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The are huts really necessary thread

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by sidetrack, Sep 30, 2015.

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Are huts really really necessary.

  1. No i don't use them ever.

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  2. I will use them to socialise in but wouldn't miss them if they weren't there.

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  3. I will use them to sleep in if there in the area I'm in but I'm just as happy to use a tent

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  4. I will only go above to areas that have huts but still take a tent.

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  5. I would die if huts were removed from alpine areas

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  1. surveyorcam

    surveyorcam Hard Yards

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    If you are there. What are you doing on here????
    I thought this forum was just for people stuck at work.
     
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  2. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    oh dear not legs in tin shanty at Tawonga after deciding tent not necessary....but young Kletterer!!!

    apologies extended for this mistake to young legs....so its Kletterer who is perhaps posting that huts are unnecessary but steming from early teenage mishap ...

    again apologies extended for this oversight by the Team ...but we can see where Kletterer is a coming from....boy must hate anything to do with corrugated iron...
    perhaps he is not so much antihut but definitely has a thing about corrugated iron roofing...
     
  3. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    no.. we worked out long ago this forum exists for any idiot that has time on their hands
    ..again no personal slight intended
    posts give moderators something to do also ....more politics here than capitol hill....

    :cheers:.
     
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  4. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Wheres my Lithium ?
     
  5. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    forget the lithium that's for batteries...

    when your working hard u need magnesium....u don't want those legs cramping up when your chasing the chicks at kittens...

    bears recommend sitting quietlLOLy in a hut with your feet up to counter any mood swings.....
     
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    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    I think US needs to lay low in a hut of some description.
     
  7. Red_switch

    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    I can see how one could reach his position anecdotally, I've been on lots of operational forestry harvesting sites where animals/birds (exotic and native) will wander over for a nosey. That includes deer and even pigs - which was quite unexpected.
     
  8. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    well after sessions of chainsawing at Camp Stoneytops Team Bears have see no drop off in sightings of birds....many different species can be seen and heard every time we are in there...also birds seem to associate any forest ground litter disruption as potential for a good meal....so I am not sure what Telemark Phat is on about....maybe little animals/birds are less disturbed than we think.....I frequently get flamed robins perched on my axe handles and tools!!!:p
     
  9. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    vsg is there truth to the rumour that u are secretly rebuilding Bon Accord Hut...that would be a good place to lay low if a nice structure was rebuilt....:p:p

    but we hear there could be a problem regards access ..something about a bridge lower down..
     
  10. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    And? I've seen exotic and indigenous birds in the middle of Sydney.
     
  11. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    What didn't you see?
     
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    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    I met a man who wasn't there, he wasn't there again today, I wonder why he went away!
     
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  13. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    give the animals and birds some credit ...the species cope with wild fire and that must be a little distressing during and after the event.....so u think a little chainsaw noise is ganna upset them...also not a minute goes past in a tall tree environment without a tree crashing to the ground and flattening the understorey...must be a bit disturbing for little animals too...
    Team Bears would like to add also more than one of our :p forum members is away with the birdies so to speak...
     
  14. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    what didn't we see... probably less than most posting in this forum...but we have definitely been seeing a lot less blackberry thickets thanks to the Team... ganna have some good pics for TP to look at shortly....being performing a bit of habitat conversion.....
     
  15. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    You didn't answer the question.
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Did you wash down your vehicle before driving into the park?
     
  17. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    not even Parks do that ....but interesting diversion....

    and we note the spread of noxious weeds from gaiters/socks/pants etc....:thumbs:from bushwalkers....

    better tell the birds to to stop eating blackberry fruits....LOL
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Don't they? How do you know?

    Do you wash down your vehicle before heading off road in a park?
     
  19. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Word on the street is this chap's been running around the Parks.

     
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  20. Kletterer

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    Hows the hawkweed down there steve ?
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    well I hope u are referring to underneath the vehicle....wheel arches suspension,underbody etc...cos that's where most little seeds get a lift...but I doubt any body is adhering to this protocol...

    and unless all parties engage in this cleaning of vehicles it would be a waste of time would it not...

    maybe we could clean our chainsaw bars and brushcutter heads too....

    soil pathogens could possible gain a lift with us or anybody for that matter....even on boots...
     
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    You might doubt but do you know that no one is washing down their vehicle to avoid the spread of weeds?

    Are you?
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    multitude of weed species every where....but blackberries are the worst of them...we like it when the native grasses take back over and start shooting......got to do some spraying soon to give blackberries spring growth another poison meal....
    some worked areas are looking good...and we want them to stay that way....:thumbs:
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    so by the time you drive into an area and then return...you will possibly be spreading things...but its impractical to wash underneath ones vehicle every 5mins...o_O

    hope them choppers in KNP are also washing their skids too!!:p
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good on you for hitting the blackberries, but it would be a shame to bring in other weeds while controlling blackberry. Lots of businesses and agencies have strict vehicle hygiene protocols in place. They are in place in my work place, I also know of plenty of agricultural properties which won't let a vehicle onto the farm unless it is cleaned before entering the property.
     
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  26. sidetrack

    sidetrack One of Us

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    Well done US on destroying what could have been a really good discussion on a topic that a lot of people feel strongly about, both ways. After looking back through almost every off topic discussion was instigated by you.
     
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  27. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    nonsense of a post ...nothing is hindering any body from posting on this issue at all...what are you on about....

    Team Bears can only take responsibility in areas in which they carry out works we aint a huge funded govt body....
    but we take our environmental responsibilities seriously...

    tell me how have we destroyed discussion...we have just taken out another small section of blackberries without damaging little wattle trees.....its small bikkies but we only do so much...at least Team Bears are out trying to do a little...
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    we ask the question ....if it is critically important to wash down vehicles then why have we not got signs at seasons barriers explaining the environmental advantages of such action....

    cos nobody but nobody is doing this...and I include ecotourism industry too...

    u got 4x4's here there and everywhere but no educational input from relevant departments explaining the requirement to them....:p..
     
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    I'm interested in the ecotourism aspect. They are using State Forests and National Parks for commercial activity, is it mandatory they practice vehicle cleaning to remove soil, seed and plant matter.
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    not sure where u r going with this....folk going to Mt Ck Picnic Ground and Camp Ck Gap and mostly everywhere else in ANP R not washing their vehicles before entry or after coming out...and it would be like wise for KNP folk going to Geehi Flats and then onto Diggings or Island Bend...so what is your point...

    if it is critical then why don't Parks Vic or KNP have any signage on roads into Parks or Camping Areas...
    we take transmission of weeds seriously but if it is important then the public r not being informed...

    and if moderator desires then a new thread could be started in relation to rec vehicles and transmission of weeds etc.......

    interesting when we ford the West Kiewa we get under vehicle car wash....maybe we should drive faster and stir up H2O more under vehicle.....

    personally I don't like fords and prefer bridges cos I think its better for water quality to keep them out of river xings..but who knows maybe they all get car wash in first West Kiewa Fords they come in from Dungeys Track....:whistle:
     
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    Starting threads is not really a mods role. When we do it is not normally associated with our moderator hat.
     
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    If we "really" valued our NPs, then maybe we all stay home in our pristinely clean cars??!

    Wow, this topic is bouncing around all over the place!
     
  35. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    If folk washed down their vehicles, what happens to the detritus?
     
  36. surveyorcam

    surveyorcam Hard Yards

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    Yes nobody ever thinks of the family of detritus.
     
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    AndrewA, its about being aware of your impact so you can make an educated decision about how much effort you're going to expend ameliorating or reducing that impact. Its about not being like US and denying your impact.

    Charlie the vehicle should be cleaned in a bunded area where weeds can be easily monitored and controlled.
     
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    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    Are these bunded areas available at the entrance to every park area!
     
  39. telecrag

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    ^ anti weed brigade!
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    I don't know. Sadly I haven't visited every park. I'd like to but you know, busy life, work, family, modern pressures, this forum,..
     
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    I need to get some Roundup hats for everyone!
     
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    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    It was question, unless there is, there is not much point washing any vehicles
    :out:
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    I actually was asking how prolific it is in Vic. Alps Steve.
     
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    Bunded areas don't have to be at the Park Gates to reduce the spread of weeds into a Park. What's most important is that vehicles travel as small a distance as possible after travelling on dirt roads or off road before they are washed down.
     
  45. DJM

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    I'm sorry....I think I missed the bit where someone answered the topic question....so were huts actually necessary?
     
  46. skifree

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    If you wash down at a commercial car wash all the water is trapped and filtered and reused and the waste from the filters to landfill or some other treatment as it is not allowed to get into the drains. So I would suggest that is the most all round efficient way to do it.
     
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    Since when do questions get answered here?
     
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    Apologies for derailing this thread folks.
     
  49. Angus_McCrory

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    Has been like this since the second page.....

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    Are trains really necessary in the backcountry?
     
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