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The big Myoko/Madarao thread - 2016/17

Discussion in 'Japan' started by M_G, May 16, 2016.

  1. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Bus from Akakura doesn't leave till 11.35 so you won't get into Iiyama until 1.05. Then you have to swap to the Nozawa Liner. So that won't work. Schedule here.

    You'll have to bite the bullet on the taxi or get up early for public transport. Make sure to get your hotel to pre-book the taxi. They usually can't do it at short notice.
     
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  2. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Stay somewhere that will take you most of the way or pick you up from the train station. One of the things to check out when you book accommodation.
     
  3. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you build it - they will come!

    Tentative - not official. Don't ask me re price. I don't know yet.

    Sorry @Kash , pic disappeared, now replaced.

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  4. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Seeing lots of buses with that logo. Assuming it is a new set of local buses. Very different from the previous ones th t were running around.
     
  5. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    MKK = Myoko Kogen Kanko bus company, based in Nakago. Been around for quite awhile now. Recently they have taken on the local bus services from Keinan Bus company and have also expanded their charter fleet. So that's why they are more noticeable.
     
  6. Kash

    Kash Hard Yards

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    Hey, I'll be in Myoko solo from 15th to 20th Jan. Is there others around that want to go riding? Just keen to try out some of the tree runs there but not overly keen to do that alone. Thinking of hiring a car so I can visit Madarao for a day also unless there's a better way.

    Cheers,
     
  7. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    After hiring a car last season I wouldn't do it any other way in future. It gave so much flexibility.
     
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  8. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Madarao? Did you look three posts above yours Kash? Depending on where you are staying you will always find crew to ride with.
     
  9. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you pick the right place to stay ;) there will be lots of chances to go to Madarao. And unless you know someone that can help you it will be difficult to hire a car in Myoko Kogen.
     
  10. Kash

    Kash Hard Yards

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    Thanks guys. I'll make sure I stay in the right place then! Still haven't sorted accom yet.

    Yeah, when I said I'd rent a car I'd do that from Nagano not Myoko.
     
  11. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ant and Nick meet again, this time in Japan, in Myoko, at Red Warehouse.

    Enjoy the trailer. Full production arriving soon!

     
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    these days, what's the best option (money wise and time wise) to travel from Narita to Myoko? I recall sth about a train....
    is that the cheapest and quickest option?
     
  13. Froff Life

    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    http://powderhounds.com/Japan/Honshu/Myoko-Kogen/Getting-There.aspx is a pretty handy resource. I think train is the quickest option, and would be the most cost effective too. Depends if you have a rail pass?
     
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    I don't think it would make much sense (money wise) to get a rail pass for just to train trips (i.e. Narita-myoko and myoko-narita), right?
    What's it like travelling in the train with a ski bag?
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    You're right, it's not economical to get a rail pass if you're only going from Narita-Myoko and then back to Narita.

    However, are you also doing other travel whilst you're in Japan? If so then definitely look at getting a rail pass. But if it's purely a ski trip with one destination then a rail pass isn't the best option.
    I've never had much trouble with large bags, there is a luggage storage compartment in most carriages, it won't fit larger items but most of the time the Shinkansens aren't full.
     
  16. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    Keisei Skyliner: Narita - Ueno
    Shinkansen: Ueno - Nagano
    Shinano Railway: Nagano - Myoko Kogen

    Y10,770 - a bit over 3.5 hours

    Should be pretty easy off peak.
     
  17. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheapest is usually bus. Fastest is train.
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Then taxi or accom pick up from the station
     
  19. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Every option to Myoko you can think of here
    Every local option in and around Myoko here
     
  20. argento

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    cheers lads!
     
  21. Born2ski

    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    I don't think the Nagano to Myoko Kogen train is now covered on the JR rail pass. Didn't JR sell that section of track when they opened the Shink extension ? @M_G
     
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    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    Plenty of room on the shink for a ski bag. The local train to Myoko Kogen can be more challenging depending on how full it is.
     
  23. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep Nagano to Myoko kogen is a different train company. Requires a separate ticket bought at Nagano. 870 yen? or something like that.

    Joetsu/Myoko to Myoko Kogen is another company. But you get some discount if you have caught the shinkansen to Joetsu/Myoko.

    ^ this. But there is a new JR East Nagan/Niigata pass that is cheaper than the previous one and covers a smaller area. May make it worth getting.
     
  24. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Interesting. If anything we have found it the other way around.
    Biggest challenge is the stairs at Myoko Kogen. And there is now a sign saying the slide is for luggage only.
     
  25. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Covered to JoetsuMyoko Station or Nagano Station but the line to Myoko is now private as skichanger mentioned.

    Nice find on that pass skichanger.
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sandy posted on the pass a while ago somewhere in another thread.
     
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    Go the train. Fastest and easiest, especially after a long flight. Board bags will always be a hassle but I've always found a way to stash them. The Hyperdia site will plan your trip for you. Just print it out and follow the signs...
     
  28. M_G

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    Nice find on that pass skichanger Sandy
     
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    hatto One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Usually plenty of room but I always carry an old boot lace with me. If no room, stand the board bag up in the gangway and tie it to a handrail:thumbs:
     
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    hotsaki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Just dont do what I did and couldnt get the knot undone at Hamamatsucho station.Long story.What a nightmare.Will take a bowie knife next trip.
     
  31. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    NOT a good idea. Any knife longer than 10cm is illegal!!! ;)
     
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    hotsaki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    True.How about cut throat razor?
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Gees we just had a visitor make a trip to Seki City to buy Damascus knives. Definitely blades longer than 10cm. But they are kitchen knives.
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    mmm wondering if that out does my mogul skier's recent effort. Caught a super express shinkansen that stopped way less often than most. So Nagano ws stop 3 I think and then only Toyama and Kanazawa. Caught the 2nd last train of the evening. Slept through Nagano, cause it was not enough stops into the trip, and then spent the night in the waiting room at Toyama.
     
  35. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, it's like carrying them. So for example, you're not allowed to carry a knife longer than 10cm if you're fishing.
     
  36. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's open all night? Lucky him. I've been left sleeping outside of stations that close up after the last train leaves, once with my backpack still locked in the locker. That was before I discovered the cheap joy of love and capsule hotels though.
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not to forget Karaoke places as a good, cheap emergency option!!!! ;)
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    He had less than 200 yen on him. and a flat battery on his phone. Sigh! Poor DH was at Nagano to pick him up. Thankfully there was wifi and he managed to charge his phone in some weird power point. So we found him but not to be recommended.
     
  39. Paradox

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    Maybe a small bungy cord instead?
     
  40. hotsaki

    hotsaki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I will be taking one meter of large soft rope.Easy to undo.The look on my cousins face when everyone had got off and the doors closed then the opposite doors opened and the hordes came teeming in was priceless.Well worth it.
     
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    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    By going to the remote and almost untouched village of Myoko

    Sorry, just cleaning the coffee off my screen....:eek:

    Staying in Morino Lodge.

    They're going all out authentic, hey? :whistle:
     
  43. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Remote ROFL untouched ROFL and I didn't bother reading further. So glad we are out of the village and away from .... mm the embarrassing behaviour of some westerners. So glad they shuttle bus will probably be full which will limit them to Kanko and Onsen.
     
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    Well, we have awesome guests. So unless we get people from other hotels banging on the windows like creepy clowns I think it's all good.

    [​IMG]
     
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    This is actually hilarious. I find it odd that they are suggesting that you can so easily hike out of the Akakan top lift to hit the untouched snowfield. It's proper dangerous territory if you don't know where you are going.
     
  46. M_G

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    Yep, yep, yep. That exactly happened two seasons ago. Guy hiked up, bad weather, no equipment, zero visibility - skied straight across a terrain trap and that was that. Maybe only 300m above the lift. Ski patrol were lucky to find his body before spring. Just happened to put a pole down in the right place.
     
  47. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    ?? no-one said any of the badly behaved people were your guests. You complain about the bad behaviour in the village more than me :confused:
     
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    they recommend to bring swimwear for the hot-tub... really? swimwear for an onsen?
     
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    Are there any good ski/board shops in Nagano? We're spending a day there before travelling to Myoko, might need to get a couple of things.
     
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