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The Park Thread

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by POW_hungry, Oct 19, 2017.

  1. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cause if you go 20ft.
    You're a five hit pipe.. Max
     
  2. Red_switch

    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Gold courtesy of the family that ran snow park into the ground.
     
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    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Amplitude needs to score better then
     
  4. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Depends
     
  5. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I love the shit out of the Blackcomb Park, perhaps that's the drive to share this? But Horgmo is a lord too.
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Big Bear. Rail game is strongz as always, ever.
     
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  7. Red_switch

    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Sheeezus, MFM called, from 2005. Although if you lived in suburban LA, I guess I can understand.
     
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  8. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah Drayden has that Mark Frank Montoya gangsta air game between rail game vibe going on.
    Very forced, but heck it's tech AF.
     
  9. Red_switch

    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Yeah, totally. But I'd probably rather watch these guys skate than snowboard eh.
     
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  10. The Plowking

    The Plowking Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've never understood impractical attire.
     
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    The Plowking Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    The whole pants down thing has a bit of this about it
     
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    Red_switch Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Especially when they are wearing shorts underneath.
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mammoth still being Mammoth (in June)...
    (Torstein is a freakin' lord)
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cattleman's Rail Jam on now:
     
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  16. sbm_

    sbm_ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    So I was at the Merritts terrain park last week.

    Now I've been riding bikes in summer for a few years now and even started doing some building and digging volunteer work, I've learnt a bit about dirt jumps and what goes in to building them. Now going back to snow parks with new eyes, it's interesting to compare it. In particular how everything is built as a step-down double with a separate takeoff and landing and the landing is always lower than the takeoff (this seems to be a consequence of building jumps with grooming machines, rather than by hand or with an excavator with a digging arm).

    There was a freestyle clinic there with a Euro coach, and the kids were ripping, switch 5's etc. One of the park maintenance staff was there too. I took the chance to ask them about this - how come snow parks never have any step-ups or tabletops for beginners? The freestyle coach looks at me - and old mate stepped over, and straight up gave me a hug! "I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH for saying that in front of the mountain staff! I've been trying to get them to build features like that for the kids all season!" He turned and said "I swear I didn't put him up to this haha!"

    In conclusion, the bike riders are building waaaay more creative and varied jumps than ya'll and build better beginner lines. Enjoy this vid of one of my locals where I have helped with digging.
     
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  17. parkmonkey

    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I would consider the bigger one at the back a table top, the close one almost a step down but still a table top
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    A lot of dirt bike jumps doubles table tops etc are built on the flat and bikes can generate speed being peddled (obviously once in a rhythm you can carry speed through), ski's/boards require a slope to generate speed, building step ups requires a lot more snow or the right natural terrain, it also requires a longer run in and greater speed to clear.

    This kinda stuff was going on a bit 15yrs ago
     
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  18. sbm_

    sbm_ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    You have some funny shaped tables in your house!

    Your second photo is very cool, and the stuff I'd like to see more of in parks. It's obviously a giant feature I wouldn't hit. But I just feel most of the creativity goes into funkier rails, while the jumps are mostly standard.

    I think it's interesting the difference where as a skier/boarder you're a "customer" and expect the park to be built and maintained for you (and of course you pay for it through the nose with lift tickets). Dirt jumps are very much DIY and you're expected/required to pick up a shovel and maintain them before you start, hell you have guys that show up and just dig as a hobby and barely even ride.
     
  19. parkmonkey

    parkmonkey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Running the Kats is a huge cost, pushing farming snow all takes time before the features are even shaped. The time in Kats is limited by cost and generally to the time lifts are shut. The space for the park is limited to the area the resort allows and can also come down to the amount of snow that falls. Out here there might only be one guy working in a kat overnight build or maintaining the park
    A bit of food for thought "It can cost $150,000 to $400,000US to build and maintain a halfpipe for a season"
     
  20. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    There are no pipes worth spending money on in Australia
    Yet they still build one at Perisher
     
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  21. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That Merritts park is pretty shit though. There ain't enough gradient (or snow) to build a proper step up .
    Plenty of step up, step downs and tables at Perisher.
     
  22. nick12

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    Snow isn't a problem now, they have snowmaking top to bottom on easy rider. The gradient does suck, it would be better if the t-bar went up another 30 meters and unloaded where playground comes out. Then you'd have a pretty good set up for a beginner/ intermediate park.
     
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  23. Jarryboy

    Jarryboy Early Days

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    I just spent the weekend riding Falls Creek park, and following the other major resort parks on Instagram I can comfortably say Buller is miles behind this year. Been up to Buller a few weekends this season only to see 4 rails/ boxes into a small jump. Compared to say Hotham and Falls with there 20 something features it’s pretty sad to see Victoria’s wealthiest resort care so little. And if anyone dares to claim Buller haven’t had the snow, you only have to look at their park on Bourke st at the beginning of the season which had more features with less snow. Or go one step further and check out Bear mountain, California to see a 40 rail line built on 30cm of man made, every year.
    It’s Always sad to see 20 rails parked up collecting dust til halfway through winter.
     
  24. sbm_

    sbm_ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I wonder if there's insurance standards about how wide jumps have to be built. Certainly if they made them half the width they'd have heaps of snow. I think what they're really saying is "we don't have enough snow to build them at night sitting in the groomer".
     
  25. FourSquare04

    FourSquare04 A Local

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    It's a hell of a lot better than what it used to be that's for sure. Just the quality of the park features and how they are built seems to be so much better these days. The high noon park was alright back in the day although it used to get really icy in that shady last hook section.

    I remember way back in late 90's when Perisher Leichardt used to have wooden log slide rails - classic :D
     
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    xuěboarder One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I feel the same way but would hesitate a guess that's it more to do with runs open due to lack of snow.
    Until say 2 weeks ish ago, the only intermediate runs offered were LBS, shakey and skyline. Buller likely weighs up that they need the space for normal riders rather than for park. This would also explain why skyline has been built on the left of the fence this season so far.
    Also, koflers was built pretty much the same week as family opened which gives weight to that idea too
    (Skyline also got a rebuild 2 nights ago)
     
  27. Jarryboy

    Jarryboy Early Days

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    Sad but true, skylines never been the ideal spot for a terrain park either, runs too short and too flat at the top. Soon as the temps get above 4 the jumps are too slow and cooked. I guess the next step will be to just cancel parks altogether, better keep my mouth shut.
     
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    FourSquare04 A Local

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    Summit was the best for a park site at Buller especially for jumps, had some good days there in the past, not sure why they stopped doing it although the visibility made it hard to use when the light became flat / cloudy days

    In other news, check out the Perisher V8 cam and look what they are building, going to be a monster 4 pack jump line once they have finished
     
  29. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not many pros here yet.
    Soon I guess?
     
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    FourSquare04 A Local

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    Yeah can only be a matter of time, likely preparing for the influx with this build