Japan The Japanese snow season 2019-2020 Weather

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  1. Sandy

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    How long are you there?
    Arriving today
     
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    Wet snow on the top of Tsugaike overnight. About 5cms at the very top. There was no freeze over so conditions were actually pretty good through the trees. Expectations were low so I was very happy with the session. Groomers were good too. Slow going on the sides though.
    Such a difficult season to forecast.
     
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    I take those forecasts as a reference of what the weather could be at Mt Hakkoda.
     
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    Snow-forecast actually gives a reasonable idea of freezing level and wind speed (whether the ropeway will be running) for Hakkoda. 12-20cm looks like an underestimation IMO, and barring a bit of warmth on Sunday evening, it should all be snow. Definitely rain down low today though, and maybe a wintery mix up top.
     
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    Haha, no idea. Tenki.jp has Japanese ski resort & mountain weather forecasts(and snowdepth, etc too), so I use. If you install the app, you can get detailed data / forecast. But not sure if it is what you are looking for or not.
     
  8. David-eTO

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    I have a Japanese colleague. I could ask her to help me translating it....during working hours ;)
     
  9. Sandy

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    Wait, so you're not in Japan at the moment?
     
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    Please stay on topic :out: .

    I observe sun is out for now at Hakuba, and the temp hovering at 8c at Tsugaike.
     
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    Seem to work perfectly with Google translate add on.
     
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    Thursday means JMA's seasonal weather forecast is released. Long term forecast is not accurate, but doesn't look good:eek:
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    The like was for the info, not the message. Think I might only take the 95mm skis and leave the 128mm skis at home this trip.
     
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    I’m a on a tad over 100 and they’ve been ok on firm if that helps?

    Make sure edges are sharp though. Jic. There’s not miles of soft on hand but soggy groomers might need a bigger ski?
     
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    Wow, those are some pretty brutal viewing.
     
  16. David-eTO

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    Not yet. leaving early March. Just getting info about what to expect.
     
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    thanks
     
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    Agree. In fact Accuweather has revised its forecasts down. Now they are expecting 3-6 cm to fall from Sunday to Tuesday, instead of the 12-20 predicted yesterday.
     

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    I'll be taking my GS race skis for work, ice isnt' an issue.
     
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    Bottom of kokusai at Happo. The rain has turned to ice this morning. Someone said there was a dusting up top.
     

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    Ouch. I can feel the bruises just looking at that!
     
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    Who's on the ground? how fairs the snow base after the yucky r**n?
     
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    In Sapporo flying out tonight after 9 days skiing in central Hokkaido. It’s snowing on and off in Sapporo city so I would imagine nearby ski hills are getting some loving today.
     
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    Skied on the day after the Tuesday rain. (at Shiga Kogen)
    Was sticky because of the temperatures and the rain affected snow.
    Both yesterday and today were nice, actually!! Spring conditions, some buttery groomers from about 9am.
    The stories of rain tomorrow and maybe lack of Chinese tourists kept things quiet.

    To summarise, the weather Fri/Sat didn't stop fun being had.
     
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    Went to Kagura yesterday, conditions weren’t too bad , with good cover on the groomers
     
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    I didn't realise you were there Wednesday. We could have enjoyed to gluey conditions together. Oh well. Another time!
    And might I say, I noticed a significant increase in Chinese tourists since the last time I was at Shiga (2016).
     
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    And I was also there thursday, which was why I was messaging you half the time!!! ;)
     
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    I know it's not weather related but why are the Chinese going to Shiga Kogen?
     
  29. Sandy

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    Chinese are everywhere.

    In coming rain. The actual chart and the GFS forecast chart for 12z differ slightly so we'll have to see what the timing is on the rain.
     
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    Ok, it's raining in Fukui, Kyoto and Nagoya, which is still far to the west.
    Radar shows light rain clouds to the west of Hakuba (the 2900m range to the west) but there's no rain recorded in Hakuba or in Toyama so far.
    I'd say that the rain is maybe at least 3-4 hours away, or a bit longer. It should rain at Hakuba first, then move east (Myoko next, then Nozawa, then Shiga Kogen then Yuzawa.)
    My initial estimate:
    Recordable rain Hakuba, maybe 11am.
     
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    Local weather forecasters say snowfall on 17th and 18th can be 100cm in some places in Hokkaido, and it can snow in "strange" places such as Kyushu, Shikoku, etc, where it doesn't usually snow much(and early heavy snow warnings have been issued). They didn't mention Central Honshu, Tohoku, etc, though.
     
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    Light rain falling in nozawa - just as I wait for bus to leave
     
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    That would give it a decent base top up before we fly into Sapporo on the 19th!
     
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    No drizzle at Shiga Kogen today, but light rain fell as small/medium sized drops, occasionally a fraction heavier. It probably rained 60%of the time.
    However, no rain heavy enough to get wet.
    @Heinz said that it was the strangest rainy day he'd ever seen.
    I notice 14mm rain at Hakuba
     
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    I think it was probably a stretch to call it rain. It started probably a dozen times as a few drops sometimes more and persisted a bit and each time we thought ok it will start to rain properly soon but it just never did. So bugger it, we just had to keep skiing.
     
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    It's likely to snow a lot in a bit strange places of Hokkaido(the Purple = more than 30cm in 24 hours). Hakkoda looks very good (The Purple and the forecaster says it can be 50cm). It's snowfall forecast between this noon and tomorrow noon.
     
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    Slight drizzle in Myoko all day but nowhere near as much as snow Japan has called for. Nice spring skiing snow, but hopefully that freezing level comes down tonight and we get some snow tomorrow afternoon/ evening.
     
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    Medium to heavy rain in Happo all day from
    About 10 am making us Aussie v homesick fir Buller & BBaw! ❄️⛷

    In Wadano village most of the snow gas gone bar the big snowploughed piles.
    V sad! Very over this.

    And hoping tomorrow leads to optimism.
     
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    Been snowing constantly for the past 7 hours in Niseko; albeit, light. Roughly 10cm on top of the car
     
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    Been raining in Tokyo this eve. Feels cool without being cold.
     
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    raining in Tsugaike since noon and very heavily for last 5 hours
     
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    Just as the cold starts to return next weekend is looking to warm right up. Anything positive on the horizon Sandy?
     
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    You might make sense of all the contradictory forecasts that appears on the same website: it looks like it's raining but there is also a heavy snow advisory on, for the same location. Very confusing indeed :(
     

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    Snowing since last night at Tomamu and also in Furano. Not sure of accumulation yet but quite a bit of wind in it as well.
     
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    The one you showed is a weather forecast of Aomori city's downtown(almost 0m asl). Sukayu, where there is Hakkoda is 800 - 900m asl. Even when it's raining hard in the downtown of Aomori city, it can be snowing very heavily in Hakkoda. Hakkoda belongs to Aomori city but the weather can differ a lot because of its altitude.
     
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    thanks for the clarification. one last question though, what does "asl" stand for?

    thanks again
     
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    Aomori city's downtown is about 6.5 - 7.5 degree warmer than Hakkoda's bottom ropeway station in February on average. There are two reasons. One = Altitude. Two = The distance from the ocean. We own a "hobby" farm along the Pacific Ocean. The same latitude + same altitude, but it's 2 or 3 degree warmer in winter and 2 or 3 degree cooler in summer compared to inland cities because the temperature of seawater is relatively consistent all year around (compared to air temperature). Well, I'm just a weather novice. So you should not rely on me. I just listen to and write what local weather forecasters say:p.

    By the way, Aomori city is the snowiest city of "major cities" in the world.
    https://www.hellotravel.com/stories/10-snowiest-places-on-earth
     
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    and I truly appreciate your posts. Thanks
     
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    It's snowing in Nozawa :)
     
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