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The Japanese season 2013-2014 weather

Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by fletch, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. Yardsale

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    Gawd, maybe the BOM should make similar forecasts for us.
    * First viable BBQ weekend
    * Ride mud density for trail bike rides
    * Offical start of "beach season".
    Stuff like that.
     
  2. Born2ski

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    Up to 40cm in parts of Niigata in the last 24hrs.
     
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  3. Sandy

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    A little rain in central Japan on Tue, and more on Thu at lower elevations...... (below about 1000-1200m)


    At Shiga Kogen, snow Thu /Fri followed by sun & cold temps on Sat, Sun warmer and clear by the looks of things ......

    At Hakuba, Nozawa, Myoko, etc, rain down the bottom on Thu, but snow by Friday, sun & cold temps on Sat, Sun warmer



    This season in central Japan has been unusual, punctuated by a series of troughs moving across from southern China, hitting central Japan every 4-6 days right through late January until now. It's caused record February snow in Tokyo, and caused rain to fall on the resorts, mostly below about 1000-1200m in the period lat Jan - late Feb.

    As luck would have it (or some might say, good management!!!! ;)) , I've spent much more time than normal at Shiga Kogen this season (8 days + 2 + 3 this coming weekend), where the base elevation is high (about 1350m) This is high enough for me to have missed out on the rain every time it's been around. This is a factor that shouldn't be underestimated when selecting places to go!!!!!!
     
  4. Yardsale

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    Can you book the entire two weeks when we are in Hakuba next Feb.... so you can attract snow?
     
  5. Sandy

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    Heh, heh.... I'll try!!:D
     
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    Wah! Much as I love snow I hope we had less than this at my place otherwise getting to my front door will be a problem.
     
  7. Sandy

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    I haven't had a good look, but I think there was more snow around near Yuzawa in Niigata Prefecture, than there was at Myoko.
     
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    Akakura Kanko reported 10cm on Friday and 30cm on Saturday morning. Through Saturday and Sunday your place had sunny weather according to reports.
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well I can just hope it was snow up at Akakura Kanko and rain down at my place - I am a little lower than the resorts.
     
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    Puking in Hirafu right now....

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    Any thoughts as to why this has occurred this year Sandy; and how common is it - ie every how many years does Central Japan cop these troughs?
     
  12. Sandy

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    To tell you the truth, I haven't seen it quite like this before. Normally, if we get low pressure troughs, they track though Korea or slightly north of there. All of these have tracked over southern China & Taiwan, one after the other. I reckon there have been 10-12 of these, including today's & the one coming through on Thu/Fri.
    If they DO track through there, they normally develop into full blown storms before reaching Toyko. In these cases, they all seem to go full blown after reaching Tokyo, which explains the snow in Tokyo...... if they are full blown, it doesn't really snow much in Tokyo.
     
  13. Sandy

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    Rain today:
    Hakuba 44mm
    Otari 43mm
    Nozawa Onsen 13mm
    Myoko (Sekiyama) 21mm
    Yuzawa 21mm

    Looks like the freeze level is at about 1500m right now, and dropping
     
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    Snowed in Hirafu til midday, then rain til 6pm at least as high as the gondola top station. Mountain turned to mush. Unknown up high as most upper mountain closed.

    Snotting down big flakes in lower village now at 8pm. Shitty southerly flow looks likes it's gone for next few days, phew.
     
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    Raining in Yokohama & Tokyo right now. Temperature has dropped a degree or two int he last couple of hours.

    Meanwhile, in the resort base areas, looks to be between +1.5 to +4 degrees in Nagano & Niigata. Freeze level appear to be around 1000m at this time of the morning.
    It's hard to say if it's raining or not, but the Hakuba Shinshu webcam looks like it has something on the lens which wouldn't be snow. If it's raining, it's not heavy yet.

    If the freeze level stays at 1000m, then Shiga Kogen will not get any rain. (which is where, coincidentally, I will be heading to tonight ;), as it's a long weekend)

    Later today, freeze levels should drop, and all the resorts in central Japan should get a reasonable dump of snow. Snow-forecast is predicting around 20-25cm at Shiga Kogen on a NW wind Thu/Fri, but if it remains true to form, it might be twice as much (if we're lucky!!!! ;))



    I guess the last few stragglers from Australia will have gone back home soon, so perhaps this is the last good fall for the snow season
     
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    Light rain in Hakuba at the moment, mild around 3 degrees in town, there's still a few of us stragglers around. Hopefully the Snow- forecast stays on track, the heavy rain on Tuesday took it's toll
     
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    Looks like the freeze level is around 1400-1500m now.
    Appears to be light rain in Hakuba, Nozawa. Myoko doesn't show any rain down at the Sekiyama weather station yet. No rain registered at Yuzawa, and it's dropped 4 degrees from 9-10am (now 3.1)
    But no general trend for dropping temperatures yet.
     
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    snowing most of the day on the higher runs. snowing to the bottom of the valley since about 7:30pm. Tomorrow should will be good.
     
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    Myoko was raining at my place - 700 metres earlier. Then became foggy and still some very light rain.
     
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    Cold and snowing at Shiga Kogen.

    Probably -5 right now
     
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    Was woken this morning by snow sliding off the roof. Has been snowing all day so far and does not look like stopping.It is a bit wet at my place but should be a little drier up the mountain. Some people are very lucky.
     
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    30cms at kagura today hakkaisan are saying 40-50 not bad for april!
     
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    It's been an absolute blizzard at Shiga Kogen this afternoon
     
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    April..?
     
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    46 cm since 4am in the village at N.O.
     
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    make that 58 cm in 24hrs ... in the village!!!
    (jma hrly table of observations)

    Japan (Honshu) something else for snowfall.
    Have an awesome weekend all those fortunate enough to be there
     
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    Looks like 50cm plus on the ground here at Shiga Kogen........ And it's sunny this morning!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Myoko looks like it's copped some big snow as we'll!!!!
     
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    Ft saying its super dangerous in the BC
     
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    Yep. We went down to Joetsu for dinner last night. Puking all the way down past Arai. And today is beautiful sunshine. Perfect!
     
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    I am guessing the sun would be super strong this late into march, wont be doing the snow any favors especially south facing
     
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    A bit warm today - 8 degrees at 1pm.
     
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    minus 8 or plus?
     
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    Sorry +8 realised in hindsight my dash would look like a minus.

    My mogul skier is quite happy about it as it will be just like skiing in Aus when he competes at Hakuba in a few days.
     
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    Surely the grass isn't showing through just yet?
     
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    LOL Not up on the slopes - nearly lost my stocks yesterday when pushing and they disappeared. But when you drive around the ground is beginning to show through in places. I was referring more to the quality of the snow rather than the quantity.
     
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    Looking like we may get one more storm out of the season next weekend. Here's hoping.
     
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    Yeah, looks like a burst on Fri/Sat, but on a rain affected base(frozen base by late Friday)
    I'd say that there could be 40-60cm on top of groomed slopes, so it could be nice!!!!!! :D
     
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    a cheeky weekend trip on the cards there Sandy?
     
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    Was about to put my gear away........ but maybe......
     
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    Yesterday was warm and today is raining. Watching the snow around my place disappear rapidly. Which is good for getting building work done but bad for any more skiing. It was 8 degrees when we drove back from Hakuba on Friday afternoon.

    We are going to Inawashiro next weekend and then Nanto the following weekend. Just a few cold days in the next 2 weeks would be great.
     
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    Where is open that would be worth a go with fresh snow this time of year? Fukushima resorts are all closed as of today pretty much. Just wondering as next year I might be there for sakura and wouldnt mind a trip to the snow if it does snow.
     
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    Just a guess but I bet Sandy says Shiga. ;)
     
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    Hakuba47 is usually top to bottom until May. Happo is still skiing down to the Riesen quad and the gondie. Tsugaike was looking good top to bottom on Saturday. The BC at Happo and Tsugaike is really good at this time of year. Shiga is still going but I could see you being a bit bored with it if it hasn't snowed. I think Noz stays open until golden week - 1st week of May. A lot of the smaller resorts close up even with plenty of snow. Just no people around to ski them so it is not worthwhile staying open.
     
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    Just as TJ would say Hakuba :cheers:
     
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    After some warm weather in the last few weeks, the sakura have opened in Tokyo/Yokohama, and have hit their peak right now. We had a wind storm and rain yesterday, but the blossoms held firm. I'd give it about another week and a bit before they start dropping.
     
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    The cold air looks like coming through later on Friday and coming through quickly, so I reckon any of the places with a bit of elevation & open would be ok...... So Hakuba, Shiga Kogen, Kagura would my first choices.
     
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    Um we were at 47 on Wed, Thurs and Friday. Whilst here was lots of snow the conditions were very soft. I did not ski because imo it was not worth bothering. Wrt conditions the moguls course, it was just like Australia. At the end of Friday the park near the gondola looked pretty destroyed. It was a big moguls event with all the top skiers because it was the National championships and Aiko Uemura's last competition after competing in 5 or so Olympics. The top skiers did not ski on Friday partly because of the conditions

    We are going to Inawashiro this weekend. Not really a resort I would bother with except we have a moguls event on there. I will be skiing as I get a lift ticket as part of my accommodation.

    The following weekend we go to Nanto and I think it is this resort: http://www.snowjapan.com/japan-ski-resorts/toyama/nanto/taira They run a moguls camp in May but not sure what that means wrt conditions and amount of snow.This is relatively near where that avalanche in the Tateyama range happened earlier this season.

    I will report back on conditions at both resorts.

    May ski here again after that but a boy has schoolwork to do so we doing that instead of skiing atm.