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Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by skifree, Jan 8, 2020.
Drizzly day, but good to be out and about on the last day of September!
For what it's worth,
I found out today summer pass is $699.
Not surprised. Still disappointed though. But summer season is longer than winter. Im normally down once or twice a month for about 20 days of gravity riding. If I was to get the pass KT will get over $3k out of me in 2020 for riding the Kosi. Not sure what I'll do. Lots of TVT from Christmas when it opens.
Im down this weekend riding/skiing. My Gladstone Friday, maybe Flat White or some BC on Saturday, ride Jindy Sunday. At least I'll be enjoying the mountains.
unfortunately my summer season isn't happening this year. Might do a weekend there but not being tied into a season pass I may even get adventurous and head to bright and falls creek for some riding.
I would normally do maybe 15 days on the bike, but its only because I have the 365, without it, I don't know. Certainly a few, but there are so many places to ride.
Might see you at Mt Gladstone Friday afternoon on my way.
Gee Thredbo is on the reem.
How long will the parochialism serve them?
Hmmm, the crags and local trails are calling this green season.....
I have a fair few friends that ride and don't ski, and vice versa, and they usually buy a season pass, though the increase a year or so ago shook a few out. I reckon $500 is the magic mark on a summer pass. Blue Dirt pass was <$400 (early bird) and gives more venues. Personally lift beats shuttle though.
Went there a couple of weeks ago, the trail skidmark left some serious skid marks.
I'd pick a lift over a bus any day, but Falls rarely runs the summit
I think that they may be embarrassed about the proposed huge increase in cost. Why else would they not have released the passes by now? It seems that covid has become an excuse to get rid of the 365 pass. At least the trails will not be very crowded! Shame about the small food retailers who rely on the bike business for summer.
I think the mother company is having something to say about ticket prices. During Covid its obvious a more for less approach dispite loyalty has ruled.
Having a 365 pass myself was definitely a draw to riding Thredbo during the Summer, and escaping the humidity of Sydney. A place of our own in Thredbo helps. I love mtb and Strava says a 100 days so far this year but living on the northern beaches offers infinite opportunity to ride so I'll only head down to Thredbo when I have to this summer. AGM this weekend, a fight to stop the current DA for Black Bear in November. After that, no plans.
I also feel very sorry for local non KT businesses.
And imo the 365 pass will return in 12 months time but prices will breach $1000 sending even more people to the Epic pass.
Pretty sure friends said the mtb pass was over $600 last year, I remember thinking that my 365 was only $100 or so more than the bike pass. Im a skier who rides, so if its split up, I can live without the bike one, but if the 365 comes back more expensive, I would still likely get it over a winter only.
But as a semi local, I am not the target market. I said once before, my in laws, one time visitors, spent in a week what I would over 4 seasons. My loyalty to Thredbo is to my friends, and the physical place, not the company, its loyalty is not to me, but to its main market, and ultimately to money. Like any company.
This pretty much. Mates and the place, not the company.
I would like to say I am the same too, but I ride more however preference is skiing. Really only rode thredbo as much as I did due to the 365, I find the local trails here are enough and I have no issues with riding up on those ride. I also usually get to go to tassie every year so spend a week or so with Derby then Maydena (both conveniently close to relatives)
, as you camp you do not spend a huge mount of money. However there are many locals and semi-locals who own properties and pay a lot of money to KT for bed tax etc. These are the people who help keep the company afloat during the fires, covid etc. I would have thought that KT would show some appreciation to these people.
You people also have a vested interest to keep the company afloat. Your asset would not be worth as much if there was noone operating facilities in the valley.
Transitioning seasons of flow today
Yes, its more complicated, particularly residents. But semi locals like me, and my friends from Jindy, Dalgety, Berridale etc....talking to friends who have property in Thredbo, but rent it out, they felt looked after. To give an idea of expenditure, I would spend about $5K a year in Thredbo. My in laws spent $20K in a week. My more local friends would spend less than me. While others who live there spend far more. But a $20K a week visitor is your target market surely. Dedicated skiers are great for the vibe, and together we spend a fair bit, but one family on a once in a lifetime (some may return) resort style holiday, are the big spenders. Same when they take that holiday anywhere.
The only "loyalty" involved at any resort is indicated by an individual's decision to select one resort over another on a regular connected basis.
Stay safe people
I do not disagree. However I think KT benefits from having many different accomodation options available. I think it should go both ways.
It depends on if the business model wants skiers vs people on skiing holidays.
Mad River Glen vs Apsen
Broken River vs Coronet Peak.
Skiers are IMO secondary to the business model.
But to be fair a resort is a business.
Just don’t market it otherwise (unless it fits the business model)
A quandary made worse by a pandemic.
Well, it's gone and become too late now. Our friends, all of whom have been skiing Thredbo forever, have gone and purchased epic passes this week. Their close friends, who are also rusted-on Thredbo people, have followed suit so they can ski with the 'gang' next season. That's three couples and one family.
What the actual feck is KT doing?
Adding to the Epic queues ....
Perisher is just going to be nuts next year. In a normal year it is busy. Next year, we will have pent up demand from Victorians and Queenslanders who have not been able to ski this year, plus all those who can’t go to north America this summer. Then there are those who cancelled the epic pass this year because of covid uncertainty. Add on top of that thredbo refugees, return of interschools etc. of course we don’t know how things are going to play out with covid etc. However, I can’t see it being anything than crazy. Either that or reservations for most of the season for pass holders, like the USA epic pass this year.
I’ve had a Perisher pass for 26 years, and have ordered one next year. However, if thredbo does offer one, I think I’ll get one, to try and escape crazy days at Perisher
Not sure, but it’s interesting though, lots of approaches can be taken to restrict capacity there is a thread covering what’s happening in the USA.
Maybe they are waiting to see the learnings from that and other countries overseas before selling a season pass. Alternatively business model maybe shifting along the thoughts of @Untele-whippet “skiers vs people on skiing holidays” maybe focus more on holiday skiers so day tickets and weekly passes are the offerings.
Problem is that some of the customer base hasn’t waited for the offering before making the switch though that could be the intention.
I am bemused that the season pass frothing is all driven by the fake urgency created by Vail associates hysteria marketing of "early bird" pass prices.
People afraid of missing out on saving $40 cutting and running to .... Epic queue for Epic Front Valley
Stay safe people
I remember the first year the cheap pass came, I was tempted, half the price of one at Thredbo, but then I thought, Thredbo will be quiet, that is worth paying double for. Then Thredbo did the same, so I won twice.
Summer prices are now on the website. The hiking passes are better priced than I was expecting (dreading!).
Adult Prices (22-64)
Mtn bike Season Pass - $499
Hiking Season Pass - $299
Mtn Bike 1 Day Lift Pass - $85 (or 72.25 if booking ahead)
Scenic 1 Day Lift Pass - $45 (or $38.20 off if booking a week ahead)
$299 is way too much for me given i'll go on maybe max 2-3 hikes from the top of kossie.
$499, I might be in. I said, $500 is the sweet spot, and there it is.
MTB is significantly better value than the $170 for using 4 lifts for skiing we had recently.
$499. There you go.
The $499 is only for Bike Lift access though. Add $100 for leisure center access, $50 for bobsled and $50 for tennis/golf. Total summer pass price = $699.
I am happy to give the bobsled a miss!
Does anyone know the summer maintenance schedule for kosi chair?
Cross their fingers and hope a chair does not fall off
Other than that I'm afraid I am of no use!
$499 is more tempting than $699.
I don’t mind a river cleanse.
If the Pass is worthwhile I can wait and risk spending an extra $40 or so.
fake urgency=Agree Vail just wants your money for longer.
I did call Thredbo when I saw the Perisher early bird pass was on sale, but not Thredbo. They explained they didn’t feel they could sell an early bird season pass until they knew the conditions under which they would operate next season. which seemed fair enough, although I’d prefer to commit now.
I expect when Thredbo has more certainty they’ll offer the early bird pass, maybe with a very small window. Regular skiers may not deliver astronomical profit margins, but they do deliver the reliable cash flow that keeps everything ticking over. I doubt Thredbo wants to lost hundreds or even thousands of emotionally invested customers.
From my knowledge (limited) don't they try run the Kosi the whole of bike season, then do maintenance in between summer and Winter seasons and run Slowgums instead.
My girlfriend got the 365 last year because the extra $100 didn't seem too much for bushwalking. For $300 (each) we will just head to Charlotte Pass instead.
I'm still expecting a gouge for the winter passes, they will likely try and hold our long enough for it to be too late to buy a cheap epic pass.
imo thredbo are trying to implement a price rise and end the cheap season passes and get semi-regular skiiers (10-15 days per season) back into buying expensive day tickets.
the strategy only works if perisher raise prices too, or if the customer experience at perisher deteriorates too much that thredbo maintain volumes through people willing to pay more for a better experience (shorter queues).
I think you are onto something.
I know but they do say it is the most used lift in the world still in operation due to 30 odd years of near on 365 operation!
$499 seems like a lot unless you spend an awful lot of time there in summer.
An annual pass that is $100 more than winter pass I thought was normal so mistakingly thought the summer pass would be priced around $200-$250.
I suppose the bikes and equipment for summer costs much more than the winter gear.
At least the accommodation is cheaper.
Summer season is nearly six months, it's easy to make the money back.
I don’t post very much in this Thread although I spend plenty of time at Thredbo, albeit mostly outside of the ski season. Our club has a good lodge there, I’ve friends with property and business there and plus 1 and I both had our most recent milestone birthdays there. We take visitors there whenever we can.
With that out of the way......hopefully Thredbo get their act together for all ticketing regardless of season.....The industry needs Thredbo to be competitive. . Just IMO.
Yeah only a few weekends, or a week through the longest school holidays of the year...
bobsled is life