The BBB thread

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  1. dossa5

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    Here you go.
     
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    can we make requests? sort of like a technique clinic.
     
  3. dossa5

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    For any equipment thats slides technique will be found here ;)
     
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    Ski like this guy ....

     
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    Well, how about a topic?
    Anybody enthusiastic about tip rocker?
     
  6. Legs Akimbo

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    I thought this was the BBB thread? Do you need two?
     
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    I'm going to be the first to confess that I have no idea what BBB stands for. Old man skier has no idea. Can someone please elucidate unless it is vulgar. Then I can add a topic.
     
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    It stands for BawBawBel. You can make your own assessment of everything else. But beware of vortices.
     
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    Quote me and demote me if you wish. Or just post your best thread hijack. I luv it all. Skiers rule.:)
     
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    I am pondering a visit to the Feather in September.
     
  12. dossa5

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    And what type of turns would you do.
     
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    Very Special Good turns.
     
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    Do they require any special technique.
     
  15. VSG

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    I would do anyone a good turn.
     
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    You are right. I am now sorry I asked.
     
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    Brain Training! How to instantly forget how you began the run through a gaggle (is that the right descriptor?) of boarders engaged in sitting down, standing up, sliding slowly in unexpected directions, iphoning or yelling to mates on the lift, and spitting without looking.
    Anticipation is important. Or maybe repeat "Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me" while carving up their brand new tools..
     
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    How to train my brain?
     
  19. bawbawbel

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    It should reach a higher plane, but it limbo's lower and makes up limericks:

    There was a young skier from Falls
    Said "Got this sport by the nitty gritty
    My Red Bulled up brain
    Lets me ski in the rain
    And party my way up the walls"
     
  20. bawbawbel

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    It looks a bit gnarly. A remnant depth of over a meter would make it worthwhile.
    [​IMG]
     
  21. bawbawbel

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    If there is a creek under there I will find it...
    [​IMG]
     
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    But the pic gives a false indication of the gradient. It is about 30 percent (15 degrees). Green!
    Looking back 10 years, Bogong dissed the route from West Kiewa and then VSG said "Umm.. No thanks"
    Bogong:
    "I found some truly ancient track notes dated January 1968. "Starting at the North Peak, [walk] along an attractive grassy ridge which provides a stimulating snow climb in winter and finish near the junction of Feathertop Creek and the West Kiewa River. The section between the end of the grassy slopes and the river is very steep and scrubby with no track, and when coming down great care must be taken to keep on a due east bearing, otherwise there is a tendancy to swing south into the valley of Feathertop Creek."
    I haven't done this one, but I know of a group who took over half a day for the 2 km. These days the bit near the river has blackberries as well. I suspect this route is more Tasmanian style than Victorian and should be treated with respect {Could be like Moss Ridge in the Eastern Arthurs [​IMG] ). If anyone decides to try it, take secateurs and allow plenty of time."

    Actually, it is just a scrambly steep 2 hour ridge walk on the way up, and on the way down head straight for Mt Niggerhead from the point where you hit the main ridge on the way up.
     
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    Aaaah. The Feather. So much time wasted spent discussing, drawing, finding photos, shooting the breeze on that one. Needs a reunion trip, BBB.
     
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    Yes, most places we don't need to go there anymore. Get icecubes from the fridge, tip them down your collar and watch.
    http://mthotham.roundshot.com/
     
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    [​IMG]
    How about one more contour analysis to confirm my unscientific slope statement? I seem to have been labelled as a poster of poor intrinsic integrity. Wonder why..
     
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    HELLFIRE AND DAMNATION?!!!
     
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    Thank you for the useful map. It will be of interest to the telemarkers who drop in from the North Peak cornice and eventually traverse skiers right to exit down the East Ridge track.
    Of course, it does not include the entrance to the Feather run shown in Heli's photos for which we can get GPS coordinates from Google Earth, as the rusty entrance marker is easily missed. Note (Bears thread) that Google Earth actually shows distinct traces of Bogong's 1968 route, so quite a few sharper pencils have recently gone that way, surely.
     
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    What worries me BBB, is that I understand every word you wrote.

    Translation for the unwashed:

    BBB said that the tele markers will drop into Hellfire (aka the Feather) from North Peak, Feathertop. You might exit to the East Ridge track. The overhead photo, taken from a helicopter (thanks @Heli ) indicates the route to be skied. @Ubiquitous Steve has also more information, thanks in part to @Bogong reference to a late 60's walking route to the area. This information being on the net has probably encouraged some adventurous types to venture to Hellfire/Feather.

    :D
     
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    Place mouse upon each image and click... . for supreme viewing.
     
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    Is that "Razorback Road" sealed. Or would You get Your car dirty from driving along it?
     
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    Mouth washed out with soap. Go can a tomato. ;)

    One walks to one's nirvana, does not drive. Try some NSW backcountry, southerner. :D
     
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    Oboy,.. My computer hickupped and locked up, surely not because you are sending Whalers to their doom.
    Hellfire run is not fun . For the massokissed.
    The telemark run is down Bel's Glacier on the left .
    Note the patch of snow still around middle January.
    Bel's Glacier leads to the bottom of The Feather, but not a recommended scramble across to it.
    The entrance to the Feather is off picture to the left.
     
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    The Feather of Baws... according to BBB. Imperative that the unlearned click with the mouse to make big.

     
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    Luverly, luverly!
    Your arrow, however, is pointing to Bel's Glacier, quite a bit steeper than The REAL Feather, which appears at the extreme lower right (running through "Google"). That is what people saw full of summer snow back in the days when ridge travel on the other side of the "Dreadful Chasm" was easier than following a low level road that some dimwit tried to make from fallen trees.
    I have never visited it. Helis pics are a foreshortened view, it is actually longer than Spargo's Return!
    Apologies for confusing people (and myself) about twhat was where 10 years ago.......
     
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    And now my better half is disgusted that I have arbitrarily named part of a public mountain after my own good self..
    Just because I have slid it more times than any other human alive (20 minutes to climb back for another go), walked upstream under it, lovingly removed a hundred rocks that have fallen during the thaw.
    She insists that if is to be called anything, it should be named from historical research , or from a poll of interested parties.
    One year it was 4 meters thick from slidden sno and I was sure it would outlast the summer.
    Maybe it should be known as the Gippy Glacier number one, or what?
     
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    Sorry, Sugar Plum Fairy. She says "Just get the name of the creek and leave it at that!"
    But that creek is unnamed and impassable, not like the one we walk up from Swindlers to Spargo's Hut.
    I have tried and only got up a few hundred meters...
     
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    Note the indistinct return path up The Realfeather on the RHS. Google Earth should reveal location, length and gradient.
    I need more data allowance. New NBN satellite soon will do it.
    Glacier and Unnamed Creek on the left
    A plan I had which proved impossible without some climbing gear..
    Yellow - ski
    Red - walk (ha ha, frightened by the bit at the bottom))
    [​IMG]
     
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    Once more, with gusto... who is gusto?

    place rodent pointer on pic and press... .

     
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    Little pics on the left and blu arrow , YES!! But the run gotta start from the ridge and just before the snow line (trees around) so it is far right on the big pic. The glacier is half hidden in the big pic.
    These runs are BIG, my 20 minute posthole returns on the glacier were from one third of the way down.
    I recall that you suggested the mountain naming was from the sight of a HALF feather extending down half the mountain.
    There are four gullies on the right of Unnamed Creek, all snow filled on a good year. BIG half feather..
    I wonder....
     
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    nice to see the VSG graphics back again!
     
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    If in fact the Euro centric and born observers were on the north.. I think perhaps they took a Smoko, named a free burgh and went home to Harriet's villa. :)
     
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    He he
    Now I am completely lost, request heli evac,
    Your cliffs look sort of familiar, about halfway down glacier. run. Or not..
    This shot blows me away. Don't remember a 4 lane highway down the Glacier Run....
    [​IMG]
     
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    I see someone we know has been busy...


    http://www.australianmountains.com/feathertop/

    They named the mountain after the feather shaped plume of cloud that is often seen downwind from the summit. They dubbed nearby Mt Hotham 'Baldy'.
     
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    With Feathers being an uninterupted view/backdrop from my house am now more schooled about its history.
    Good read VSG.
     
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    I know nobody would use his map to go down the Northeast Spur, and the "walking down is preferable to climbing up " suggestion is a trap for young players with a snowboard on their back and a Mars bar in their pocket.
    He gives me the shivers by showing a straight route down. It would take two days with a machette instead of a three and a half hours pleasant walk from the summit. Or quite a bit longer with a broken leg.
    NEVER go down the Northeast Spur without first climbing up it and tying your spare jumper to a tree to mark where you must drop off the ridge to visit the lyrebirds and be down before dark.
    ALWAYS keep in mind that a wonderrun far down the Glacier must be followed by a climb back up unless you have packed a paraglider.
     
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    I am determined that no errors that could result in misadventure should remain uncorrected in this thread.
    It will become obvious after scrutinising VSG's map, that in the above comment you must replace "Feathertop Creek" with "Unnamed Creek" as that first named creek is well away from the area we are looking at. It means that telemarkers must cross an extra substantial ridge when traversing skier's right if they are looking for a way down via East Ridge Track.

    The significant signature of "New Feather" is that forked entrance (see above "blow away" pic).
    To fully characterise it we want altitude at both ends, length, and GPS coordinates of entrance.
    Calling a good GoogleEarther!
     
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    Good read
    My ex-wife and I were the two people in the old hut when it fell down
    We should not have been sleeping in it with over 3 metres od snow on the ground and about a full metre on the roof but were were exhausted after pushing though chest deep snow all day to get there