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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by mick chopps, Jun 25, 2015.
@skifree this may have been the thread you were looking for
This is not the thread I was looking for.
NY was a week ago
Isn't it time to open a relevant 2016 Tent thread?
Maybe we could talk about my fixed camp at Pretty Valley?
Didn't that get pulled down one year?
There's nothing worse than an erection that is not appreciated by others. The discontent usually results in it being pulled down by its owner. I'd know.
Yes the 2014 camp was vandalised but that has been discussed at length in a different thread.
2016 the camp will be more discrete and set up earlier to allow me to hide away from most eyes
Moondog needs Bear traps to catch right wing greenies vandalising his assets....
if Bears had money and perhaps a toe ball too :one could pull a caravan into Diamintina Horse Yards and set it up before road closure then come back on bike(even motorized maybe ) and enjoy the set up for the whole of winter...perhaps having a happy hour every Saturday night so travellers were inspired to crack the party...
have seen caravan in there last year I think when workers came to fix the bridge washouts....
perhaps Ken could give Moondog the key to the Rod Robbin Battery after all it needs a caretaker to prevent vandals etc..then you could relax in style accommodation throwing the odd party weekend....
Team Bears have a new gazebo tent and we are dying to put it up to check it out..............
Sort of tent related..
Probably not ideal for Snow camping, but a neat idea!
few days left if anyone wants to back it
Been to the Kathmandu sale Steve ?
This has been a nice read to recap what's been going on in the tent space for the last little while.
I've used the lightweight version of a Salewa Sierra Leone 2 in moderate Aus conditions, and it was fairly good until the edge of the fly let go...fairly sure cold temps made the fabric more brittle than otherwise and pulling hard to re-tension/peg it didn't help. Was nice of mum to fix it for me, though. But the "each person has their own side" bit I liked a lot. Now have a Marmot Thor 2, which is heavy, but so am I in many ways, so I'm not overly concerned about that - it's not for touring day-to-day so much as slog in, set up and play for as long as possible.
I also recently picked up a brand new Hilleberg Nallo 2 for $10 from the local Vinnies (!), which got a test as a bike touring option over the festive season - really, really smart design features and no unnecessary (in the eyes of the beholder) baubles. The main lessons from that quick trip were a) riding with a backpack is grim; b) an Insulmat with many holes makes for a really, really uncomfortable night...not sure why I didn't test it before heading out, particularly after recently discovering that my DownMat 7DLX has delaminated fairly extensively while in storage.
Where's the 2016 sleeping mat thread? I need some ideas...
GET. THE. FARK. OUTTA. HERE.
Outdoor bargain of the century!
Yes, gotta get the weight off your back for backpacking I reckon.
I'll double your money for you right how and pay the postage
I am SOooooooo jealous
As far as mats go I have the new S2S insulated air mat and I'm very happy with the combination of comfort and insulation
Although being the sort of bloke who wears a belt and uses braces too I always carry a CCF pad as well [ sometimes two of them] but bang for buck the new S2S mats are the bomb
I know. I now have to deal with the reality that I will never, EVER get a better bargain at a Vinnies, for the rest of my life. It's quite a cross to bear
Do like my new DuPont tyvek groundsheet.
For dedicated bike packing gear I went with bike bag dude, Google it up. I have a frame bag and seat bag, with an oleja negra handlebar and top tube setup. A bbd roll bag might be better as they are double ended.
I've got a few mates who are fairly well ensconced in the bikepacking scene...who treated the idea of riding with a backpack with scorn and derision...afterwards...very helpful! Rightly so, though.
hows the arse?
this reminds me of Nick Hornby
It held up surprisingly well, given I was on a carbon hardtail singlespeed.
Perfect touring machine!
I have thought about it with my steel SS, plenty of hike a bike?
Practically none, but the route/destination was carefully selected to facilitate that. Have a 26" steelie SS that still gets some action when I want to feel like a BMX Bandit Neither of them have capacity for panniers of any description. The only logical conclusion is that I don't have enough bikes. Will start shopping once I get back from spending February in Canada.
I know this problem.
Same logic applies to tents
I'm sure I need at least two more tents
I recommend keeping an eye out at your local Vinnies
I dropped of an old Vango 2cn at my local Salvos a couple of months ago. Great tent but tiny and very old school!
Any Hillebergs in my local Vinnies won't last long I tell you
FWIW my Marmot Earlylight's floor started leaking on about the fifth outing - the fabric, not the seams. Bought from o/s & out of warranty anyway. Sod it.
Maybe there's something in the advice to store them loosely bundled.
Picked up an LLbean 4 pole geo thing for $5 as new condition at a garage sale, no vestibule, also scored a massive family size tent for $20 , good condition, I have used it once over easter and it pissed down, stayed dry, wife & kids didn't whinge
so it's paid for itself, been on the shelf for the last 12 years.
Anyone had experience with Warmlite Tents.? www.warmlite.com
I might be a bit late with the discussion on MHW Trangos, but I was overseas when this thread started - sleeping in it! Here it is 12 years ago, well buried in a week long blizz in Kamchatka. The tents were on flat snow before....
Anyway the tent is still going, and the same Trango 2 slept our three kids for several months in South America. Here is my little girl on her fourth birthday, 4400m up in Bolivia...
Good for very cold conditions. Shocking condensation in Australian temperatures. Ordinary quality of manufacture, telewhippet and I both occasionally sew better.
Apparently the naked women on the website are his extended family.
Any advice what poles to look for it to stand a 100kph or more? i used once the alu poles of my tarp tent, it broke when hit by around 95kph wind force storm in MR, should dac featherlite poles stand for such wind force? Or any other better option poles available here in Aussie?
Hut or snow cave or be somewhere else.
I'm not all that familiar with tarp tents but know they have a good reputation. My question is are they actually designed for true mountain weather above the tree line?
I'm with climberman on this one although a smart move is to do shovel time and build a big f#% off snow wall. They can save your tent for the most part. (assuming it's winter)
Sorry, cant help with the pole question.
Thanks DJM, it was scarp1, I was in MR early spring, when it's happen (early morning), during my packing up to seaman hut.
Someone around here should be able to help with the pole question @rM788, if not head over to the bushwalk forum. Those guys are tech freaks and should be able to help.
Did you have it set up with the additional crossing poles? If not, they are needed for high wind and snow loads - otherwise there is too much unsupported surface area, and basically any pole would snap. Whilst DAC poles are good quality, I doubt they would be much better than the ones that came with the Scarp, unless you could source a thicker diameter pole (i.e. Hilleberg sell 9mm and 10mm diameter poles depending on intended usage).
For any tent, but especially a lightweight tent, tent site selection, direction of tent in relation to pre-dominant wind direction, and a big protective snow wall are key in a winter-type environment.
Mate had his pole snap on a scarp on the Nullabor. We were looking at them on a trip, comparing his to my MONT, and the MONT though not 4 season, was quite obviously going to take more wind. Id say with a Scarp you want to pitch carefully, and preferably protected from really strong wind. His was just a freak storm that hit suddenly in the night though, but he had guyed it out, and had the extra pole. Lightweight just has to be flimsier.
Oh, they sent him a replacement pole too, which was handy as he still had a ways to go.
@ecowain & @telecrag ; Many thanks for your reply. Yes, i used the cross poles, and the guyropes as well, however the wind may much stronger than the poles..i guess broke the main pole. Now i use the hilleberg soulo, with its dac featherlite poles, hope it gives me more peace of mind during any freak storm. However, dont mind of investing in a better poles if there is a better one available here in Aussie.
note: sorry, the second image was not that focus on the tent as i was hiding behind the granite rock to stand still not being blown by that wind force storm, was snowing too (according to BOM thredbo top weather station, the gale force that morning could up to 135kph)
I honestly think its more the tent design, than the pole strength. I really like those tents, so freaking light, nearly half my Mont, but we gave them both a good shake, and looking sceptically, it was pretty obvious. The more movement possible in the design, the more likely a catastrophic failure IMO, though to be fair, thats a lot of wind.
Agree with u, it is a great tent, like its lightness n its two vestibules. Unfortunately we can't have everything I was looking at mont tent too before deciding to Hilleberg, look it is promising tent as well except for its weight. Cheers.
Interesting comment on the sewing skills thing
I have been given an old Eureka Caddis that needs a new fly and as I was looking at it I had the thought of cutting it in half and adding in a central panel and another pole to double the usable size to a true 3 person tent
Won't be happening while I get ready for the big winter camp but it does have possibilities for family bushwalking with the grandkids
Helsport are now being imported into OZ so Hilleberg may get some competition here
Mont Epoch with snow valances and Spectra guy ropes(which don't absorb water and freeze)
It's on the heavier side, but it's never come close to failing us, can be double poled at windy base camps
and has plenty of guy out points.
Picked up a brand new Macpac Minaret for three fiddy (after a $100 voucher I got for christmas). Not bad I reckon.
Just ordered a new "tent" on wheels. A Volkswagon Transporter 4 Motion. Joining the other poor people in the car park at Thredbo.
Hilleberg Unna for sale on bushwalk.com