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the BC chatter thread

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by piolet, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    My speed is still very low. Very much a beginner. Stem christie is when you start the turn in a snow plough and bring the inside ski in so you finish parallel. It’s used to transition from plough to parallel in alpine skiing too.
     
  2. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I call that the half plough turn.I have yet to learn telemark turns ,parallel turns etc.That is how I get down longer descents safely esp. In the back country .When you link such turns together they form a curly "s" shape down the slope with some snow being ploughed.
     
  3. Belly

    Belly A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheers. No just took those pics (the ones I've climbed) :)
    There was a pretty good coverage on the deep NE Vic hills. But Wills looked sparse, maybe just its lower altitude. I'm not a student of the Howitt area as haven't been out there personally but coverage looked good there also. There was also a snow on the ground in the hills behind Kinglake.
     
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  4. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Mt.Wills sits in the rain and snow shadow of Mt.Bogong and Mt.Nelse.
     
  5. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us

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    Cheers Belly - nice to see Vic getting a decent dose of powder.

    Kinglake might have been Mt St Leonard perhaps? At 1000m it would have copped a bit.

    Fwiw: the Howitt - Licola region is great for summer exploration - just can be quite a lot of work in winter - the old easy access /bad snow conundrum & vv.
     
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  6. Xplora

    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Wills is 1750m It didn't get much of the last top up. Some of the southern side is still good but northern side is melting fast. Skis on around where the AAWT meets the road to the hut.
     
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  7. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I love dropping into this face, big, wide, steep, it rocks. Even the climb out is good.
     
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  8. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cool seeing elevated heart rate on descent and working hard on climb out.
     
  9. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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  10. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Whad ya drop?
     
  11. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    A couple of lines looked very skiable last week....... a few (main chutes) looked like an accident waiting to happen (large cornice).
     
  12. rowdyflat

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    Did you ski it ,are there tracks down it ?
    Woohoo havent skied Club Lake for ages always too icey ,need to go later
     
  13. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    @rowdyflat was out for a bit of a toodle with the +0.95 (Mk III) so the steepest lines dropped were to the Snowy River behind Guthries. And no lines down any BL chutes the Monday before last.

     
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  14. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    I have a confession to make.

    I've not been BC at all this year and got fck all last year as well. My planned days this year were scuttled by work. Apart from Austria earlier this year, all my skiing was with the wife and kids. Wife not into the BC and kids not ready or perhaps dad's not ready to take the kids would be a more appropriate phrase.

    Have fun all. Thinking of taking up knitting.
     
  15. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ive only been out a handful of times, and have not skied any memorable lines, other than memorable the wrong way. Which is still kind of fun in a way, exciting at least. One was OK, with massive sluffing, always get a kick out of that.
     
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  16. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    2 soft BC mornings will be the extent of my 19 season
     
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  17. rowdyflat

    rowdyflat One of Us

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    Was at BL that Tuesday . Did a line on NE facing slope above the silly lookout.
    Yeah walked up in your footsteps out of Snowy river when the glue on my wife's skins was dodgy.
     
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  18. SMSkier

    SMSkier One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Few pics from today.....

    @skifree ..... saw a few tracks which I reckon may have been set by your crew yesterday.... but seemed to have been “faded out” since which was odd - that said it warmed up quick today. Run back once we reached The Foxhole was tough going. Snow was cooked by noon.

    Regardless, that climb out from below about 1600 ASL for us 60 (plus) year old farts LOL.......







    Here’s a pic of that little slide at the base of Guthrie’s peak... not the trig end of the ridge.

     
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  19. zac150

    zac150 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ok so whose taking the training a bit far?
     
  20. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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  21. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Where is the toilet going? I thought they started it at least.
     
  22. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That brown snow isn't dust.
     
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  23. Fozzie Bear

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    All around the hut....... for the time being
     
  24. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    As usual. Poo Tube people, or hold it in.
     
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  25. smackies

    smackies A Local

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    I get uncomfortably hot just looking at that.

    Edit: gee, that sounds wrong.
     
  26. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Did a run down Foxhole last Thursday with +0.95 (Mk III) before the storm came in...... was mostly porridge and most unpleasant.

    Far end past the cutes? Any idea of the trigger?
     
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  27. ecowain

    ecowain One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Open air toilet? Pull on a pair of communal toileting overboots, then let go anywhere...
     
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  28. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It actually looked & smelt ok today. But there was 1500 deep snow about the hut & 40 to 50kph of breeze.

    There may or may not have been a crew domiciled there.

    We camped down onish the Snowy below Clarke.
     
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  29. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lee, top 50 vertical was frozen sand paper 10 grit. After that it was weirdarese fun with a mix of soft boot high strastrugi (the white stuff) frozen tinkles (the brown stuff.





    Club Lake chutes looked sketchy.

    Some one had dropped a line off Northcote, but looking at the ski track the snow / surface looked more work than fun.
     
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  30. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    No sign of it, unless all well buried.
     
  31. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Club Lake chutes are loaded & looked to have a fair bit of ice at the drop in for a fair bit of vertical based on what we looked at elsewhere.

    Strastrugi everywhere, big strastrugi.

     
  32. Gimp

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  33. pegasusSki

    pegasusSki Hard Yards

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    from memory Stems don't last long, then you start parallel once you unweight or roll? which I think I did on Day 2 - I just watched and followed this French instructor. I am not sure what a step turn is used for.
     
  34. Ramshead

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    this is one of my fave pics of the year. Love it. Can I tweet it on my daily twitter snow pic, and if so, whom shall I credit? Onya
     
  35. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ok, credit skifree. Ta.
     
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  36. DPS Driver

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    Yeah! It's a cracker.

    It looks more like white water at the beach.
     
  37. SMSkier

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    Not sure to be truthful... looked like wind slab that naturally let go. Was hard to tell from the oversnow.
     
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  38. Xplora

    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    http://www.skixc.com/step-turn.html
    This could be what he means but there are other types of step turns used for Alpine skiing on steep slopes. I am no expert. Could be hard for Mr T to parallel with skinny, non waisted skis and NNN-BC set up. His Epochs are waisted but the boots and bindings would make it hard. He could learn how to Tele but that is harder still.
     
  39. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Step turns allow you take corners and change direction on XC skis without losing speed or momentum , whereas half plough turns tend to cook off the speed you have achieved especially on a slow surface such as spring afternoons in the sunshine.
     
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  40. ecowain

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    I always thought that step turns were what were best used in crusty grabby backcountry snow to avoid railing or catching edges when skiing with a big pack.
     
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  41. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I cannot ski with a big pack so I use step turns to keep moving and turn on slightly descending bends and not slow down . I am still evolving as an intermediate skier so I am sure all these techniques have many applications.
     
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  42. telecrag

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    Moving kick turns with a pack! Downhill!
     
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  43. skifree

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    Think it went Monday (maybe Sunday), suspect natural slide, I’ve seen them about there in prior years.

    Curious as i don’t think it’s that steep to automatically be in self shedding category.
     
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  44. pegasusSki

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    Interesting - actually, I see the benefit to such a turn with a pack in conditions that might dictate it.
    Have to admit, it's why I like the idea of sidecuts and cables if not using AT.

    As I have said before, I am a hack and I am sure these skills make you a better skier all up in the long run.
     
  45. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    PS we (well my very able wingman @JohnK ) cut a hole through the very thick ice in the Snowy to get water at

    55H 0615933 5966348

    If you are looking for water in that area.

     
  46. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I will take my whippet ski pole for excavating , in case I become thirsty when I am up there in a week or two.
     
  47. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You will not be able to whippet.
     
  48. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    When a problem comes along you must whippet!
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Carry 2 to 3 litres of water at present on sunny long days until further notice.

    All the MR water courses are well covered.

    The ice we cut through was 300 mm thick.
     
  50. Untele-whippet

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    Unpossible!
     
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