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Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by Untele-whippet, Mar 1, 2016.
Evidently not. Nothing new about that.
I don't know. I've managed some good skiing in June the last couple of years. So I think with snow making its not too much to expect at least front valley open with good man made at least second half June. It really limits the time you want to go skiing here. You have to take out school holidays cause thats just chaos, and if you take out June before the school holidays that really leaves second half July and first half August before it turns to mush ( which Ive noticed second half of August is becoming more and more ) .........that sounds like around 5 weeks of useable slope time without long lines in school holidays.
sorry mother nature doesn't fit your own personal constraints for time or expectations for snow pack depth or quality.
Winter only starts June 1 by the calender. In reality its a few weeks to a month later.
Aus snow season really is July-August and start of september. Anything around that is due to a lucky snow system.
I dont really count skiing on man made only as part of the actual winter snow season.
We always book during August, its pretty safe. I do more OS skiing these days anyway. Its sad to say but skiing in Aus is more of a novelty to me now. A good excuse for a few days off work and a muck around on the snow with the friends and family.
Yeah yeah guys I get it. SDS hitting hard here. Sorry for being a bit I'm confident there will be a window for a bit of snowmaking before school holidays @ Perisher so I'll hit up FV when it gets there. I think I was spoilt by some lucky June conditions past few years. Even when it was only snowmaking last year it was pretty good skiing. To stay on Topic : Obs for Canberra are a nice crisp day for second last day Autumn with 14 at lunchtime. Definitely felt like winter on the Wkd though. Bleak and miserable hehe
No need to be sorry. Happens to the best of us. Im shocking a few weeks before an OS trip, checking weather forecasts every few hours and getting down if there is no fresh in the forecast for when Im scheduled to be there.
Snowmaking is great if your happy to ski man made snow on the main green/blue groomed runs. I get pretty bored skiing like that after 3-4 runs so it doesn't interest me all that much.
Patience is pretty critical when it comes to skiing in Aus and waiting for the right conditions. The over marketing by the resorts doesnt help the sufferers of SDS.
Obs wise, its absolutely glorious today, its nice to have light winds and sunshine, makes the commute that much nicer.
From memory,2 years ago BOODWAH started skiing in May and finished in October (6 months).
I have had some epic days in June and September, but yes I agree that its not the norm.
last year. He walked up Baw Baw in May. I went up on June 1.
Thats awesome for Australia to get in 6 months. Gotta be a back country guy tho and like hiking. The fact I have a new pair of HEAD power instincts to break in isn't helping the SDS I'll confess. I will be the sad guy down there when there's just FV on man made for a day trip to break the 5 month ski drought.........
Skied up BB.
Depends what the skier is after. If they are trying to progress on groomers then they will have fun for four months of the year.
30-day SOI values for the past two years
BOM showing Southern Oscillation Index well and truly back in neutral territory.
Is there any one out there like myself that is 60 something and can remember skiing before " man made and groomers " ?
Although I am not quite in your vintage I did start very young , 1968 when I was 3 , Finnish mother who insisted we be able to ski almost before we could walk. I do remember the days before all the modern " amenities" and I think it was more fun then. First time I saw cord I wondered how it was done and then cracked the because all the irregularities of natural snowfall were gone. Dont really miss some of those old rope tows as much.
Grasshopper update- 160cm peak depth estimated now.
Weak La-nina = more rain this season.
If there was snow at opening weekend it was a bonus. Since 1979 Buller has had enough natural snow to be able to ski at opening 3 times. Prior to that not much different if you look at Spencers creek records. Growing up in the North East of Vic we didn't even think of skiing until July.
yr.no - is currently showing a pump and dump on 8/9 - wed/thur at perisher resort level
King's Friday will either be a fading memory of past years or an Olympic Year repeat special.
Thesedays, June is almost as cold as July - so if there is a good slope with snow on it - be it fresh or machine - then ride it while it ain't slush - as by mid August it surely will be.
Interesting to see another point of view, guess the marketing teams at all the resorts have made everyone believe June should be the start of the season.
SDS be strong with this thread
We need to pin a post answering a few questions....
Will it snow? - Yes
Will there be snow on the ground for opening weekend? - Maybe, but history shows unlikely
Will there be snow for my trip on the 14th July? Nobody knows
Will it be a good season? Out of our control, who knows
When's winter coming? When it bloody well wants to
EC loves it
BUT, lets see what happens this weekend first - so much divergence between the models, I'm far from confident for the 8th & 9th.
I've been known to be upset after i have driven through the night to be at Thredbo for first lifts. Then on the way up the Kosi lift see snow guns blasting on a freshly groomed True Blue / Little Beauty area. FFS when its fresh, leave it fresh.
That's the one I threw up.
There's an atm in the main building
woohoo second last night of Autumn and we're expecting first subzero temps of the year at home tonight
So my experience over the past 6 years has been entirely different. One of the June LWEs we ski'd meritts on all manmade, we have often ski'd perisher on the LWE front valley, the second weekend last year, i'm pretty sure Zalis was open. Its hardly fair to compare the vic resorts with their sub alpine conditions to the likes of Perisher with snow making available in the alpine altitudes.
8th & 9th June still looking exceptional on EC. If it comes off, that's your season starter right there.
Sweet timing for resort marketing departments. Right before opening weekend.
Miles out though. Maintain lid. Unlike Geelong FC.
Last year Thredbo and Perisher opened early (on the Friday of the QBLW) and I was skiing top to bottom at Thredbo by the Sat/Sun- on natural and man made, Merrits and HN. I know it wasn't soft tasty freshies but with a season pass it was pretty damn good... People can say they don't count it as winter until there's top to bottom natural in July, but I'm more of a glass half full kind of person, and I'm just happy with whatever we can get. Bring on Jun 1st!
We very much have this attitude as well, better to have some snow than no snow
of course it is. but no snow, or bugger all snow on QBW isn't unusual or a big deal.
12z control @Claude Cat
and fitting that the last morning of Autumn and it's ****ing freezing in Melbourne. Jeepers!!!
Posted 25th May.
Just thought I'd throw this in. That should put the mocca on it.
Yr suggesting 40cm + for 9th.. Temp a bit mariginal though..
3 degrees up here in Emetald
3 in Richmond... god damn. Hopefully Yr is on the money!
12UTC run looking the goods CC?
A rather brisk 3.5c in the CBD this morning. Made for a numb face kinda walk into work from docklands today.
June 2014 was exceptional. The best I've seen in June since the mighty 2000 season.
Beautiful morning. Riding in to work was stunning.
I love these days, bay was flat, no wind, air a bit crisp.
winter knicks and full gloves I hope.
Thermal and shell also, thats all you need.
Its not really that cold. Just cold for Melbourne.
3c bayside. I was like WTF!
No wind so doesn't feel that cold.
Id take 3deg and still over 7deg and windy as F**K.
Thread already up.
It was awesome.