the BC chatter thread

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by piolet, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Team Weasel

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    ATK all the way - either Revolution or Raider 12 2.0. Inserts for both :thumbs:

    Skimo.co - Jason did me a sweet deal. Reckons they're a better choice than the Vapor Svelte (which I was also eyeing off)
     
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  2. Undies

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    Big fan of Movement. Took a pair all around Cham for a few weeks and thought they were the ducks nuts.
     
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    Is that light?? I've regressed to light downhill skis with simple 3 pin bingings . I'd be interested in weighing them, but all those heavy release and cable bindings just add weight for me,with no improvement in function.

    A
     
  4. Team Weasel

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    For a wide-ish, powder-oriented ski it is.
     
  5. Kletterer

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    Whats your opinion on the Backland UL 85 versatility wise ? How minimal is the float with the narrow tips ?
     
  6. Team Weasel

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    They are my fave ski at the moment - they are pretty much perfect for speed touring/ ski mountaineering. Great in all conditions so far (which was spring in Japan for me). Skialper weren't exaggerating in their review when they raved about it... does it all well, and like the standard Backlands, it is easy to use but still performs when driven hard. Maybe the Vertex comes close, but can't think of many better skis for skimo / fast touring.

    Tips are a bit wider than my ZG85s. About the same as my G3s (rock skis). ZG85 was plenty of ski for most days last winter.

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    Pretty similar rocker on the BL UL 85 and ZG85 - G3 has more of a traditional shape.

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    Certainly a bit of ground cooling last night on the Baw Baw plateau, even my water bottle in the tent was half iced up. Twas a spectacularly clear night with a fantastic view of of the Milky Way above, unfortunately the phone didn't do too well capturing it.
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    Nice colour....almost matches the tent :)
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    Anyone else hear reports that the Hillary step collapsed?
     
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    Yup, has been confirmed. It's just a stroll to the top now. Although you may have to queue for hours in the cold to wait your turn on it.
     
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  11. Boodwah

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    Classic cars and tele!
     
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    Fixed

    Way cool bike! Love it
     
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    Holy crap! That man is amazeballs.
     
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  17. ecowain

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    Anybody know where Scarpa F1 AT boots will be stocked this winter?

    A Cooma shop just emailed me back to say they will not be stocking them this season (but they did last season). I should have driven down to Cooma in October, when they told me they were in stock...
     
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  18. tele-whippet

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    What about the Backlands?
     
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    Maybe.

    Can you double check if you pass through Cooma to go MTBing at Thredbo again? These ones...
    http://www.scarpa.net/en/f1.html
     
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    Loretan and Troillet climbed Everest in quick fact check 43 1/2 hours, RETURN, in 1986. No ropes, no oxygen, no stopping, no standard route, direct up the North Face via the Hornbein Couloir.

    The best part is the descent...3 1/2 hours of glissading. That's ride, they slid all the way down down Mt Everest for the world's longest and highest arse toboggan.

    Killian is out of this world, but it's important to remember the alpinists that came before him too!
     
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    Also Killian has to unfortunately navigate through the crowds of punters on the hill these days.
     
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    I've got to pick up some stuff in cooma tomorrow. What size?
     
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    MTB season finished at Thredbo, next time will be with tele-stix in the van.
    Prolly going to Kaputar on QBW if no skiable snow ---- chop, chop.
     
  24. ecowain

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    Not 100% sure (I want to actually get the right size for once, instead of guessing...). Will probably be 26.5, i think.

    Thanks for checking.
     
  25. sbm

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    Well, he wouldn't have to face the crowds if he climbed the Hornbein Couloir! Bit of googling says 9 people have summited by that route...total. I reckon more people must summit via the SW ridge on your average weekday!
     
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    HOOOOTTT Boot.
    I reckon they might have them (am trying to remember where i saw some)
    Cal and ask, they have a wider range than on the website.
     
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    Yep, summit and back.
    http://www.kilianjornet.cat/en/blog/kilian-jornet-reaches-the-summit-of-everest/
    Hey GS, we were up DP over the WE - aren't the colours in the snowgum trunks magnificent atm!!!
    I did a brief internet search but couldn't find any other tree trunk that changes its trunk as opposed to leaves' colours during autumn!
     
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    The comprehensive Everest history book I have in front of me - Walt Unsworth's Everest - is a surprisingly riveting read. At least for me haha. The stories of people trying to climb that mountain...my goodness. The absolute extremes of humanity in the best and worst way.

    There's a whole chapter on various crazies over the years, who were each convinced it was their destiny to climb it first, by themselves, and had ludicrous adventures just trying to get to the mountain. Stealing planes, sneaking into Tibet dressed as monks, etc.

    Then later there's the expeditions that tore themselves apart, when egos clashed about who would get to be on the summit team.

    What also comes through, is that Tenzing and Hillary were clearly the right guys in the right place at the right time, and deserve full credit for the first ascent. They struck up an amazing climbing partnership instantly, and were literally running circles around everyone else on the expedition (racing each other up and down the Icefall, while everyone else sat wheezing in tents). They climbed a new route over an unclimbed pass into Tibet...just to go see Tibet and have a squiz at the old pre-war British base camp.
     
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    Hans Kammerlandet got to the summit in under 17 hours, pretty sure he went base camp to summit to base camp in under 24 hours albeit he used skis on the descent
     
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    What about that crazy guy that skied from the South Col, in the 80's maybe?
     
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    This same article said he summitted at midnight.....didnt know they had midnight sun in tibet/nepal
     
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    Is kilian not a punter? Why is he more worthy?

    I think kilian is amazing too, but i dont get why his box tick is any different to others. In some ways i find it a little sickening that he is doing it for a record. Why is this more valuable than some dude from shitsville who has scrimped and saved his /her 80k to get up there?

    Discuss
     
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    Because he didn't pay, so he had to do it quick so as not to get caught?
     
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    To elaborate on the plane-stealing guy. I got it wrong, he bought the plane, but the British government wanted nothing to do with him, and refused to let him refuel or give him landing rights on the way. He tore up all the angry telegrams and ignored them, and flew around all over the place to avoid British airports. He finally made it India and they managed to impound his plane. This is 1933, so we're talking like a second hand WW1 biplane. To make it that far was a ridiculous feat in its own right.

    He believed in extreme fasting and had religious visions where God told him he could do anything if he fasted enough and that he should climb Everest so everyone would see him for the prophet that he was.

    He hired 3 sherpas and paid for his hotel room 6 months in advance, to put the British off his tracks, and snuck out of Darjeeling in the middle of the night, and traveled into Tibet disguised as a monk.

    The monks at Rongbuk loved him and thought he was legit. Unfortunately he had trouble getting up the glacier and insisted - no joke - that he was sandbagged by the accounts of the Mallory & Irvine expedition, who made light of the routefinding difficulties in typical Victorian mountaineer fashion.

    He set up camp with the leftovers from the last official British expedition, and set off. The Shipton expedition found his body a year later, and buried him in a crevasse. The Chinese then re-found the body in 1960 when it emerged from the bottom of the glacier.

    True story.

    edit: His name was Maurice Wilson
     
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    If the dude in question is not using supplemental oxygen and fixed ropes, than I'd say they are equivalent. The reality is that the style of ascents will be quite different in most cases.
     
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    Because he is climbing by himself, with no supplemental help, presumably unroped and with no support to 8848M as opposed to someone tied to a fixed line with an ascender and a personal chaperone, who has all their personal gear carried up for them, has their tent put up for them, all their meals cooked and uses supplemental oxygen which physiologically lowers the peak, which is calculated to lower the achievement by 15000 ft!!!
    Farking joke!
    We don't idolise people who claim to do 100m sprint in less than 10 seconds ---- on a motorbike, with a pit crew!
    https://8kpeak.com/blogs/sneak-peak/18637335-climbing-with-supplemental-oxygen-by-the-numbers
     
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    Thats judging in terms of todays climbing 'ethics'

    When teams laid siege to everest, none of those ascents count then?
     
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    Are they ever! I don't remember ever seeing such dramatic depth of colour...and I forgot the camera....only had the phone (last minute decision to go late Sat arvo)
     
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    Of course those ascents count as they were pushing the envelope for those times.
    It's the highest place on earth and needs a bit of dignity and respect, not to be turned into a vertical cash register and rubbish dump for egos and disrespect.
    IMHO ;)
     
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    Nepalis want people to pay money, be cooked for and climb assisted. I could mount an argument that this is more valuable than alpine-stylers who dont.

    I agree about dignity and respect of the mountains. But the rubbish isnt just left by your 'punters'.

    And kilian only wanted a record for his own ego too......why is he doing it?
     
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    Agreed but it's like everybody is demanding the right to compete and be successful at the Olympics but because that standard of athletism is beyond them, they'll pay to change the rules, lower the entry requirements and goals.
    Maybe better to climb a trekking peak to assist the economy?!
     
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    Or maybe kilian does a trekking peak twice?

    Or he 'everests' mt kosciusko? Its all ego, and none is worth more than other, imho ;)

    As andy kirkpatrick says 'everest isnt a climb, its a walk. On everest you step over bodies, on a climb they scream past you on the way to the bottom'
     
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    Don't bag the K bro!!!!
     
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    Haha maybe K will come out to do the K. Is there a speed record from the top of the kosci chair?
     
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    Should be out & back from the Brumby Bar, Jindy.
     
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    To be fair to KJ, since he tried and got caught up in the avalanche last time, his website and entire ethos of the project has more been based on helping Nepal and the Nepalese. I actually think people like talking about him (as a person with unparalleled physiology and fitness) more than he likes talking about himself. He also has a nice sister.
     
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    I was up on the BHP yesterday - Kelly's & Edmondsons via Fire Trail - some brumbies the other side of Hollands Knob & very wet on the ground - still frost on the ground in the shade past noon - cooling down nicely.
     
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    For Kilian, this is also his job. All the other punters will have some way of earning their coin to get there. For Kilian, he has to keep climbing crazy things to get paid.

    Mad respect to the guy, and not just for this effort. He continually proves himself to be a freak of nature.
     
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    Cool, received another email from a shop in Cooma. They checked, and do stock the F1.

    Now just gotta get down there and hope it is the right fit for me...
     
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    "A shop"?