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The Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by Sandy, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. Sandy

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Looking at the weather station for Nozawa, there been a light to variable wind fluctuating from a southerly to westerly. In the last hour, it kicked into a NW, a bit stronger, with precip and a drop in temperature. Should be northerly later this arvo, IMO.
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Regarding winds, I don't place a whole lot of weight in readings from the valley bottom, at least not in Hakuba.
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Dumping here took my car down to village this evening and brought 'The Beast' back.

    [​IMG]

    Will be some pow turns tomorrow !!!!!!
     
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  4. Donza

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    just seen that pic on FB
    epic
    30 mins worth?
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Reports coming in on Facebook indicate very rapid accumulation 4-5cm+ an hour in Nozawa
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    that photo above is 30 !!! mins worth
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Otari at 500 metres- at this rate a 60cm fall (24 hours is poss)
    time.....mm of precip per hour... snow depth cm
    14 0.0 7
    15 0.5 7
    16 2.0 10
    17 4.5 17
    18 2.0 20
    19 3.0 25
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Epic. How long is this likely to last though?
     
  9. Donza

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    29th of december ? [​IMG]
    looks like wave after wave
    but this storm...well looking at the sat pic that nnw is just getting going..so....could be 24-36 hours easy
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Awesome. Classic once it kicks in
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    whoop whoop .... I am excited
     
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  12. ausi ski bum

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Nice and I fly out Tuesday
     
  13. Nozawaman

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Not as excited as me ......I am skiing tomorrow [​IMG]
     
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  14. Sandy

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    The wind is rising and out of the due north in Yokohama!!!!!

    It's a good sign! [​IMG]
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    24cm in Nozawa Onsen in the last 5 hours!!

    18cm in the same period in Otari (near Cortina)

    Nothing in the Hakuba town weather station, but that's not uncommon!!

    14cm in Yuzawa.

    20cm near Myoko
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Sandy I get very excited when you talk about biblical dumps [​IMG]
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Sandy

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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    Since yesterday afternoon:

    52cm in Nozawa Onsen

    36cm in the same period in Otari (near Cortina)

    Nothing in the Hakuba town weather station, but that's not uncommon!!

    43cm in Yuzawa town. There will be more at Naeba, and even more at Kagura.

    57cm near Myoko
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    This only one week ago!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    This posted at the end of November. As usual, the season starting dump kicks in again between 15th and 25th December in central Japan. It remains to be seen how much we get out of this.


    I will be posting the "The Japanese season 2011-2012 weather" thread soon, and closing this one, as the preseason weather seems to be over!!!!
    BTW, the Japanese Maples have turned red in Tokyo, so it's now winter as far as I'm concerned!!!!
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    I'm very excited to watch the next ten days unfold
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    This is what I woke up to ....and it's still snowing [​IMG]
    Schneider here I come ......


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    Re: The coming Japanese season 2011-2012 weather

    In other words, nothing unusual in Nozawa!!!!! [​IMG]
     
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  25. Sandy

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    The coming Japanese season is now here!!!!

    I've moved some of this morning's posts to this new thread.

    The old one is locked and stickied so you can refer to it.
     
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    "Epic Knee to thigh deep powder of crazy superb quality was on offer for all riders this morning, " said SkiJapan.com's snow reporter Rod White

    "First lines from the top of the mountain today were why we love Niseko so much !
    Silky dust face shots through the trees of Hanazono 3, Triple hooded 6C and lea side slopes + Mirahashi...and over to Higashiyama and Annupuri...Completely outrageous !

    "The wind was the classic and perfect direction from the NW protecting most of Hirafu and Hanazono from chill factors of 25 + below zero maintaining ultimate quality throughout today.
    "The snow just keeps falling and is forecast to stay dropping till the wee hours of Monday where we may see a break in the cycle to do some village clearing before the next wave of snow keeps the action happening throughout next week.

    "20 lifts with 3 Gondolas keeping powder hounds happy today...If your wondering where the best snow on the planet is .....Book a ticket to Niseko.

    "Powder night riding tonight till 9pm will be nuts, as I'm sure it will be at first lifts in the morning."
     
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    Cheers sandy....
     
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    Love the difference in the two shots of FB's vehicle.
    I can see why you're excited about the 23rd-24th December Sandy.If the latest GFS comes off it looks like snow to the bottom of Kyushu! Hope it doesn't snow itself out before we get there in late January.
     
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  30. Sandy

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    My general experience is that once it kicks in, January is very snowy.
     
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    IMO "snowing itself out" or a snow quota is not something to be concerned about.
    It's reasonable to expect decent snow to march (with intermittent periods of sun and some showers)

    I'm in Honshu for three weeks in Feb and I'm not concerned about a lack of fresh!
     
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    damian has a theory that a certain amount of snow will fall at hakuba an that it can snow itself out.....going on the past couple of years and the poor Febs, its probably true......
     
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    Going on the last few seasons the primo time to hit Honshu snowfall wise seems to be late December early January but as I'm sure Sandy will say anything can happen.
     
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    That link doesn't seem to work. Tell me which page numbers you want the webcams and charts links copied from. Or quote and copy.
     
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    Not actually my theory, Smitty. It is just what I hear others say, long term farmers and those types. The amount of precip is pretty regular over winter. How (R or S) and when you get it is more variable. So if this turns out to be a mostly normal season, then we possibly still have about 900cm to fall (at 800m) in the next 2.5 months. So far we have had 53cm at 800m plus a very little bit in the form of rain.
     
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    Well I hope the spread of falls this season is a bit more spread over into feb and march compared to the last two years.
    Taking a punt on nozawa and myoko early-mid feb.
    Week in each to maximize chances of freshies.
     
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    [​IMG]


    Delicious!
     
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    Looking the goods all round.

    Top 10 Snow Forecasts

    Next 7-Days

    Niseko - Japan 110 cm
    Hakuba - Japan 38 cm
    Whistler - Canada 37 cm
    Lake Louise - Canada 14 cm
    Snowbird - USA 8 cm
    Park City - USA 8 cm
    Big White - Canada 6 cm
    Sun Peaks - Canada 5 cm
    Fernie - Canada 4 cm
    Silver Star - Canada 4 cm
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    That forecast for hakuba is way under what will fall IMO
     
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    I agree but with what happened with yesterdays falls was very disappointing, even though moisture chart was showing the goods...
     
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    ?????
     
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    Myoko said to have had 80cm since yesterday.
     
  43. Korbzy

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    For Hakuba... other areas did well
     
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  44. Donza

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    38cm at otari. Would be what. 60 plus easy at cortina.... Happo got 35 to 50 IMO
     
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    not sure where your getting your measurements at but im getting mine from http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/hakuba-now.php far less than what you mentioned
     
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    Korbzy, the most reliable* measurements in the valley (in English, available online) are, ahem, mine, if you will excuse the lack of modesty.
    http://steepdeepjapan.com/view/weather-data-table

    There is another Japanese source of data that is equally as reliable* however their data is not online as yet. I'll post the url when it is online.

    * by reliable I mean measured by a human in a methodological manner at regular intervals for the purpose of assessing avalanche risk - so it is totally objective, and also, not prone to the errors that electronic automatic measurement devises are.
     
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    Think snowjapan was on the neg train this morning...
     
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    Myoko cams looking epic
     
  50. Korbzy

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    Very nice, cheers
     
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