The Japanese season 2010-2011 weather

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  1. smitty484

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    Get into it tomorrow bro.
     
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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Looking white and snowing nicely in Furano at the moment.
     
  3. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm not sure you know how to read..... [​IMG]

    I didn't say it was good, I said it wasn't poor.
     
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  4. damian

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    Temps dropping into the afternoon here as forecast, snowing like it is mid January. It's back.
     
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    Temps dropping here in niseko and more and more of the good white stuff falling. Expecting great things in the next 24-48 hours :). Just had an awesome run down north east face. Even better knowing it's only going to get better!
     
  6. Donza

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    indeed ..winds are whipping the snow in up the valley
    prob 20-30 in the lees of cortina
     
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    Coming down very nicely now on both the Niseko and Yuzawa Station cams [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  8. Donza

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    as windy as i've seen it in hakuba-pushing in nicely
    sat pic looks nice
    [​IMG]
     
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  9. damian

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    Donza - I didn't go out today (after a big effort yesterday packing a cache onto the hills, I needed a break). But from watching the hourly telemetry at 1300m it seems that it was windier at valley bottom than on the hill? Not so?
     
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    Its gusting to 60kmph I reckon in the valley right now- i'm looking into the eye of the wind
    it was strange Damien... Cortina (being in a valley) was sheltered..yet the top lift got shut by what I can only presume was wind around noon...
    so i went over to Norikura and it was scoured...lucky i had the pizza anchor...drifting like the sahara
    driving home from Otari it was windy as ...snow and rain blowing across the road..
     
  11. Go Native

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    Getting a bit breezy up this way as well.
     
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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Donza you getting in another day of boarding tomorrow?

    Sat pic does look nice!!
     
  13. damian

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    Donza - yes, I live along the way from Tsugaike back to 'booba, and it has been very gusty. Yet even the hourly reading at 1500hrs from way up at 2456m are not above 13m/s.
     
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    Donza were you at Cortina? Happo didnt have much wind at all today...maybe 5-10kph..... was quite fun up high but low vis and bulletproof underneath maybe10cm. Anyone know how things are looking for tomorrow? any tips on where to go? cheers
     
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    Snow machine back into gear.
     
  16. Donza

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    Yeah i was at Cortina
    and thats a tip IMO

    BTW Damien... i heard you find chairlifts a challenge- Risen maybe...?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Risen? I am totally lost. What rose?
     
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    [​IMG]

    The bread is Riesen..... or is it Rice 'n Unagi??
     
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    I'll take credit for a joke I didn't intend to make (nor fully understand). However I am still lost here...

    Donutz suggested that something had risen, and it was related to me and chairlifts?

    Then Sandy chimes in with some German.

    And I'm totally like, WTF dude? (note: I don't really speak like that)
     
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    mate it is friggen cold here in kansai kyoto. Had to call short our nightly ambulate through Gion, my hands and ears were burning.
     
  21. Sandy

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    There's a chair at Happo and a course that's called Riesen.
     
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    Oh. I didn't know that.

    I guess I had a problem with it.
     
  23. smitty484

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    now or know, hahaha, sorry I couldn't resist [​IMG]
     
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  24. damian

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    typo, smitty, typo.
     
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    It is friggen freezing here in Kyoto tonight

    Sandy, temp check???
     
  26. Sandy

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    3.6 degrees at 10pm.

    Might get down to 1 or 2 degrees.

    It the breeze that's making it feel cold.
     
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    cin Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    yeah wind was pretty strong, felt colder than when we were in the snow, alot like Amsterdam.
    Hope it snows here, that would be really cool!
     
  28. Donza

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    [​IMG] - sorry lost in translation Paedde speaks german after all..

    He was telling me off your disregard of safety bars... and near fall off the lift
     
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  29. damian

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    I never put the bar down, but I also seldom use lifts.

    I remember that day recently. I was learning over and pointing at some terrain and felt my balance on the chair go a little. This was amusing as I had just made light of another person's desire to always put the bar down. Truth be told though, I didn't almost fall off at all... and no one would have even known had I not made the joke about myself losing my balance just after scoffing at the safety bar.

    I'm not sure there was ever even a story here - I just think you wanted to name drop? [​IMG]
     
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    I can gear Gasex blasting at Cortina this morning (avalanche control work).
     
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    cortina will be unstable no?
    considering yesterday?
    name drop...pfft..
    anyways i'm out...just de-thawed the car and about to drive to matsumoto
    bye bye hakuba
     
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    Anywhere might be unstable: we just had 40cm or more snow up there with winds all on top of a previous melt freeze surface. Even if there isn't instability on that old surface then I'd be pretty sure that there is instability within the new snow anyway. Just the way it works after a storm with wind. Avalanche risk is probably Considerable today and you could certainly find them if you wanted to.

    Sorry you have to leave. You guys come and go so quickly. I'm still in bed myself - can't be bothered with an early start today (a short lived luxury as I have a lot of work to do and not enough time for myself).
     
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    How I love that Yuzawa Station cam - dumping!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Snowing heavily up this way as well. It's pretty damned cold too. Feels more like a typical Jan day than March.
     
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    A few skiers triggered avalanches big enough to injure, bury or kill a person* yesterday at around 1500m in Hakuba.

    * classified as a Size 2 avalanche

    I also notice that the wind on Happo is doing it's thing again. As I look outside my window now,it is bluebird over Tsugaike and Cortina whilst Happo is in a big roll of cloud. Wind reported for today at about 1300m in the Usagidaira area on Happo. Look at the wind strip that snow away.

    Date, Time ,Temp, Speed m/s, Snow depth cm
    03/03/2011 13:20:00 -9.7 14.3 173.5
    03/03/2011 12:20:00 -10.1 14.9 173.5
    03/03/2011 11:20:00 -10.8 11.8 173.1
    03/03/2011 10:20:00 -11.5 12.2 192.7

    Ahh, can't be bothered formatting that. Basically the winds hit 15m/s at 1300m. That is very strong.
     
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  36. Go Native

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    Kiroro looks like it's getting smashed today. Will be awesome when the winds abates!
     
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    Been snowing on and off all morning in Kyoto, nice dry flakes but very light and nothing settling. Not even wetting the ground, just dissappearing as it comes in contact. Very cold!
     
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    Chitose having issues this afternoon. Quite a number of flights cancelled or delayed.
     
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    Well, yes I would actually, because that's the only week I was there!!!!

    But, by God, I'm still blown away to have been there (in Japow) at all. Left behind a record hot spell in Perth (most number of days >30 or the most number of nights >20 or something) to Live.The.Dream. Bloody magnificent.

    And, I have now proven that you can eat too much カレーライス after all!
    Oh, and also, that raw horse tastes much the same as raw beef!
     
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    I missed that little gem from Sandy. If you are willing to compare this last Feb to maybe Australia sure it wasn't poor but compared to normal in Japan I'd be surprised if any resort got anything close to near average snowfall. Sure poor in Japan should really only be compared to other years in Japan but it was in no way a good Feb unless you really enjoy the sun!

    The below map shows how much of the western side of Japan received below average precipitation and significantly more sunshine than average. The east side was wetter than normal but that doesn't help the resorts much at all. Were there still some great conditions in Feb? Sure, even a bad month in Japan is not that terrible but let's not kid ourselves that it wasn't well below average.

    [​IMG]

    This is what a good Feb looks like

    [​IMG]
     
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    Not much more snow left in this one (in central Japan)
     
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    Some places have done really well, just looking at the photos from Nozawa, looks awesome.
     
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    been snowing heavily in Kyoto all morning, big fat flakes!
    Will post some photos I took on an early morning stroll when home on Sunday.
     
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    I would disagree with comments that it's been a really poor Feb, maybe in the resorts but there is a hell of a lot more to Japanese snow than that....

    I've been here since mid Feb, a couple of bluebird days but really, I've hardly got a photo without huge fat flakes in it & am almost sick of trying to keep snow out of all my gear. Just been buried in the best quality snow I've ever seen in Daisetzusan, covered half of Hokkaido in a blizzard & seen a city drowning in snow last night.

    As others have said, get out there & seek, Japan is going off for snow right now & has been since about late December. March so far, is looking like the machines still cranking at full speed, I'm hoping for a break in the snow for Hakkoda next week, climbing mountains in waist deep powder is getting tiring!! Getting snow delerium & forgotten what day & month it is....

    Love to stay but someones got to go & ride more!!
     
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    I think I said plenty of times I was talking about IN resort snow, which is what the huge majority of Austrlians visiting the country go to ride.

    Stats seem to back it up as well, even for Hokkaido. But obviously it doesn't even need to snow for a week or more and fresh snow can be found in the BC, but to most people that is not accessable. For those that don't think it was a poor February I would be interested to know what year did have a poor Feb then.
     
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    I agree with Smitty from a resort perspective.

    But you get it. Japan, with so much snow, is a backcountry/exploration destination way more than it is a full-facility resort destination. The Europeans also get it and are coming here in ever increasing numbers for that reason (predominantly Scandinavians, they will own the Hakuba mountain scene in a few seasons - and that is not based on numbers, but on their actions).

    For the record, Hokkaido has the best backcountry terrain for the most satisfying bc holiday for Australians. Many other places in Japan just do not have the combo of snow and terrain shape to make it work day-in-day-out. Though Hakuba shines in spring, but then so does the entire Japan Alps, of which Hakuba is just a pin-prick.

    Definition: backcountry does not mean riding near a resort using lifts to get back up. It means touring medium and long distances, like summer hiking, away from ski resorts using ski touring equipment or a splitboard. I respect the fact that most Australian's do not have the background for that kind of hobby, so this kind of post is of little benefit to them.
     
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    Awesome pow this morning. Windy on the high resort areas. Snowing lightly in the valley now. Next weeks forecast is looking very good.
     
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    Well it was definitely the lowest Feb snowfall I've experienced in 8 seasons. We had only around half the average snowfall. Conditions wouldn't be considered poor by Aussie standards and our SE Asian guests loved all the sunshine, they don't actually seem to like it snowing too heavily. Still by our pretty high standards up this way it would only very, very rarely get any worse than this year. There have been only 4 other years that recorded less snow in Feb up here since 1953. That has to be considered pretty damned poor! Niseko at least was poor by Niseko standards.

    Today was good though with great quality powder!! [​IMG]
     
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    Cortina was incredible today. Thigh deep in the trees off lift 4 I think it was,and some seriously good riders off both persuasions ripping today. Hands down best day I've had on 2 sticks [​IMG]
     
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    That's what I have been hearing all night at the bar. Also from the one stick persuasion.
     
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