The coming Japanese season 2013-2014 weather

[Sandy]

Japan's hot summer seems to have turned the corner towards the cooler seasons this week.
Tokyo has had its first sub 30 degree daily maximum since June, and earlier this week, its first sub 24 degree overnight minimum since the same period.

Japan recorded its hottest day on record last month (41 degrees, with humidity just under 50%). The rainy season also started and finished earlier than usual, so the heat started earlier as well.

It look to me like the heatwave was related to the heatwave in China, when the wind was blowing from the west, rather than the normal SW summer winds.

 

[ojisan]

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has the JMA released any early long range forecasts yet?

 

[Sandy]

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has the JMA released any early long range forecasts yet?

Sep & Oct above average, Nov normal.....

But I've never really thought they were much good.

 

[jorgo]

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How does this year compare to last years lead up to the season?

 

[Sandy]

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It was hotter this year, but last year it took until the 3rd week in September to cool down to 25-26 degrees. We'll see when it cools down this year.

Unlike Melbourne, for example, Japan often cools down/warms up in Quantum steps.
E.g. About the 2nd week in July, it jumped from mid/high 20s to 32-33, while most other years, that doesn't happen until 2 weeks later.

And in december in Tokyo, it usually jumps from 14-16 degree, down to 8-10 degrees around the 3rd week in december.

 

[jorgo]

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So nothing telling as yet? What sort of year usually precedes a good season?

 

[Sandy]

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So nothing telling as yet? What sort of year usually precedes a good season?

That's very hard to say!!!

Perhaps the only thing to say is that if it cools down more than normal in November, the season will start early!!!!!!!

HOWEVER, many people subcribe to the idea that if the season starts early (like last year) it will warm up early, as it did last year.

 

[jorgo]

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early start is fine by me, just less rain this year would be nice!

 

[Sandy]

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early start is fine by me, just less rain this year would be nice!

The reason for the rain last season, was that it warmed up early. (because of the number of "systems" that came through, which was unusual)

 

[Donza]

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early start is fine by me, just less rain this year would be nice!

The reason for the rain last season, was that it warmed up early. (because of the number of "systems" that came through, which was unusual)

Last year the Siberian High wasn't established for any great length.

It was a windy moist and not particulary consistently cold winter

 

[Sandy]

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early start is fine by me, just less rain this year would be nice!

The reason for the rain last season, was that it warmed up early. (because of the number of "systems" that came through, which was unusual)

Last year the Siberian High wasn't established for any great length.

It was a windy moist and not particulary consistently cold winter

The consistent northerly only kicked in for around 4 weeks, and that was around mid Dec to mid Jan.... Very strange season.

 

[Kimski]

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I predict that my absence this winter will mean an epic year, especially in the Nagano area.

 

[SnowBound]

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is there such thing as a bad season in japan? thinking of heading over jan

 

[Kimski]

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You can get unlucky anywhere SnowBound. I managed to get 2 warmish days with torrential rain during my one week in Hakuba this year. That was late January / Early February. It was a strange year though as mentioned above.

At least the snow pack depth was pretty good so no bare patches to worry about like in Aus / NZ.

 

[smitty484]

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Look at hakuba 08/09 season. Brown dirt patches in Jan. it does happen

 

[smitty484]

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I have a vague recollection that Karen97 was there that year and posted some pics showing the very average conditions

 

[Donza]

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Yeps. Sakka was brown

 

[smitty484]

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i assumed discussing japanese weather would be considered on topic. apparently not

 

[Sandy]

i assumed discussing japanese weather would be considered on topic. apparently not

It's ok, I just deleted it...... it's only september!!

Carry on.....


(it's what happens when you get home from work dripping with sweat..... )

 

[smitty484]

ok thanks. as this year hasnt started, we dont have much to discuss apart from how previous years went and how that might compare to this year

 

[Sandy]

Fair enough!

 

[Wardy]

After 2 days of rain in Hakuba a few years ago, when in Japan now, we look to Hokkaido. Ain't traveling north for rain; can get enough of that here.

 

[Sandy]

After 2 days of rain in Hakuba a few years ago, when in Japan now, we look to Hokkaido. Ain't traveling north for rain; can get enough of that here.

Which month was that?

 

[Wardy]

That was mid January 2010 Sandy

 

[smitty484]

you can get rain in Hokkaido too. In fact, you can get rain in japan, canada, usa, europe etc etc etc.

 

[Wardy]

You can. I like to limit the chances of it.

 

[smitty484]

the problem with confining yourself to hokkaido is that you really limit your terrain choices

 

[dr80]

Hokkaido

'....really limit your terrain choices' srs?

24 ski fields with 400m or more vertical.
And another 14 with at least 250m.
Virtually the whole place covered in snow
and mountains as high as 2291m

 

[smitty484]

yeah because most people ride backcountry. also lolled hard at 24 ski fields. most of those are muppet hills with a small number of lifts. Theres a small number of resorts with actual variety, and while fun, it is limiting.

 

[dr80]

...we're not all black diamond experts.

Sure there's more terrain on Honshu 'cause it's a lot bigger'
but there's plenty of 'muppet hills' there too

 

[Sandy]

Let's get slightly closer to the topic.

 

[ODNT]

That was mid January 2010 Sandy

I remember , we were feeling a little depressed , flights booked & hearing some hukuba ski instructors took off in feb, no work . We landed early march , snowed everyday , skied pow everyday except 2 , no crowds. gold.....

 

[TJ]

Locals are talking about the masses of white moth this summer being a sign of a big snow year. It was certainly something I haven't seen before.

 

[Sandy]

Interesting!!!!!

 

[main street]

Locals are talking about the masses of white moth this summer being a sign of a big snow year. It was certainly something I haven't seen before.

I'll take that as a good sign for moisture making its way across the pond.

 

[Sandy]

Locals are talking about the masses of white moth this summer being a sign of a big snow year. It was certainly something I haven't seen before.

I'll take that as a good sign for moisture making its way across the pond.

Well, in Japan, if the wind blows from the north in winter, there will be snow regardless of any signs of moisture!

 

[main street]

Locals are talking about the masses of white moth this summer being a sign of a big snow year. It was certainly something I haven't seen before.

I'll take that as a good sign for moisture making its way across the pond.

Well, in Japan, if the wind blows from the north in winter, there will be snow regardless of any signs of moisture!

Ahhh,..... We call that a polar outbreak over here.

 

[Sandy]

Locals are talking about the masses of white moth this summer being a sign of a big snow year. It was certainly something I haven't seen before.

I'll take that as a good sign for moisture making its way across the pond.

Well, in Japan, if the wind blows from the north in winter, there will be snow regardless of any signs of moisture!

Ahhh,..... We call that a polar outbreak over here.

Well no, it's different.... You're further north. Only thing required (all season) is a northerly, no storm system, no cold front.

 

[dawooduck]

Ducks going Japow again this year ...

 

[main street]

You may as well.

Not much incentive to hit Japow once 2015 rolls around......

 

[telenomore]

First signs of Autumn at Mt Hakun, behind Asahi Dake. Air cool and.....Gotta love early autumn in Hokkaido.

 

[hatto]

You may as well.

Not much incentive to hit Japow once 2015 rolls around......

What's happening in 2015

hatto

 

[hotsaki]

You may as well.

Not much incentive to hit Japow once 2015 rolls around......

Why?

 

[hotsaki]

Will it be the end of the world>?(EOTW)

 

[Sandy]

Stay on topic.

 

[dawooduck]

If I may elaborate the confusion before we get back on topic.

I am going to Japow again this year but in 2015 I am actively planning to be living in Edmonton and roaming the CanPow highway each winter for the foreseeable future so ....

Not much incentive to hit Japow once 2015 rolls around......

Back on topic ... study months, observe ducks ... Japow will be epic this coming season

 

[Sandy]

It's the first sub 22 degree overnight temperature in Yokohama, probably since June!! Yesterday was also below 27 degrees max.
It will warm up a bit in Tokyo for the weekend, but half of the days seem to be below 30 ATM.

 

[smitty484]

First 32C day in brisbane, which means japow is on its way

 

[Vermillion]

Hells yeah.

 

[tr+h]

Rain and lower temps at niseko next few days = ground cooling ? Surely?