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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by piolet, Jul 14, 2011.
You obviously haven't been in Lithgow this week. They are not track suit pants.
Got to keep this coming drip feed.
Just got the flu on the day after my trip. Starting to feel better now and starting to froth again. When is it gonna clear again.
Unsettled next week.
Yeah, doesn't look to be a good few days of weather window for some time.
Urghhhh phone died this morning. No bogong, in Wodonga instead. Unfortunately I need a phone to do my job remotely. 3 days off it is to rest the body. SDS kicking in hard though
EC has it earlier.
After the "blizzard of oz" (as it seems to be called), I decided to head up Mt Bogong.
Given we seem to be in a bit of an avalanche cycle (or as close as you can get in Aus) and I was solo meant I was limited to mellow slopes only.
An indication of how good it was, was hinted at with the fact you could skin from camp creek gap. I've never been able to do that. EVER.
Driving up was interesting, thanks to those who "broke trail" on mountain creek rd!
The skin up was quite challenging, there was some aggressive skin track vegetation
Once you got to the snow gum line (about 1500m) things got incredibly beautiful.
NZ has some amazing backcountry toilets with a view (think pioneer hut, barron saddle), but I think I have a new favourite - well when it looks like this anyway
Eskdale Spur above Michell Hut
Looking towards staircase spur from granite flat
Late spring comparison
All ahead flank
For 2 days in the alpine, the powder was absolute champagne and I had a lot of fun on lower angle stuff just hooking it.
Personally, I don't ride the steeper parts of cairn gully alone in winter.
I'm not one to tell people how to live their lives, but not long after this photo was taken I took another photo of 3 skiers standing on the cornice on bermuda (they were there for at least 5 minutes). This is the day after the storm broke. In the middle of a cycle of rider triggered avalanches. On a wind loaded face. Where it had avalanched under similar conditions a month or so earlier. and it's a 35 degree terrain trap.
Then I watched them ride right down the middle of the gully - why not ride the ridge? Then they stopped and one skier rode down the gully right in the fall line above his mate.
Snowsense/mountain sports collective had the danger at "high" at the time, which I thought was a little overblown, I would have called it "considerable" - but nevertheless it probably wasn't a great time to be riding this kind of terrain.
They probably high-fived each other over their cheap goon bag back at cleve cole, I hope they realise how much they were pushing the boundaries of probability.
Victorian alpine beauty.
I tell you what, it was WINDY. I don't think I've ever skinned in 3 layers, but I can tell you I was here!
Now just waiting for the next storm!
Great TR mate! Lovely pics.
Fantastic photos and report Thanks
Great pics, shows the mountain at its best.
Now that is a report.
Went for a tour around hotham today. Got to use the crampons for the first time! Conditions were icey early & then mega slushy. Scars of the rain visible everywhere. Dug a pit on swindlers spur, east facing about 1550m, ~ 35 deg slope. Got a cpl of results on tap#6 (it moved but didnt pop off) at the visible discoloured icey crust about 55-60 cm down. On 3rd column got a bit more movement on it at hit #22. Total depth more then my pole fully extended, estimated 150-60 cm? Highlight of the day poaching some mellow freshies on the way home with the splitty in ski mode
Bogong attempt was thwarted by fallen tree over CC gap road...ended up back at DP as the house was vacated by tenants. Lovely afternoon stroll through the forest. Except when i found myself free climbing up the rock face at Carmichael falls! Also dead timber hill - DP brewery was a good run. 3.5km or so.
Never looks as extreme on camera. That last pitch of rock was alot taller and technical than it looks. All of a sudden i thought i was alex honnold
Fantastic. The cover looks so fresh and sexy. The "Victorian alpine beauty" pic is unreal
Went up Guth trig aiming for Tates yesterday. Turned back at top of trig, ice crust did not look or feel fun. Heavy snow down lower yuk. Back at car by 9.30. Saw others heading up, like to know how they went
Feathertop from Mackay today ...
Awesome photo definitely the most Alpine area in Australia.
Some thoughts from todays epic to blue rag
- it was warm
- so many dogs around. Had a close encounter
- biggest single day ive ever done without a bike. 31km, 1200m vertical gain
- didnt quite make summit, 1.5km away already 15km in at 415pm
- epic sunset
-4km completely downhill night ski under headlamp was awesome
- next time ill leave before midday
Last summer I had a walk to the Jaithmithangs to check out a gully that appeared to drop down a long way. Only problem was that it was a river of rock. Would it ever be any good to ski in winter?
Thought that I better get out there for a look before the rain event that's on the way.
Heading towards the gully north of Jaithmithang Peak.
Looking towards the Fainters.
The ski down ended up being better than expected. However it progressively turned into a natural bump run. Would be great fun with a foot of powder over it.
Looking down hill from where I pulled the pin at 1550m.
Had a second run down an obscure tree run through rocky outcrops south of the main peak. It was a nice ski, however I was happy to get out of there as the snow was getting too soft and fear of wet slides was increasing...
All in all, a thoroughly enjoyable day. The skin from windy corner carpark at Fall Creek to the main peak took about three hours. A bit longer than heading up Bogong from Camp Creek Gap, but not by much.
There's some sweet bowls E of the ridge hey choken.
Bit of a hike as a day trip from Falls for this little black duck.
This would have been all time during the blizzard of oz
There's some decent pitches on that track.
Great work Hongo. Have done that so know how far it is! You had way more snow than we did though. Would like to get out that way again some time. Be good to have a cheeky skidoo to get out there!
That chute at Carmichael Falls almost looks skiable too!
I must say I'm loving the random locale touring!!
Anyone got a single tech toe-piece they want to get rid of?
My daughter broke one on the weekend.
1 lonely ATK RT Race toe,
Lemme know if you want it and I'll post it down.
Has the same 4 screw hole configuration as those Dynafits you were using (no 5th anterior hole though)
Maybe some other stuff about to need a new home too, depending on the orthopod's thoughts tomoz.
Hey that'd be great.
What a great community this is
Anyone got a pair of DPS tours they're not using?
Epic, Dingos? Mad mutts? I fear someone is gonna be taken some day soon
This one looked like a wolf. The ones i saw last season looked like bear dog. Thick fur and solid. There is tracks literally everywhere. Wouldnt surprise me if someone was attacked, but generally they dont seem to bothered in my experience
Saw a dark dog on Razorback a few years ago, it was in a hurry and not interested in us at all
They are some of the best white season photos I have seen of Mt. Bogong. You picked the best day of the season to visit the big fella.I hike up and down Mt. Bogong in winter and in spring just hoping to get a day like that !
I like the photos of the Mt. Blue Rag area. I must visit that place and scout it out in green season. It has potential for a BC snow shoe /snow camping mission, as does the area around The Twins.
Skeats funky ski crampons
Stuck inside with the toys and crayons
And the label tool.
From McKay. What do you think?
Looking like there will be a good supply of corn this season. In the mean time please be sunny Wed.
today one of my (new for this season) movement vertex x skis cracked through the core in front of the binding have done alooot of resort charging and touring on them but still there was only one way to heal my pain...online shopping! sport conrad ships within a couple of days in my experience, very excited! #takemymoneyplease
also picked up a few bits and pieces, including these sunnies which i am very excited about
Thanks tele-whippet for putting up the link to the simple strap on ski crampons made by Skeats - I haven't seen a commercial version of these before. Super interesting.
I have been using a very similar system for the past 13 years and I quite like this type of setup if you are dealing with a range of skis and bindings. I started with adapting various pairs of instep crampons with the idea to have them work on both boots and on skis but found that one system for both was a compromise. I then moved on to making them out of aluminium channel but found that aluminium was too soft on hard ice resulting in them bending. So I then had an engineering firm make up a couple of variations of steel versions that were similar in function to the aluminium channel style. See the attached photo for two examples that I use. Mine are heavier than Skeats at 164g for the silver version and 142g for the black (an improvised mini instep crampon) and in some cases not as functional as a Dynafit ski crampon or similar however they do have advantages.
The Skeats look great however they wont provide much grip in breakable crust or semi-hard snow (which we often get here in Aus alongside ice) due to the low profile of the teeth/pins. With mine although the black works well on hard ice (4 small teeth) it does not work so well as soon as you move to anything other than completely solid conditions. The silver version though provides a lot more grip when moving over variable conditions and can also be safely carried in a down jacket or any clothing pocket due to the interlocking design. My brother and I have used them quite a lot and even carried one of our first prototypes on a winter AAWT trip in 2005. We use them mostly in conjunction with kicker skins and have hipbelt pockets on our packs with the skins in one and the crampons in the other. Sometimes even if its not icy I will use the crampons over the kicker skins for extra grip instead of having to carry the full weight and bulk of full skins. At other times I have carried them whilst teleing in resorts so that I can quickly climb up to get extra height and turns in. We can often transition in and out of either Kickers or crampons without removing skis, and certainly so if we help each other, which saves time on transitions. Because these style of crampons fit any ski I have also been able to loan them to friends or to fellow skiers who are struggling on an ascent or stressing about the potential fall factor. They are a fraction less efficient than standard ski crampons in that you have to lift the skis a very small amount with each step however I have found that having the crampons permanently fixed to the ski can make some manoeuvres easier with a more predictable grip. Certainly worth considering this style of ski crampon if you use a variety of binding types and don't want to buy a ski crampon for each model.
FYI: the snow forecast here in southern Tassie is down to 300m for both tomorrow and Saturday so I don't think I'll need the ski crampons this weekend.
I have one.
Well that drive home didn't go to plan. Snow from Black Perry lookout, white road from Yarangobilly, probably a foot deep under gard rails. Plow working constantly. Icy across the top. Subi went into the ditch on the bends at the Kiandra huts. Attempted pull out fails. In with mum, daughter and small kid, 2wd dual cab. Slid off going up hill after crossing the Euc, thought we were going for a bad ride downhill. Car stops short, others pull up, another 2wd dual cab, he's going nowhere either. Push women back on road, bloody win all good. Jump in with young medico going to Berridale, sweet, doh, into snow bank we go going thru bends down to Sawyers, lucky quick dig drive forward out. Slow trip off mountain. Hitch from Berridale, fire going, bring on tommorrow
Reckon you could probably ski the length of KNP at moment