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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by piolet, Jul 14, 2011.
Welcome to the correct side of the border Ziggy!
I'll being heading up from Guthega Monday morning with satanas - probably camp near Sentinel Ridge. Weather window looks pretty good at this stage. Might see some other ski.com folk up there?
Thanks TW .... beautiful morning today but can live without the wind.
Was hoping to get up on the Main Range today but it's gusting to 50 kph from the NW at Thredbo top station ATM and 50-60 forecast.
Hey Damian, glad you finally made it up! if you see an older gent ticket checker at kosci express called Rob say gday from Pini.
The sunset last night was incredible.
mr, we went over Heathy Spur and onto and up Baker Spur bypassing Eddy's and out to Spion camping just below the 1st peak on the Spion on Friday. We poked out along Spion on Sat but the surface was boiler plate with a good breeze. Clearly the weather was going to get worse before getting better so we tootled back to Johnsons Sat PM to camp in a more sheltered location. Got a couple of runs on the North West side of Nelse Sat PM very late. Sun was 10 to 15M visibility so we gave it away to tootle back to Falls for a shower, glass of red looking while looking into the greyness and catch the bus back home to Adelaide.
Nothing like day in Jindyie sauce & coffee.
Was that nice new hut Constances burnt down ?It was easy access from below Island Bend in times of bad weather sojorn.
Cos that used to be good place to hide while Main Range weather blew and blew.
Pini - sunset was great! As I drove in to Jindy the lake turned pink.
Greame - I think I met Satanas today. And Monday is a free day for me so may well be heading out for some non-work-related exploration and skiing.
Ziggy - I was going to ski over the Karels T and say hi to the lady working the lift that day. I had met her the previous evening. However the wind was so strong agaianst me I couldn't manage the slight downhill but long traverse from my position! Gusty. Today I remained low and enjoyed the views around Perisher with a few runs on Mt Wheatley.
Battery seconds from empty. Will be camped at Island Bend tonight.
Perisher trails or Big Boggy/Chimneys/Teddys Hut area or Bob's Ridge - Cascades Hut return from DHG might be more sheltered from the wind.
Also out of the wind for a day scoot, Guthega Power Stn - Disappointment Spur - Whites River Hut - HorseCamp Hut - GPS (not sure about the snow low down though)
Thanks for the tips TW.
I could've gone hunting but decided on a lay day; aching thighs from trying to keep up with TC yesterday ;-}
On Monday already the snow was getting thin and patchy at DHG.
Tucked in out of the wind in the Twynam bowl at present. Hauling way to many toys around but great to be out. Should get some nice runs in after brekky tomorrow.
its a slushfest out there!
ah skifree, missed you by a day. We went out in the nasty wind and rain and cloud on sunday, followed the poles and spent a couple of nights at edmonsens. Spent Monday skiing the bowl near edmonsens, over at nelse and perhaps run of the day off spion kopje down to the creek, then the big climb out over baker spur back to edmonsens. Nice cornice slide off nelse, i'm sure its been bigger! Then out over heathy yesterday. Might post some pics
i think Nelse north looked the best, but didnt get down there, ran out of legs. Best snow was in the lower half of each south-east face.
view from near the dunny
out to timms the big fella behind right
cornice slide on nelse
corrrugated rain damaged snow near falls, strangely only in this spot
funny old clouds over heathy
There's something strangely attractive about that rain guttered snow
yeah! it is strange, cause its really bad to ski on! but very pretty
on the way out the sky, the snow and the freeze on rocky valley dam all had the same pattern
mr, we saw you when you were heading out while on our way bakc in on Sunday. I recognise the Salmon and Pavo? skis in your Eddys pic.
ah no skifree - those skis belong to a fella and a lady dressed in red who were heading out on Sunday who also stayed Sunday night. We were the Men In Black if you saw some heading out along Watchbed similar time Sunday
run of the weekend from top to bottom and a climb out to edmonsens
Mush fest alright. I'm not sliding. Need some wax badly or a bone will get broken soon.
But a great day for me.
I started late at about 10.30am from the Nordic Hut in Perisher. Headed around to Mt Wheatley again, up and along the entire Wheatley ridge. A peaceful and easy traverse. Scrambled a few outcrops of granite at the end of the ridge and from what I temporarily (and jokingly) named 'damians dive' I skied a short but fun SW line down to Betts Creek (the wrong side of the ridge). From there I headed a long way around the end of the ridge on gentle partly snowless terrain to the oversnow road, crossed that, then crossed a very nice stream and climbed Paralyser to the high point, then skied SE line from there. Great terrain. All of it, everything I could see. Then climbed what I nicknamed 'The Middle Finger' which is the ridge that runs to the south between Paralyser and Mt Perisher - skied a horribly sticky run from that down to the base of Mt Perisher west face. Climbed that and got in a sneaky run on resort terrain - nice to ski some hard snow rather than slush, but the chopped bumps were hard work on old legs and my light skis. At the bottom of that everyone was loading onto a T-Bar, and I really did not like the look of the oversnow road as a return route, so I climbed Wheatley again and traversed teh ridge back to then ski a fun short little glade run back towards the lodges.
The Paralyser zone and the back of Mt P is without doubt some of the nicest terrain I have seen for that gradient and style. If I could take it back to Hakuba with me, Hakuba would be improved markedly.
Sounds like a great day, inspiring. We often spend so much energy trekking out on the main range when there are some nice lines closer by.
Much to be said for slackcountry skiing; warm accomodation, hot showers and normal food amoungst them.
Is the definition of slackcountry these days "anything that doesn't require a tent"?
Pini - yes, starting out quiet and small and remaining near to civilisation on terrain with no-brainer easy routes back out. It is my first time ever here, so no need to rush it, and the Main Range isn't going anywhere soon and I may well end up skiing here very year for the next 20 years. Baby steps for me in a totally new mountain and weather setting.
If some fresh snow arrives and the weather is not terrible my plan for Monday is oversnow to CP, then ski back to PB with a few runs on Guthries Ridge, then up the west aspect of Paraliser for a few runs off that, then up the Middle Finger (what is that actually called?), hit a nice pillow bowl that seems well known judging by the tracks I saw, then up the flank of Mt P and something off that to the road.
How hard is it crossing Spencers Creek? The map makes it look wide downstream of 1700m.
What is the vegetation like of Guthries Ridge as it extends to the north? Looks like a nice long ski, bit flat in places, but long. Then cross Spencers Ck and climb the NW aspect of Paralayser? Perhaps ski one run back down that as well.
Saw a sled track up Paralyser as well. Makes sense I guess, but glad the the noisy thing wasn't there when I was.
Sounds like a good plan. May not need to get oversnow, could probably get to Guthrieâ€™s fairly easily from Guthega (or from Blue Cow terminal).
Sled track was NPWS inspecting infrastructure in farm creek that supplies water to Guthega. Other agencies have also been out training. Normally there wouldnâ€™t be sleds in the area.
we know it was you poaching lines.
wouldnt even dream of it
4 days til 10 days at hot ham for me!
given the conditions the slackcountry might be the place after the village loop is worn out
Did you bring your sept trip forward mr?
Hi GS, this is the family trip to the place of the flying horse....hopefully there is a September trip this year....i think you are there first week september, yeah?
Gonna line up some lessons with Dossa this week. Must remember to line up lessons. Only 7 lifts up at hotham now
We're there second week, 11-16. Might be drift skiing only if this weather keeps up!
could be 3 bloody metres too, going on last year! Fickle, fickle business
Went for a chookfoot from Selwyn to 4 Mile Hut in the rain on Saturday.
The Guides with the Switchbacks and T3's were great, didn't have to take off my skis at all but the snow was marginal and some shrub/grass intimacy was required.
There were 4 guys in the hut settled in for the day.
The north face of Table Top Mtn was bare of snow.
If it doesn't snow soon, there will be no more touring in Nth KNP this season IMO.
On the way back I put up the newly acquired 2nd hand Golite Shangri-La 2 ($120) for a brew out of the pi$$ing rain, excellent shelter at 650 grams and packs down to almost nothing.
5 hours of happy dampness, to find at 3.15 pm Selwyn has hot food from 12.00 - 3.00 pm ONLY.
yeah cool shelter
What has 4Mile got as heater?Potbelly or open fireplace?.
Sad to see snow depleted already out there.And also what about Brocken Dam just on a piece.
And you could not make it to Cabra Gen Store for nutritional sustenance!!??
Steve, 4 Mile has a pot belly, didn't get to Broken Dam as the hill out out 4 Mile Saddle was unskiable cos of lack of snow (and it was pouring rain and I was feeling wussy)
Went back to Delaneys Hut for a dry out + home cooked hotness
One of my best days ever today (I have a lot of them though). 10cm of smooth pretty soft fresh snow with no wind. i skied 1000m vertical on various aspects between Guthries and the Paralayser - man there are some great zones in there. Unfortunately the last run was very bad breakable crust after the cold shade hit snow that had become a bit moist during the day - I skied it really poorly. A big swarm of police were out doing circle work on sleds this afternoon on the lower end of middle Paralyser. Kind of destroyed a gentle slope i was going to take my wife to next week. Such is life.
Tomorrow I may head out to Twynam.
Sounds good Damian. Might be time to repack and get back into it.
I managed to sneak out for an hour and a bit this morning. As Damian says, it was great. I had my best run of the season down the back of Mt P, a few hundred metres of untracked 10cm of fresh. Then up the paralyser and with some nice open turns down to the creek. I was running late to work and had a to practically run up the back of Eyre.
Damn those coppers on the sleds its normally nice and peaceful down there.
Glad you're still getting stoked in Aus Damian
Looks like I'm moving to Canberra, bye bye Vic BC, hello Western Faces
You'll be changing the left hand side of your avatar then ?
Maybe not this year or perhaps October long weekend if cover permits
Sounds like the only positive thing about Canberra :its proximity to Snowy Mts.
Freezo the nutso and no decent nightlife.Probably to cold for stripper clubs too!!
CBR actually has a coupla nice microbreweries and some fun bars. In my old man opinion, anyway.
A couple of gopro grabs of the Perisher slackcountry, it was nice!
(sorry for the large images, forgot to resize before uploading)
I had another one of my best days ever today.
8.30am start at Guthega for trip up Mt Twynam in great low wind conditions and mostly good vis. Snow was only slightly wind effected and variable, however mostly dry and loose - very good 'mountain snow'. I have had worse mountain snow many times in both Hakuba and Chamonix. The weather closed in by about 11.30am. I was back at the car by noon. 3.5 hours round trip was a bit rushed however when alone I like to get up, down and out... quickly. Also, the weather started better than forecast so i had a suspicion of an early change, which came in as I crossed Illawong Bridge on exit.
I saw some people around up there - a pair of skiers, a solo guy who I waved at, some people camping along a steep windlip, a large (guided?) group and guy and girl heading up for a multi-day.
It was my first time in that area and I loved it. I really really did. Great terrain with so much more to explore and perfectly good snow given the way things can be in any alpine setting. -6 on the summit and no one around at all, not much view as the clouds came in from the west on a light wind. skied off just as I lost perfect vis and had a nice fast descent on easy terrain in eerie fog and filtered sunlight.
Went down to Jindabyne for lunch and a coffee and some shopping (saw Pini in the supermarket) then went trout fishing in the lake along with some beer in the sun. I was hoping so much that I would catch one to top off the perfect day.
Camped at Island bend last night and was woken at 1am by two big kangaroos licking my van. Is that common? It was the strangest thing, and the strangest sound quite loudly echoing into the van whilst I lay there. I'll tell the full story later. My van is now mostly cleaned with just mottled patches of road dust and lick marks everywhere.
The roos love that salty slush, they set off my car alarm all the time!
all animals seem to like licking salt. Cows often hang around salt outcrops and lick the soil. I've been pumping salty water out of the ground for the past little while. GOats been hanging around a small leak in the pipeline everytime i go past that spot.
And i quite often hang out at the local pizza shop for my dose!
nice pics pini.
Damian - I'm a chance for Firday/saturday now due to changed work schedule. Looks like good weather window. You still about then?
Blowy - lets go for Friday. Working the Wed and Thur then again Sat and Sun.
Local roos appear to have a mineral deficiency in their natural habitat diet.
where were you thinking for friday? Graeme is supposed to be out near the Sentinel this week (not sure of exact dates). If he is still around i wouldn't mind heading out there for a ski with him. If he is camping out friday night i am tempted to take light weigh o/n gear and hook up with him. In this case you could head up for the day then ski back to Guthega on your lonesome on friday afternoon. If graeme isn't about then Mt Tate, leatherbarrel or twin valleys could be good for a day trip. Definitely better value there in terms of skiing time vs travel out.
PPP- you any chance of having friday off?