The 2015 Tent Thread

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by mick chopps, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. DidSurfNowSki

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    Going the sleeve route so I don't need to stuff around with the elastic cord.

    Pole dia is 9.5mm, these are 10.2mm

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    Heading out to Fyshwick tomorow to get a Mont Firefly. Hopefully it will be tough enough to handle some nasty winter weather etc. Any thoughts on this purchase appreciated. @skifree ?
     
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  3. mr

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    looks a nice design. do you want it for 2 or a big one for one?
     
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    Mostly 2 for 3 seasons walking and climbing and 1 for Winter.
     
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  5. skifree

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    Very happy with ours. Mostly used in Tas. We tend to use our Mont Epoch for snow. Just cos it has a little more space, and a couple ?? More poles.
     
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  6. Kletterer

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    So hard to decide
     
  7. skifree

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    If you want 1 tent do the FF.

    If you want the best tool for the job you need more than 1 tent.
     
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  8. mr

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    agree - im pretty sure im up to 8....

    hilleberg soulo (current fave), 1 person 4 season
    macpac olympus, 3 person 4 season
    macpac nautilus, 2 person 3 season
    a thing from anaconda cant remember the brand, 3 season 3 people
    the 'festival tent', 2 drunks or stoners regardless of weather
    kids singleskin, 2 small persons in summer
    the coleman mansion in a bag, 6 persons, be lucky if its 2 season
    the 9m yurt, 4 season has had over 12 sleeping persons
     
  9. Hyst

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    Al depends on your size and needs of space. We are 2 small people and can do with a 2 person tent. We use Helsport Ringsted 2 together, and I use it alone as well.

    http://www.helsport.no/ringstind?___store=english

    It is like a religion: either Hilleberg or Helsport tents.
     
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    i have a friend who is convinced it rains every time he puts up his helsport
     
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  11. Kletterer

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    Got the Firefly and footprint. No Epoch till the new model comes out in 4 months time.
     
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  12. Chaeron

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    Very happy with the workmanship & materials of my one man 3 season Mont Moondance (after a season of use - more than lived up to expectations, so the firefly should be good for an Aussie winter. I made sure to buy the separate footprint as evidently the floor is less durable than required - probably an issue for the Firefly too.
     
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  13. Time

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    what is the new model?
     
  14. Kletterer

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    Definitely needs the Footprint. Should go ok but will still need to be mindfull of where I pitch it re. wind
     
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    A few changes to the current Epoch . Not sure exactly what.
     
  16. Time

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    hopefully dynema rope with reflective thread instead of the current rubbish which absorbs water and freezes.
    Be nice to see some changes for it to be able to pitch the outer first, as well as some internal guyout points and more easily double polled. i'd also like the foam block on the side to be refined to a better solution.

    other than that best tent i've owned, even if it shredded tomorrow i'd buy another one in a heart beat.
     
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    Hey DSNS, how did the Vango go in the snow? @DidSurfNowSki
     
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    Really good. I ended up getting a pole repair kit from the UK and bought a pipe cutter from Reece to cut the aluminium poles to the correct size. I've also upgraded my groundsheet to a dupont tyvek.

    From the weekend...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Just tried out the Aldi tent peg set
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    I'm a fan.
     
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  20. skifree

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    Nice hammer shaped rock you've included there.
     
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  21. Chaeron

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    Mont Moondance did well on Eskdale Ridge above treeline in reasonably strong winds and low temperature (below freezing) - however, insulation-wise wind comes in under the flysheet, so not optimal.
     
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  22. Moondog55

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    Winter tents really do need valances, very few tents come with them these days.
    Removable ones are best but I have sewn them onto tents in the past, any cheap waterproof fabric can be used; after all they may need to be cut off if they have frozen in place and you really do need to move in a hurry.
    An alternative is to extend the height of the bathtub floor up the walls 300/450mm ( or brush the walls with a silicon solution for a quick cheap fix)
     
  23. Time

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    Looks like all my wishes pretty much came through!!! still not really pitchable outer first (but much easier to do inner/outer combined pitch)...but otherwise good changes!
    http://www.bogong.com.au/mont-epoch-tent.html
    http://www.mont.com.au/epoch-tent-sunburst-tangerine
     
  24. skifree

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    We have an Epoch, for 2 person snow tent it is the ducks guts.
     
  25. Time

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    Agreed - my current one has outlasted 2 sets of poles and still going strong
     
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    3.6 kg, about as heavy as my old Olympus used to weigh. Bomber but heavy.
     
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    Going up to the next size in poles is a very expensive exercise but I have oftened wondered if it would be worthwhile in the long run
     
  28. skifree

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    But bigger inside than an Oly.
     
  29. Time

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    Since double polling i've had no problems. just take them when i need them. Much prefer that than larger poles.
     
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  30. Feders

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    Howdy
    Advice - Tipi style tents single skin any good for snow camping compared to Hilleberg Nammatj 3 Gt etc ?
    Experienced ones ?
     
  31. Time

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    They aren't for me. I find them cold and we and not that stable in winds. Maybe ok below the tree line, but thats not my thing.
     
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    Ok. Yeah. Just not sure but they look interesting. Those are my main concerns. Wet and cold.
    Ta
     
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    They are light, and if pitched well then pretty bomber.
    Condensation is an issue.
    Spent many a toasty night in my BD Betamid.
    I still have Golite Shanti La 2 and a MLD Solomid for lightweight forays.
    My go to tent is a Mont Bell Stellar Ridge 2 double skin 1.8 kg tent
     
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    Thanks Tele. You have a collection there.
    I like the idea of digging out a nice trench for feet /cooking /standing room etc but wonder on the sleeping arrangements. Thought is - seperate suitably sized foot prints for down mat/bag. I like the idea of space. So many tents don't have much sleeping area for taller people.
     
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    Ps, The one being considered is the Sierra Design Mountain Guide Tarp at 3kg
     
  36. POW_hungry

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    Hi BC gang,
    I am after a four/all season solo tent. I already have the Mont Epoch but is too big and heavy for backpacking. next tent i need is a solo (travelling to Krygyzstan solo) so ideally need light (ultra?) where possible.
    The clauses are that I 198cm tall so need one with a big-length, inner floor dimensions. The main main aim is to obviously be able to use in the Main Range after the trip. Cost isn't a huge thing although not really keen on spending over $900
    I have been show the One Planet Goondie (30 denier, nylon inner), anyone had any MR experience with this type/brand. Any other recommendations are appreciated.
     
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    Just pulled the trigger on the Goondie 1 30D nylon inner for solo main range ski trips, seemed to be the best balance of weight/strength/cost for solo stuff. Not that I plan to go out and use high in rum weather. It will need much more protection (trees and snow walls) than the Epoch.
     
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  38. Time

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    I can recomend the Tangent 2 from mountain hardware (220cm sleeping length) and about 2.5kg packed. If you want bomber Solo then Hilleberg Soulo is a great choice nice little vestibule as well.
     
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    My thoughts exactly @skifree . Thanks for reaffirming the advice given to me. I do like that they're largely produced here, like Mont. I do wish they came in a better colour but I get it, 4 seasons equipment is for the far-fetched traveler who generally needs best visibility in the BC.
     
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    Have wanted a Hilleberg Solo forever, I just struggle with the pricetag & the fact they're manufactured overseas - a little like MSR gear. Worth every penny?
     
  41. Time

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    MSR i don't much like the quality of in general for tents.

    Hilleberg you get exactly what you pay for. Quality of materials is excellent. Performance is excellent. I just don't have a lot of use for solo gear now was I'm usually plus 1 everywhere, otherwise it would still be my go to.

    The MH Tangent 2 a mate has and it's not as stable or solid as the Soulo but the floor and pole design really suits him as he is 197cm, solo tents are not so much about total space...but where the space is useable. I have used stuff the the RAB summit extreme single wall tents, but no way would i want to spend night after night in one.

    Lack of australian made Title for 4 season gear should be your last consideration IMO. Fit for purpose and quality should be first on the list.

    I find when travelling, anytent can be a 4 season tent with good enough snow walls and good site selection. But it's when your tired towards the middle or the end of a trek you start to make poor decisions or complacency creeps in and thats when things start to go wrong if you have poor gear, regardless of where it is made.
     
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    All sound advice, thanks. I guess having had a Mont tent for so long, it's been piece of mind that if it becomes faulty I can drive/phone in and talk through options etc with the exact people who manufacture it, something that I couldn't necessarily do with brands like MSR/Hilleberg etc. As I say it's peice of mind, but I certainly see your point.
     
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    I think the mark of good gear is that stuff doesn't go wrong. And regardless, if it does and you're doing it right, your not near any shop...

    But i agree, Mont customised a Epoch for me and did things other vendors wouldn't have.

    I've never been in high winds on an exposed ridge or in a rediculous strom and thought, gee.. a cheaper tent would have been totally ok. But every time I have been, the next morning or when the weather cleared i shook the tent off, repaired a pole or patched with duct tape (damn crampons) and packed it up and got on with my journey without issue or impediment.

    Two things i know:
    1 - no such thing as bad weather, only the wrong gear
    2 - my enjoyment of any weather is directly proportional to the quality of sleep i get.

    Good gear for me equals good sleep and more fun. You don't have to spend heaps to get good gear, my favourite gloves are $30 winter window washing gloves. But you have to know what you want to do and get appropriate gear. If your budget doesn't stretch to gear that allows sketchy exposed pitches to be safe, you always have other options.
     
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  44. Moondog55

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    One of the fellers over at Bushwalk.com had an old PaddyMade Karkampa japara wall tent for sale so I have just added another cotton tent to my collection. While I'd not recommend it for backpacking it should make a decent basecamp tent with a full frame and a full outer skin for 2018.
    Admittedly it will need some work to get it ready but old fashioned square cut tents are simply so easy to work on.
    Meanwhile I am still window shopping for that ultimate solo winter tent myself
     
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