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[Ramshead]

The Daily Tele yarn is so bad it's a disgrace. Absolute 100% gobbledygook. High Noon is one of Australia's steepest and highest runs? Da fark? The skier hit a spur? Huh? Merrits Spur, perhaps??? A bone spur? Who the fark knows?

And that third paragraph... say what now? A-Basin? Isn't that in Colorado? Black Mountain Express? WTF???? We skiing in Canberra now? Base Lodge?

Lower down, they've used a summer map of mtb trails to (wrongly) illustrate the accident site and it just gets worse and worse. The story is impossibly bad and speaks volumes about the demise of the craft of clear writing, not to mention basic fact checking. As a journo you have one job: get shit right. Big shit, little shit, doesn't matter. Fark me.

 

[Ramshead]

The predominant trees at Thredbo are Sallees, black and white

Ohhhhh, so the spindly snow gums are white sallees!

 

[nezumi]

And that third paragraph... say what now? A-Basin? Isn't that in Colorado? Black Mountain Express? WTF???? We skiing in Canberra now? Base Lodge?

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

 

[Ramshead]

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

Oh for fork's sake, that is 100% total shithousery. Pine trees on the trail map didn't give it away? How did that possibly happen? Good pickup BTW Nezumi

 

[hooha]

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

wow, should get Media Watch to embarrass these 'journos' and their bosses

 

[Slowman]

No, the trees you think are mountain ash are alpine ash. The spindly trees are snow gums. Not the fat trunked snow gums you see up higher but snow gums nonetheless. Do the large tres you’re thinking of have strands of dark fibrous bark? My guess is yes, which make them alpine ash, sometimes aka woolybutts. Mountain ash do not, repeat do not, grow above 1100

Yes they do have dark fibrous bark on the lower part of the trunk. I also note chookfooter‘s helpful post. So perhaps the situation is that the large ones in that gulley are, as you point out, Alpine Ash and the thinner ones we are calling spindly are actually Black Sallees with some Snow Gums starting to appear as you get higher up the slope?

 

[KylePee]

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

Wow. Hadn’t read the story but with the excerpt in one of the posts, was starting to wonder if someone had googled a story of an accident over there to get the right structure, but then forgotten to change everything to be locally relevant. It’s clearly someone who has no idea about snow sports or mountains

 

[db2567]

Howling wind in the village. BOM says 91km /hour gusts up top at 0630 hours. So anyone heading here from Jindy,go back to bed or have another coffee.
Maybe Friday flats will run. Even the trees at Friday flats are dancing around.
Didn't hear the kids fireworks last night( and I'm staying at the river inn), are they not on anymore?

 

[dawooduck]

Anyone know why they have a mini excavator digging up on the supertrail just below kareela?
Busted water pipe? Sorry I stopped and looked but didn’t take a pic

Probably a good guess, water supply in or drainage out might be borked.

 

[dawooduck]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...t/news-story/e30a98d4afd56f09402ebee1973d4e58

more details as to what happened. Also can someone explain to me as to what a spur is?

The Daily Telegraph FFS

Do you even Thredbo

 

[dawooduck]

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

..... google journalism

Idiots

 

[Snow Blowey]

The Daily Tele yarn is so bad it's a disgrace. Absolute 100% gobbledygook. High Noon is one of Australia's steepest and highest runs? Da fark? The skier hit a spur? Huh? Merrits Spur, perhaps??? A bone spur? Who the fark knows?

And that third paragraph... say what now? A-Basin? Isn't that in Colorado? Black Mountain Express? WTF???? We skiing in Canberra now? Base Lodge?

Lower down, they've used a summer map of mtb trails to (wrongly) illustrate the accident site and it just gets worse and worse. The story is impossibly bad and speaks volumes about the demise of the craft of clear writing, not to mention basic fact checking. As a journo you have one job: get shit right. Big shit, little shit, doesn't matter. Fark me.

The media has covered a few stories covering issues i was well across through work experience and direct experience with the issue being discussed. Each time they have had it horribly wrong. So in this case they are discussing something you are very familiar with and you can see how wrong it is. So what you should assume is that everything you read in news and current affairs is about half right and half rubbish.

 

[catzizme]

wow, should get Media Watch to embarrass these 'journos' and their bosses

Sent in a tip off, maybe a few other people sending one in as well will ensure it's passage

Tip Offs

Media Watch is Australia's leading forum for media analysis and comment, screening on ABC TV on Monday at 9.15 pm. Turns a critical eye on the media in general and journalism in particular.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Sage O]

The media has covered a few stories covering issues i was well across through work experience and direct experience with the issue being discussed. Each time they have had it horribly wrong. So in this case they are discussing something you are very familiar with and you can see how wrong it is. So what you should assume is that everything you read in news and current affairs is about half right and half rubbish.

Can’t let the truth get in the way of a good story

 

[Snow Blowey]

Can’t let the truth get in the way of a good story

With the ABC i think the journo decides what the story is, then goes out and collects information to support their position.

 

[LMB]

Sent in a tip off, maybe a few other people sending one in as well will ensure it's passage

Tip Offs

Media Watch is Australia's leading forum for media analysis and comment, screening on ABC TV on Monday at 9.15 pm. Turns a critical eye on the media in general and journalism in particular.

www.abc.net.au

Had considered this myself. The hit a spur which sent him into a tree thing, when they then say clearly he was alone and there were no witnesses is a red flag to me also. How do you know what happened? As riders/skiers of that ski run on that day some of us could possibly logically surmise a few potential possibilities as to what happened, but no one knows. So why make stuff up? A spur? Seriously?

 

[Ramshead]

The media has covered a few stories covering issues i was well across through work experience and direct experience with the issue being discussed. Each time they have had it horribly wrong. So in this case they are discussing something you are very familiar with and you can see how wrong it is. So what you should assume is that everything you read in news and current affairs is about half right and half rubbish.

Yes and no. I have often pondered this issue before. Proper research and fact checking will get you over the line with almost everything. You may not sound like an expert but you will sound like someone who has calmly sorted facts into a meaningful order while seeking to understand the issue themselves. This woman sounds like she did a perfunctory Google search and checked nothing, as others have noted above. If she was adjusting bindings, she didn’t even mount them on the skis first

 

[Ramshead]

With the ABC i think the journo decides what the story is, then goes out and collects information to support their position.

I did 10 years at News Corp for my sins and I’m married to an ABC manager and former journo. Happens at all media companies. Depends on the journo. Lefties do it at the ABC, righties do it at News

 

[Annabuzzy]

Had considered this myself. The hit a spur which sent him into a tree thing, when they then say clearly he was alone and there were no witnesses is a red flag to me also. How do you know what happened? As riders/skiers of that ski run on that day some of us could possibly logically surmise a few potential possibilities as to what happened, but no one knows. So why make stuff up? A spur? Seriously?

It’s possible Ski Patrol and/or the police attending the scene determined probable cause of death after the fact. It happens all the time for road traffic accidents (ascribing a cause of death where there are no witnesses). Tyre marks etc may make that easier for a car accident, but I’m not seeing that it would be impossible to look at the scene and determine what likely happened.

Mind you, I have no idea how a spur could be relevant!

 

[dawooduck]

Looks like a "fireside friday" at DaBo

 

[db2567]

Looks like a "fireside friday" at DaBo

Certainly is.
I also filmed it too, but the noise would give you nightmares.

 

[LMB]

It’s possible Ski Patrol and/or the police attending the scene determined probable cause of death after the fact. It happens all the time for road traffic accidents (ascribing a cause of death where there are no witnesses). Tyre marks etc may make that easier for a car accident, but I’m not seeing that it would be impossible to look at the scene and determine what likely happened.

Mind you, I have no idea how a spur could be relevant!

Oh agreed.
Ski patrol would’ve made an assessment for sure. But I’m not sure what I’m reading reads like a ski patrol statement at all. The whole spur thing…
And really… there were a lot of tracks where it wasn’t bulletproof that day, and nothing but polished marble where it was bulletproof. Trying to identify someone’s trajectory on one of the steeper solid pitches - good luck…
If there was a witness that would be a whole other ball game.

 

[LMB]

Looks like a "fireside friday" at DaBo

Sigh.
Last day for me to get in the park and practice that exam element. No luck getting there yesterday and looks like today will be the same. That’s 4 days in the last 7 thwarted but conditions, and one by work. I’m glad I took the opportunity on those other 2 days!

 

[linked recoveries]

Wow. Hadn’t read the story but with the excerpt in one of the posts, was starting to wonder if someone had googled a story of an accident over there to get the right structure, but then forgotten to change everything to be locally relevant. It’s clearly someone who has no idea about snow sports or mountains

That's my sense of it. Copy another similar story and then forget to change the relevant bits. Awful!

 

[skull]

weather looks trash today and tomorrow. I haven't got to ski the resort yet, getting antsy. I might do a day trip with the kids on Sunday.

 

[Cecret Skier]

The reporting of this accident really annoys me on a whole host of levels. Inaccurate reporting like this is unhelpful to conversations I try to have with my kids about going hard when terrain and conditions permit and respecting the risks that evolve when they don't.

On a lighter side, and possibly a bit off topic, how good is the front side of A-Basin?! This thread has given me some good nostalgia for the trip I did there. Beavers (the lift) wasn't open yet and the wall was both closed and way out of my league anyway (!!) so spent my time lapping Pali front side. Such fun terrain. Probably comes as no surprise to you guys, but High Noon at A-basin seemed to me to be the easy "main highway" run back to base you would do with the kids after lessons so even that bit is wrong in the article. Anyhow, highly recommended for anyone near that side of Colorado, at least as a day trip from Denver or Keystone/Breck etc...!

 

[BlueHue]

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

Gotta be AI written article. Script goes looking for ski runs called Hign Noon and finds the one at A-basin. A human, you'd hope would be capable of applying the least bit of fact checking common sense to at least get continent right but a computer program will only run within its bounds.

 

[Chookfooter]

I think you lot are being a bit harsh on the Tele, they got the whole private school thing across and that's all that is important, all the rest is puff.

 

[Alleve]

I think you lot are being a bit harsh on the Tele, they got the whole private school thing across and that's all that is important, all the rest is puff.

I don't know, I think they shouldve mentioned it a second time for good measure

 

[iagreewithhim]

The media has covered a few stories covering issues i was well across through work experience and direct experience with the issue being discussed. Each time they have had it horribly wrong. So in this case they are discussing something you are very familiar with and you can see how wrong it is. So what you should assume is that everything you read in news and current affairs is about half right and half rubbish.

^^This. I've only ever had personal knowledge or involvement in two stories that have made the newspaper. In both cases they were wrong in every important detail. I don't believe anything I read in the press.

Edit: Except perhaps the ABC, with reservation.

 

[LMB]

^^This. I've only ever had personal knowledge or involvement in two stories that have made the newspaper. In both cases they were wrong in every important detail. I don't believe anything I read in the press.

Edit: Except perhaps the ABC, with reservation.

Indeed.
2 cases I’ve known of were a disgrace. It was like a witch hunt with absolute disregard for the facts.

 

[robbo mcs]

It’s possible Ski Patrol and/or the police attending the scene determined probable cause of death after the fact. It happens all the time for road traffic accidents (ascribing a cause of death where there are no witnesses). Tyre marks etc may make that easier for a car accident, but I’m not seeing that it would be impossible to look at the scene and determine what likely happened.

Mind you, I have no idea how a spur could be relevant!

Unfortunately there have been quite a few deaths on the hill when I have been skiing (Perisher). Largely they have not made the news, or minimal news.

In one instance I saw police, patrol and mountain ops come out after the event. A whole lot of photo taking, measurements, marking things with flags etc, just like you see for a death with a motor vehicle accident.

 

[LMB]

Unfortunately there have been quite a few deaths on the hill when I have been skiing (Perisher). Largely they have not made the news, or minimal news.

In one instance I saw police, patrol and mountain ops come out after the event. A whole lot of photo taking, measurements, marking things with flags etc, just like you see for a death with a motor vehicle accident.

Had 2 while we were in Telluride, one at our lodge that we had to go around while being treated/transported. Both heart attacks (one a middle aged holiday maker, the other a hard core splitboarder/instructor in his 30s who lived there.
It’s kind of a part of life…

It’s the avoidable accidents that I feel we can learn from that should be reported and discussed , at least in the ski community and within resort. The “could we take reasonable measures to reduce the chance of a repeat incident here” question.

 

[Snow Blowey]

what colour body outline chalk do they use at the snow?

 

[AWJ]

what colour body outline chalk do they use at the snow?

surely yellow

 

[LMB]

Still clear snow falling heavily in town, all day now. I do hope it’s frozen stuff falling up higher.

 

[Telemark Phat]

I think you lot are being a bit harsh on the Tele, they got the whole private school thing across and that's all that is important, all the rest is puff.

Only private school kids are allowed to ski at Thredbo. Needed to emphasise that the victim hadn't snuck their way onto the mountain.

 

[telecrag]

Unfortunately there have been quite a few deaths on the hill when I have been skiing (Perisher). Largely they have not made the news, or minimal news.

Is that because you are good at hiding them?

 

[skull]

Only private school kids are allowed to ski at Thredbo.

hopefully they don't find out about my kids.

 

[climberman]

Only private school kids are allowed to ski at Thredbo. Needed to emphasise that the victim hadn't snuck their way onto the mountain.

Leave me alone man.

 

[skichic]

what colour body outline chalk do they use at the snow?

White works at Friday Flat

 

[Telemark Phat]

Leave me alone man.

Do you think they'd let me in if I weren't one. I need to carry a letter from the school since I live in Boringdale.

 

[Telemark Phat]

White works at Friday Flat

White bark?

 

[Snow Blowey]

Is that because you are good at hiding them?

They always seem to occur just behind you. Weird coincidence.

 

[climberman]

Do you think they'd let me in if I weren't one. I need to carry a letter from the school since I live in Boringdale.

I have to smuggle my kids in.

 

[Telezacski]

They always seem to occur just behind you. Weird coincidence.

It’s a matter of 10 seconds, you either stack or get busted following TC

 

[skichic]

I have to smuggle my kids in.

My kids and I attended private schools for some of primary. We are allowed in occasionally (under sufferance).

 

[Telezacski]

The lengths I’ve gone to to get @DidSurfNowSki in to the place! But they are seriously questioning me as he keeps skiing with @Kletterer

 

[sourmash]

Who ever would have thought that multiple resorts have a run named High Noon?

It's a piss poor attempt at journalism.

Looks like the story was regurgitated by the Daily Mail AU complete with a picture of Perisher, clearly showing Village 8 chair.

 

[Chookfooter]

Looks like the story was regurgitated by the Daily Mail AU complete with a picture of Perisher, clearly showing Village 8 chair.

At least they were in the right country.