something that was beefy enough for the resort but light enough so that i could tour with it if i caught the bug.

    Boots seem to have evolved from duck bill things to tech pins. Having trouble getting my head around that.

    Any help appreciated.
     
  2. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well well well.....
     
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  3. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    NSW or Vic?
     
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  4. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    well with school kids being asked to tolerate transsexuals by understanding them better i thought i should try and learn to tolerate the tele crew by getting to know them better.

    OK. the real reason is that I just want to be like whippet and telecrag. I ordered the van already. Just need new skis now.
     
  5. Boodwah

    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Seriously, you don't need the sex change to tele.
    But if you want one anyway, then I know some people...
     
  6. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    :eek: Has the whole world gone mad ? This Tele disease has gone rampant
     
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  7. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yah be careful, fun is catching

    If you go down the duck bill path let me know i may have a set of hammerheads available. Not sure yet as my ski plans are up in the air for the next few years
     
  8. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    kids getting in the way piolet?

    must turn with legs closed.
     
  9. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes and no. I think i will tele more now with em in resorts to keep it interesting and i would love to tele enough to be good enough to ski the off piste i want to and can with a fixed heel. It's so much fun and a worthwhile pursuit, particularly for a skier in oz that may be running out of things to do?
    I am also moving to be less convenient to the snow but that's moot as kids make the short notice trips harder.
    I also have a foot injury that may really snooker me and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Not serious but I'd be surprised if it wasnt a problem for skiing - climbing is defi out for now - not that i have the time. Very keen to get this sorted.
     
  10. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can save you plenty of time and $$, folks are going to suggest all sorts of gear with names you cant pronounce let alone begin to understand how to tele with.

    This setup is perfect for your requirements and i can even let it go for a great price.

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sweeeet rig.

    Even meets TPs lightness test.
     
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  12. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    multiple bugger.
     
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    Rimey One of Us

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    My weekend on teles. I rented one of Bruce's NTN setups. I got in half a dozen genuine tele turns.
    They're not easy, but much pleasure. It's too easy to parallel on 'em, that's the suck in.
    It's a commitment of the mind.
     
  14. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Great idea perhaps to check out a few rigs? Get a feel for what the differences mean and maybe even take a short lesson to get pointed in the right direction and you'll be off. I found Tele easy to pick up but off piste much more tricky. You 'get it' pretty fast you you're already a competent off piste skier.

    I'm not up on the latest gear at all but you can't go wrong with a mid weight boot/binding combo imo (3 buckles and moderately active (where the binding pivots on the boot). new converts tend to gravitate to a more active binding it seems and it will come down to personal preference. I like the medium to low active setting and my old 22designs hammerheads allowed me to set this which was pretty sweet for experimenting.

    Unleash your inner gear whore
     
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    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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  16. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've got a couple of NTN 26.5 boots you could try on any 3 of my rigs this season.
    CP3 bebe!

    You know you want to!
     
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    Myazma One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just come over the the darker side, we don't talk in fancy language, Shred, gnarly, spliffy, etc. Baggy pants optional
     
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  19. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can give you half arsed tips, and laugh a lot! Pretty much like last time, only this time with you on teles!
     
  20. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Boots: You want NTN boots (no duck bill, there is a "second heel" under your arch that the binding connects to) with tech fittings, this will give you the greatest choice in bindings. There isn't much choice but since resort is your primary focus I'd suggest bigger over lighter. With a burly boot and a resort focused binding you'll have about 70% of the parallel performance of an alone set up.

    Bindings: For resort with some touring I'd recommend the Rottafella free ride but people's opinions will differ.

    Skis: whatever type of ski you would choose to alpine on.

    Telemark makes the mountain bigger.
     
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  21. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Of you want serious help Trevor Greenwood should be back at Thredbo next winter. Ken Spain is great but I'm not sure how much teaching her is doing these days.
     
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  22. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not sure where you lot fit into the whole transsexual metaphor.

    Split boarders would be hermaphrodite I guess.
     
  23. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Because they get to GFYS? :eek:
     
  24. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    They're some kind of linky disability fetish.
     
  25. Boodwah

    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've not even been tele' a year so would feel like a bit of a whanker giving advice. But, you want to get boots that are NTN and tech compatible. That means Scarpa or Crispi. And Scarpa is discontinuing the tech heal from this year. So maybe get some cheap post season stock from Telemark Pyrenees before no longer possible.
     
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  26. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    ****ng Jeezus.
     
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  27. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    So is the meidjo a bit to flimsy for resort?
     
  28. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    And steeper
    And funner
     
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  29. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well his reps have been doing it to lots of people so it's about time he copped one back!

    Are you season passing again this year cm?
     
  30. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Scott boots will have tech fittings next season on the toe and heel.
     
  31. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm not as confident of its ability to withstand resort duty as the Rottafella (Freeride or Freedom) or 22 Designs (Outlaw) bindings. But this isn't surprising considering how much lighter the binding is. The extra fiddle of tech fittings is also a factor for me.

    But it depends on where your preferences are. The Meijdo skis really well, but for me it is a less than 50% resort binding. YMMV
     
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  32. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes mate.
    Planning on every second weekend.
    Have managed a few days' on the pass already.
    Love the 365 pass.
     
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  33. Boodwah

    Boodwah A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think the Meidjo 2:0 is a pretty robust device. My weapon of choice for in and outside boundaries - but I don'y have any precedents for comparison. Once you work out its intricacies, and particularly if yr used to tech, it's an easy step in.
     
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  34. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    You bought a van yet?
     
  35. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not having had a go on the M's I would agree with TP, for the same reason people dont use Dynafit as a resort binder. They look like an AWESOME bc binding though, light with pivot, and grunt when you need it.

    @climberman Ill be up to 8 days after this weekend! Pass will be paid for before the snow falls!
     
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  36. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Having trashed my dynafits in the resort last year I think a heavier resort option is the go.

    Seems like I need to chase some boots soon.

    Phat - do you know of any second hand ntn bindings or ski-bindings that may be available?
     
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    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I am in jindy until tomorrow if you think there is anything worth looking at.
     
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    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Are scarpa tx pro a decent boot. Al l that is left in my size at tp.
     
  39. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I like mine.
     
  40. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Though I am not that big on the colour.
     
  41. BMT

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    Rhythm in Cooma has a decent range of NTN boots and also has the Volkl BMT skis... I saw one person in Tsugaike BC in late Jan on M's and though he liked them they had just broken once more... so I agree they look good but seem unreliable at this stage... be interesting to see what Rottefella have install for this year in the way of a new NTN binding. Personally I have found the Freedom a ripper of a binding and have had no issues on piste or off
     
  42. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I liked the freedom bc, but like the extra grunt of the freerides in the resort. Slightly different actions IMO, though I was on Green springs set soft on the freedoms.
     
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    I tried the freerides and didn't like the action... I am on Freedoms with blue springs set near max ... and found them excellent for both tele's and parallel turns ... I can recommend the BMT 94's for those wanting a good touring one quiver ski
     
  44. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    My understanding of the springs, and preload, I would suggest trying Red on minimum.I run Blues on 3ish on the freerides. @tele-whippet likes his greens.
     
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    There's this awesome binding called the new Nordic Norm, but make sure you don't just get the resort version. Go for the backcountry version for maximum utility. Remember that name - NNN-BC - it's what all the cool kids will be tele-ing on next season.
     
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  46. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I went from something like this

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    To

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    to
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  47. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I thought they were as good as it got, then

    [​IMG]
     
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  49. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    But they were heavy, so

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  50. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I still rate them as one of the best, but regressed for bc with

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