The skis that changed my life

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  1. Annabuzzy

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    Ok maybe that's an overstatement. No skis have changed my life. But there are some skis that in skiing them I had a "aha" moment. Skis that when I first skied them I thought "these are THE skis, my life is complete". Skis that weren't just slightly better than what went before, but were a leap from prior possessions.

    So sure my list isn't about the best. What they are about is the skis that were a vast improvement on what went before. Skis that I still remember the feelings of excitement when I fist skied them. My list, in order of most profound "woohoo" to least profound "woohoo" are;

    1. K2 Recon. I owned these suckers from 2005-2010 which is a century in Annabuzzy years. At the time, I felt these skis could do it all. I loved them. They were super heavy but I ignored that. Love.

    2. Salomon QLabs. Who knew I loved stiff wide skis this much? I sure didn't. I do think these skis have a special sauce of user friendliness coupled with burliness but who knows. I just love skiing them.

    3. K2 Fours. At the time I just thought these were such a vast improvement on the preceding straight skis, and they were. Stable and damp and carvy. Sadly my infatuation was turned all too quickly by the emerging "mid fat" (68-70mm waist skis mind you) class of skis. Mild love.

    4. Blizzard Brahma. Undoubtedly the best 88mm ish all mountain ski I have skied. Not love in a Recon way mind you because they just aren't a leap over what went before. They're an iteration. Beautiful though. Strong affection to love.

    5. Everything else.
     
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  2. Legs Akimbo

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    Rossi 4S
     
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  3. piolet

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    My old k2 public enemy's. Laugh I know but they were the first modern ski for me, a bit fatter, kind flex and twinned. Very fun ski for the casual skier and really changed off piste for me.
     
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  4. coolair

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    Saloman equipe SC, they ski them self's, nice recreational ski.
     
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    K2 Fours . After coming off V27 GS 200s and all that compression business . Two turns in and the rebound flipped me onto my back . Ah ha quieten down.
     
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    And the shape!

    They were such a good ski. Shaped tip and relatively straight tail - what's not to like about that.
     
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    Stockli stormriders. Circa 2006/7
     
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    4frnt Devastators.
     
  9. TOFF

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    I love my Brahmas.
    I loved my Salomon Xwings before that.
     
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  11. Slush

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    Nidecker snowboard in the mid 90's
    Coming off straight skis to a board that carved was a revelation.

    Slush
     
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    I need these in my life
     
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    Karhu Guides
    Voile Vector BC’s
     
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    Line Prophet 88. My first skis after half a lifetime of snowboarding. Small sample size, but they are a sweet ride and carve well.
     
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    Yeah the Prophet 90 was a real 'it' ski for me, it redefined my choice of Australian all-mountain ski and every pair I've had since has been a variation on the same theme.
     
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    K2 Apaches - after a decade on long narrow skis these got me carving for the first time. You’ve got to start somewhere....

    Madshus Annums patterned base BC skis - increased my daily touring distance by another 20km.

    Blizzard Mountain Free Cross BC skis - first lightweight touring skis - after narrow heavy BC skis these were a revelation.

    DPS Wailer 112’s - first set of spoons - a revelation in awesome. Still growing into them.
     
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    Armada AR5s first centre mounted twin tip I ever skied.

    2011 K2 obsethed was the first fat ski that I felt like everything clicked

    2011 Line Ep Pro - Super fat noodle with a very short turn radius that if it was just a little bit stiffer would have been my perfect ski...
     
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    The skis that changed my life?
    Whatever the Hiries I had from Malony's at Mt Buller in '95, the first time I'd ever seen snow.
    The skis had more idea of what to do than I did. I was crap. I've improved in quantity...., not so much in quality.
    However, Volkl seem to have become my "go to". Currently on my second set of RTM 81's. Enjoyed RTM 86's in Sun Peaks recently and eager to have a go on my new extra fat Volkls in the upcoming season, when deep, fresh wet snow conditions present (aka "powder"). :)
     
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  19. emkae

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    Moving to my first pair of “parabolic” skis in the late 90s - Atomic Beta Carv 9.18

    Made turning a whole lot easier...
     
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  20. Telemark Phat

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    Whatever it was I skied on when I first hired some Telemark equipment from Paddies in about 92.

    Other important skis
    • The original Gotama (fat and long side cut, speed and drifting off piste)
    • My first modern FIS GS race ski (skinny, stiff and long side cut, they're more versatile than you think they are)
    • Armada ARG (almost reverse, reverse for close to the ultimate off piste experience)
    • Movement Big Fish (how capable modern light skis touring skis are)
     
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    Karhu Kodiak Kinetic........1/2 metal edge cross country touring ski...soft as....ski anything slowing
     
  22. Izzy

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    Fischer RC4 - purchased 2006 and still on them. Time for an upgrade?
     
  23. Chaeron

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    Go on - it’s inestimably worth it.

    More forgiving skis plus enhanced performance- so new skis mean more output for less input. We can argue the same for enhanced fitness/ strength or improved technique (lessons)


    OK - Let’s try and justify purchasing a new pair of skis (not that we need to!) We all need to be able to rationalise this, don’t we?

    Average out the cost of new skis at $600 (exclude new bindings for the sake of argument) over the cumulative cost of getting to the snow, accomodation, resort entry and lift passes for 4 seasons (assume a VERY conservative $1,500 per season (minimum baseline of 4 local AU days per season) for a total of $6,000 and consider that you’ll get a qualitative return on investment way more than 10%....

    So let’s continue this silly game -

    I know we can’t quantify qualitative stuff like a more awesome ski experience, but why not give it a try?

    If you’re for example spending say an extra hour per day out on the slopes than you would otherwise because the skiing is easier and more fun on newer skis then that’s a gain of 7/6 = 16% for a 10% increase in price (assuming only 4 days on the snow). So you’re ahead at least 6% on an annual investment of $1,500. Better than average market returns.

    Now, if you’re skiing more than 4 days a season your annual skiing costs will definitely exceed $1,500 so the rate of return on a investing in new set of skis will be even higher - you get way more for only a little bit more paid up front. So then you should be incrementally be willing to increase your spend towards $1K for new planks.

    So it’s morally plain wrong NOT to upgrade your skis.

    Tell @CarveMan, @teckel and @DPS Driver that you’re in the market for a new pair of skis, no time like the present!
     
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  24. Sandy

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    K2 VO Slalom (1984)
    (on the right)

    Phil and Steve Mahre won gold and silver in slalom, in the Sarajevo Winter Olympics in 1984 on these skis.

     
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  25. MickM

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    This^^ 6 years ago my Blizzard carvers were amazing and redefined my skiing. I was firmly in the 70ish carver camp and couldn't fathom anything wider. Fast forward to last year got some Atomic Vantage 90 CTI and WOW, the most versatile ski I have ever owned. Maybe the perfect width for Oz. I now have my blueprint: Metal, rocker-camber-rocker, sidewall, 16-18m R
     
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    mate of mine will try a ski , impulse purchase "I can't live with out them "
     
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  27. MisterMxyzptlk

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    Another vote for the K2 Apaches
     
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    K2 Four. That was my second season in Jindy, and I just loved them. I even got drunk and wrote nice things on them in texta.
     
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    Atomic ARC RS 204cm. The famous Red Sleds. Mid Eighties when carving is what you did to a leg of lamb. They didn't start to work until you were skiing at least 30 kph.
     
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    I remember when I bought my Apaches after doing a demo of a few skis. Some pimply faced wannabe ski shop employee in this place (who had never seen the skis, let alone ridden them) dissed me for buying them.
     
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    I still have mine too, purchased 2008. They usually get an outing at sometime each year, great for hardpack Aussie groomers. Back in the day I even took them to Japan and USA :eek: Don't think my knees would cope with that sort of punishment anymore.
     
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    Which K2 Apaches? Recon? Crossfire? Outlaw? Ranger? Raider? Stryker? Coomba? ;)
     
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    Which RC4? I had an old pair of RC4 RC back in 1996.
     
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    There are 13 different RC4s this season.
     
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    Ah, so it's a moral issue? Sweet, I will try that line on the missus for an upgrade....
    ;)

    So what should my next 'life changing' ski be ski brains trust? I am 100 kgs, 188 cm, and I would say a high end intermediate who likes to ski fast on groomers laying big carve turns. The RC4's love this, but obviously in the arvo crud or on fresh snow they (I?) struggle big time. I demoed a pair of K2 AMP Rictors once and quite liked them. I need something that gets from edge to edge quick, not too stiff and unforgiving (back seat is my bad habit), but wide enough underfoot to get through the Thredbo slush puppy arvos.
     
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    Ummm, now you are testing me. I am not sure to be honest??? Is there a Race SC??
     
  37. chicski

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    That's what mine are, 2007 model I think.
     
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    C4 were better, much better...
     
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    My first pair of skis were a pair of Atomic SX-10 175cm. I was 120kg at the time (had the weight to control the ski to a certain degree) and i'm 180cm tall. Learning on such a stiff unforgiving ski was a challenge but I think has made me a better skier. I used to hate going off piste, absolutely hated it. The SX10's would just grab edge after edge and dig into the soft snow.
    I lost a heap of weight (now 94kg) and hated skiing the SX10's even more. I finally went out and bought a pair of ex demo Rossi S86 178cm. Completely changed my skiing life. I miss the hard sharp edges of the SX10's when its icy but that's it. I have not looked back.
     
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  40. piolet

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    I do have a serious thing goin for my old black 194 gotamas. Full rocker, stiff and pretty straight. So stable, so fun for hauling ass.
     
  41. Sandy

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    LOL
    Except you have no idea which model I'm talking about, or even what they looked like.... Or even the model you're talking about ... ;)
     
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    The 2012 Salomon Lords were the last ones they made and I love them and other people I've seen on them say the same. Then came the Quest range whereby Salomon tried to improve on them but, some say, got it wrong so the 2012 Lords will see me out.
     
  43. MisterMxyzptlk

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    Mine were Recons 2005?2006?
    Changed my skiing behaviour simply because it was really the first time I stopped thinking about snow conditions.
    They were just so available in any type of snow
    Deep powder icy crud corduroy ankle deep- all became secondary to the fall-line
    They were my one ski quiver
     
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    I’ve skied with Phil & Steve a couple of times and told them the story of my dad not being able to handle his VO Slaloms
     
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    Game changer for me because if I didn't improve, I fell on my arse!!! ;)
    I've thrown out many skis, but not the VO Slaloms.... :D
     
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    Yeah that ski is a ripper, super keen to see how the new version skis
     
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    K2 710 FO slalom, first ever purchase as I headed to the mountains.

    Volkl P9 slalom, skis I learnt to get my wedeln on

    Kastle RX Super G, skis I learnt to go faster on, smoothest eye watering ski ever.
     
  48. MisterMxyzptlk

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    The Atomic Vantage 90CTI is my current ski
    I love
    Presumably they sold a truckload of them
     
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    @CarveMan
    Serious question
    Does the snowboard you're on (other than length and weight)make as big a difference as skis seem to?
     
  50. CarveMan

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    No idea. I’ve boarded twice and can link turns on an easy blue.
     
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