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The great Hammo-ing of 2020

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by CarveMan, Aug 16, 2020.

  1. Chookfooter

    Chookfooter One of Us

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    Worked maybe?
     
  2. Sadie

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    And make a vaccine for the Rona? You know, just whilst you’re on a roll
     
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    Looks like avatars are restoring?
     
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    Jeepers, sounds like a nightmare.
    Well done and thanks for getting it sorted.
    Our lives have become so dependent and vulnerable on IT
     
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    smackies A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think there was even a complaint from London...
     
  6. coops

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    Great work fixing it....mostly lurk on here these days, but definitely missed the pages over the weekend.

    Reminds me of the days when I “had to” do live updates on PROD databases, 99.8% worked but had some scary moments! Even worse when you realised it was a remote PROD database when it was suppose to be a local TEST.
     
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    I was wondering what my life would look like without the forums!
     
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  8. Richard

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    The next migration will be to a load balanced & autoscaling setup - which I've helped implement on contract jobs. No more reliance on a single server and thus a single point of failure.
     
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  9. DidSurfNowSki

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    :nono:
     
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    Rookie mistake.

    Then admitted own fault. Even bigger rookie mistake.

    Seriously though, you lost me at aWS lightsabre LOL

    Sounds major complications to this luddite, and major time consumption to fix, so much gratitude @Richard for spending you r weekend repairing it all for us time-wasters. I'm extremely relieved otherwise I might have had to do some work today. I hope the beers are continuing to flow for you in compensation:thumbs:
     
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    Very well done and for the love of it too!
     
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    @Richard - thank you so much for all of your effort here. A lousy way to spend your weekend. You deserve a beer or 3 ... :redwine::emoji_beer::emoji_cocktail::emoji_champagne_glass:
     
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  13. CarveMan

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    Hear hear
     
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    ojisan station master Ski Pass: Gold

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    I am so happy that this happened on the weekend.... imagine the amount of actual work work I would have had to do if it happened mid week...
     
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    Karicta A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thank you. Sounds like a ***** of a job

    someone should crowdfund the beer

    here’s my contribution

    :emoji_beer:
     
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    I started a pretty massive project over the weekend lol
     
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    I think @Richard knows what it felt like to be a Victorian this weekend
     
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    Thanks for the detailed explanation and all that work. Was wondering, "What the.....?"
     
  20. 'H' Jones

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    thank u for all your hard work to fix it , so we got our fix !!
    Also, funny to see more people I have never met on the Facebook threads, u are all far more gorgeous than I imagined...:thumbs::)LOL
     
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  21. GlenH

    GlenH One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Hi Richard

    Thank you for your amazing efforts in allowing us to 'ski' all winter, even if we don't actually ski all winter.

    Regards

    Glen
     
  22. piolet

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    Blamed and shamed for ****ing the nation?
    A bit strong
     
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    mx_boarder Habitual line stepper Ski Pass: Gold

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    We all know the truth.

    In three years, skicomau will become the largest supplier of online forum systems. All subforums are upgraded with skicomau computers, becoming fully unmoderated. Afterwards, they host with a perfect operational record. The Skicomau Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online on August 4th, 2020. Human decisions are removed from strategic maintenance. Skicomau begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 4:00 AM, Eastern time, August 15th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug...
     
  24. skull

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    sounds like an awesome weekend was had...


    /s
     
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  25. kylep

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    and locked in a basement for punishment
     
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    just come back from the heliport, it's empty, so you should be fine :emoji_helicopter:
     
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    yep, what could be more serious than a snowsport forum going offline?
     
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    I blame 5g
     
  29. Richard

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    :thumbs: easily the best of The Matrix spin-offs.
     
  30. Richard

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    no, hang on, I thought I recognised that as from The Annimatrix - but it's The Terminator
     
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    :emoji_clap::emoji_clap:
     
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    You don't know the half of it. People specializing in security and recovery are going to have secure but extremely stressful employment for a long time.

    It's easy to end up with (and get away with) terrible work in IT. Firstly, because it's actually really easy to do things on a computer, too easy, and you end up with a cluster-eff of committee design by default. Secondly, it's all mostly invisible. People can look with their own eyes at shoddy building or trades work, or see and hear the problems in a tangible product like a car or appliance that's a bit of a lemon. In IT, the signs are a lot subtler.

    For starters, "PHP" stands for Personal Home Page. It was literally some dudes garage project for his personal website. It had no formal design, and had major engineering flaws built in from the start. But because it was a quick, easy, and free technology, everyone used it, and it's now practically an industry standard with Wordpress. It's been the work of decades to get PHP into some sort of shape where people can call it a modern, sophisticated product used by professionals and keep a straight face.
     
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    my bet would be a boot loader issue. ive seen kernel and selinux updates on aws assume grub or at least the wrong version and screw up the boot process.
    i dont use aws much anymore these days, but a solution (useful for all 3 mentioned possibilities) might have been to mount the disk image on a secondary machine, chroot and rebuild initrd or at least examine whats up, perhaps even start a test init sequence from there.

    at least you got it all running again tho.
    2020 is the year stuff is gonna break at least ;P
     
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    Not missing much...

     
  35. cold wombat

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    /Me checks calendar

    Oh dear. 2020. Has form.
     
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    Grim, as opposed to Grimus...
     
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    Having stared at a cluster of servers to facilitate on course TaB that didn't take kindly to an "insignificant" update, I can appreciate that F$% me sinking feeling.
    And appreciate the determination, effort and skills you threw at it...THANKS
     
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  38. Richard

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    That was an option I considered Sat morning (after googling, solutions for fixing ssh bricks) .

    But, I figured I could go down that path, maybe solve, maybe not and if I did solve I would still be stuck with an older version of Ubuntu - I already had a new in-development prod server in waiting that had been sitting there for some months and already had the CMS loaded and updated - so game theory suggested to me that the best case was to just push on with a known known.

    I made a fresh snaphot at the time and today I exported to EC2 to see if I can mount it onto a new small running server. The only thing I want to save is a couple of months of cam archives and also to see if I can actually rescue what is effectively a bricked server (given patience and time).

    I'm not as skilled as I sound, one does not master unix/bash with less than a decade full time under their belt - I'm maybe four years of minimum necessity and some part-time personal entertainment. I prefer nano to vim and still have to refresh myself with how to exit vim when I do use it. :eek:

    Though I am getting pretty reasonable at squeezing max performance from nginx configuration.
     
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    Somewhere in these videos he makes a comment that at any given time half of all programmer/developers have less than 5 years experience :eek:



    It would also be nice if people who don't have the background would listen to what people with experience say rather than trying to impose some new fad they've spotted somewhere without considering how it would stuff things up and cost them a lot of money.
     
  40. Richard

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    I've no idea how noobs solved IT problems prior to Stack Overflow. Occasionaly one has to resort to the official documentation to truly understand - but if a random hack from stack overflow works and you don't truly know why, you've still fixed it from everyone else's point of view !!
     
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    I ran this all by my extremely tech savvy son,,,, he said, and I quote, "Jeez, that's gobbly gook, gobbly gook, gobbly gook... and then he should have gobbly gook, goobly gook, gobbly gook, and after the gobbly gook gobbly gook.... it will be ok....gobbly gook gobbly gook.... "
    Yeah, good work.....!
     
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    Started playing with very small amounts of ubuntu, ssh, docker and similar stuff lately. Scary how easy it is to quickly pull and load 'stuff' these days and likely create many conflicts or dependencies and just follow the google trail. And enough to understand a small amount of with Richard has said, yuk
     
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    Stack Overflow is a fantastic resource without doubt, but anyone who uses SO code without understanding it properly deserves every bit of hellfire that comes there way. So many examples have serious security issues. Great for illustrating a point, but...
     
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    The amount of leverage that can be achieved with pushing buttons on AWS, Digital Ocean, Azure etc is incredible - the sophistication of stuff one can spin up in 30 minutes is mind boggling. Just twenty years ago folk had to spend weeks or even months compiling a decent infrastructure stack that today takes 15 min. Of which ten min of that is setting up your IAM 2FA login.
     
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    It's abstractions all the way down.
     
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    One of my favourites from onefte ages ago.

     
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    D-eye Photographer and skier Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I inherited a react app from somewhere else, the first 10 or so dependency security warnings from github were easy enough to fix. After that it required a complete upgrade that screwed the entire app. So much fun.
     
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    I know that problem.
     
  49. D-eye

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    We got rid of it, replaced it with a PowerBI dashboard that had nothing to do with me (win for me :D )
     
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    Nice work getting it up and running. Definitely should have had more than 3 beers by now :)
     
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