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Thredbo Accommodation

Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by Nidecker, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. Nidecker

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    I would imagine Christiania would be delighted to assist you, unless you wrecked the place last time [​IMG]
     
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  2. Bogong

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    Nope, we've never trashed a place, we leave every place we hire spotless, even if there isn't a manager in residence. We've run over a dozen trips over the last 7 years in this format and we've left every place immaculate. (Details can be supplied if you want to check up on that.)

    Hiking! has hired three places at Thredbo for our summer trips.

    * The first was a club, which was nice for what it was, but feedback forms indicated that the punters thought it was too basic.

    * The second was a commercial lodge which claimed to be 3 1/2 star, but I doubt it really was and anyway, they'd converted their lounge area into extra bedrooms, so there wasn't anywhere to socialise. The managers were nice, but it wasn't the right sort of place for a big social trip like the ones we run.

    * The third place was a nice club next door to the disappointing commercial lodge. It was perfect, everything we wanted and more! But they say they won't hire it to us on Boxing Day as a couple of their members are thinking about staying on Boxing Day. [​IMG] My offer of paying a generous rate for 40 people, 6 months in advance, didn't interest them, so I don't know what else we can do. [​IMG]

    So thanks guys. Even though it has bunk beds (which always attract rude comments on our feedback forms), I've already contacted Christiana as otherwise it looks ideal. I will also have a look at Alpenhorn's website to get an idea of what the place is like. If it looks appropriate, I'll contact them too. [​IMG]
     
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  3. HappyGirl

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    Christiania is a great venue for a large group booking....

    http://sasc-aus.squarespace.com/christiana-lodge-thredbo/
     
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    You could try Schuss ski club. However it is probably smaller than you want - 24 bed I think. But it meets your other requirements.

    I would be surprised if there were not quite a few clubs that would meet your requirements.
     
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    Lantern Apartments. Commercial, could fit everyone in.
    I stayed there in the off season when a mate of mine got married, along with most everyone else.
     
  6. Bogong

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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Thanks folks, keep them coming. I'll check the website of every Thredbo lodge mentioned.

    To reiterate, we want to hire a lodge or Hotel at Thredbo from 26 - 30 December. As we will be filling a place in the off season and handling all bookings ourselves, we expect a big discount off the rack rate, but we will pay the full amount 4 months in advance. We are looking for a lodge with the following:

    * 30 to 45 beds (we will only guarantee to fill the first 35, but will probably sell more)

    * Exclusive occupancy (except for a resident manager if there is one).

    * Ensuite 2 and 3 share rooms. (Although one larger room with bunks is okay, we can sell those beds at a discount to people on a tight budget.)

    * A good central lounge area, preferably two areas. Somewhere for people on the trip to gather, eat breakfast together, chat and have a drink in the evening.

    * Bed linen, either included in the tarrif or available to hire.

    * Desirable (but not essential) are guest access to a decent kitchen and no bunk beds.

    A few people here have been on Hiking! summer trips, but for those who haven't, the format is.

    Based at a hotel in an appealing walking area, people have a choice of three walks each day, rated easy, medium and hard. Alternately, people are free to just take a day off to relax. All walks are guided by experienced people with first aid skills who know the area. Hiking! is fully covered by liability insurance.

    In the evenings people can do their own thing, either hang around the lodge/hotel or go out to a restaurant for a feed. Most people on the trip are aged from their mid 20's to late 40's, although there are usually a few younger than that and some mature age people.

    We are scrupulously non-profit (guides don't get paid, they just get a free room and about $35 day to cover their expenses). These 5 day trips cost between $30 and $50 per day, depending on the standard of accommodation and how much we pay for transfers on walks (so far we've travelled by mini-bus, heritage train and chairlift).

    If a lodge manager wants to confirm that we really do look after places we hire, I can provide details of 12 lodges and hotels at 7 locations that we have hired in recent years. [​IMG]
     
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  7. wangster

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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Now that I think about it, it's a very busy time in Thredbo so some of the commercial lodges may be a little hesitant to give discounts.

    Hope your group is willing to wait an hour for the chair on the 27th [​IMG]
     
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  8. Bogong

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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Yep, it seems to be hard to get exclusive occupancy of a half decent place at that time of the year, I've had a few polite refusals. [​IMG] We are very keen to do "Thredbo and the Snowy Mountains" on Boxing Day, but only if we can hire a nice lodge at a reasonable price in the next few weeks.

    Planned trips that are close to being ready are "Hotham, Dinner Plain and the Great Alpine Road", "Marysville, the Cathedral Range and tall forests" and "Mt Field and Mt Mawson (Tas)". So if we can't score a 3 1/2 (ish) star place at Thredbo by the end of this month, we'll have to run one of those trips on Boxing Day instead.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    I've spent the last five or six boxing day to after new years down at Jindy..mostly up at Thredbo during the day and I can assure you its busy.
    Its packed.
    Even our van park is at full occupancy over that period of time.

    Good luck.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    An alternative could be Altitude 1260. It's not in Thredbo, 20 minutes away in summer, but great views, about the size you need, probably quiet at that time of the year
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Yeah I was thinking down the valley a bit
    I struggled to get a carpark in Thredbo on the 27th December this year...
     
  12. Bogong

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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Nah. One of the things we've learned from feedback forms is that punters don't want to drive very far every day. Ideally, they want half the walks to start from the front door. On recent trips we've actually run shuttle mini buses to get people back to Thredbo from Charlotte Pass (or back to Baw Baw from Mushroom Rocks).

    So we really need to have a place with good walks on the doorstep. As we run a dozen walks on most trips and 90% of the people on these trips are Victorians, Thredbo is the only place we can use as a base for a trip to the Main Range.

    But we can also sell 35 places at c.$200 for 5 day / 4 night Hiking! trips based at Hotham/Dinner Plain, Marysville or Mt Field. So while Thredbo is our preferred destination, we have may have to give it a miss this Boxing Day, in the same way we gave our preferred destination of Cradle Mountain a miss last year. Regulars like the format of the trips and most trust us to choose a good place to run the trips and find good accommodation.

    So if we can't find a nice lodge at Thredbo, we won't be doing a Snowy Mountains trip on Boxing Day and another area will benefit from the five figure sum that we spend on these trips. [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Thing is, that five figure sum is coming to Thredbo at that time of the year whether you go or not.

    It's a shame, but even if you came a week later it would work
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing..
    The amount of people around drops exponentially after the 4th of jan or so
    IMO Thredbo village is busier at new years than winter...or rather it appears so.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    The argument we put to hotel and lodge managers in their 'off season', (ski resorts is summer, beach resorts in winter, etc.), is that we will fill every bed they have and pay in full 4+ months in advance.

    The alternative is they rely on unpredictable bookings from members (if they're a club) or from booking services that take a large fee (if they're a hotel or commercial lodge). They will be lucky to fill even half their beds and it will cause them lots of bother.

    Alternately, we can give them a big fat payment 4 months in advance, we handle all the bookings, room allocations, wrangle the punters and take care of everything. To get this guaranteed income stream, they don't have to do a thing except for a few hours cleaning after we depart

    That argument has been very successful for us. We've booked over a dozen hotels and lodges using it (including 3 at Thredbo) and the only time it's failed was at Cradle Mountain last year... and possibly Thredbo this year.

    So if that sounds appealing to any lodge manager at Thredbo, please send an email to the address I mentioned above. [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    I can drive buses, so its easy to hire a 24 seater minibus and put a trailer behind it for baggage. If you're interested I can help you out on a volunteer basis, with accom & meals requested at no cost to me--meals can be commercially prepared or prepared in an informal shared arrangement.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Sorry to hear your having probs with accom this year Bogong as I know you're a good group. Thing is, club lodges aren't all about money. Many old established lodges (like the one I know you're referring to) are very wealthy old lodges and that's why they need to keep the bookings open for the members... some of those members have sweated blood and tears over the years to have their lodge available whenever they feel like going to the mountains. I know it sounds stupid not to accept the money, but this is not always their priority. From my experience, said lodge will be more than 3/4 full on the 27th with a waiting list on the 29th.

    Best of luck [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Hmmm dates: didn't look at those when I replied.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Why not try Charlotte Pass ? Smack on the Main Range and you can drive to the door in summer.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Thanks Sastrugi. I know what you mean. [​IMG]

    But the way I personally see it is if we pay about $6,000 to the club we're talking about, that's a big reduction on what membership fees would be for every member the next year... or a small discount on the price members have to pay to stay there each night. So in a way it is about money because as a former member of a (different) club lodge, I know that the one way to alienate the membership of a ski club is the committee having a call on members for more cash.

    But maybe it's just me and my friends (many of them are still club members) who think like that?
     
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  21. Bogong

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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    We considered that. But over 80% the people on our email list are Victorians and it's a hell of a long drive for them just to get to Thredbo. Add an extra hour to the trip to get to Charlotte Pass and it's just too far...

    A secondary reason is that Charlotte Pass is pretty dead at the best of times, especially in summer. But that's just a minor disadvantage and not a deal breaker in itself. As far as I know, Hiking! is the only group who have ever run semi-package trips out of a lodge at Mt Mawson ski field. But there, the superb walks and the novelty of the destination partly make up for the relative isolation, lack of cafes or pubs and the less than ideal road.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Fair enough on the travel, I thought that might be a part of it.

    Is the hotel open over the summer period at CP ? It is a lovely location that seems to me to suit a group like Hiking! sounds.

    I agree that Thredbo would be the most obvious option, it's a great spot.

    G'luck !
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Like I said Bogong, it's a wealthy club. Most of them drop more money on a t-shirt than on their annual subs which remain ridiculously low, as do the nightly and weekly rates. You've seen the renovation. Over 5 decades they have set up the Club to pay for this convenience. I understand your frustration but you have to accept that apart from July school hols and first week of August, you're asking a lot for any Club to close for a week on the 3rd busiest week of the year.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Boxing Day is the third busiest week of the year? [​IMG] I thought the place would be chockers all through July, August and early September. While Thredbo is the most successful ski resort in summer (they deserve to be after 55 years of heavily promoting it as a summer destination), the resort does wildly inflate their summer occupancy rates and on some summer weekends I've seen the resort almost deserted.

    Yes, I've seen the renovation of the lodge we're talking about, that's why we are so keen to hire it again! [​IMG] It's absolutely ideal for the large social trips we run on Boxing Day and heaps better than the commercial lodge next door that we hired a few years earlier. About the only (minor) failing is that some (overly fussy) people found the bedrooms a little small. Please let me know if they ever want a bit of extra income and I'll gladly hire the place again. But by the sound of it, that's fairly unlikely. [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    or you need to consider a thredbo trip later in Jan, maybe aus day?
     
  26. Bogong

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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Curra, I developed this format with some friends when I was running a very large walking club and back then I ran a Thredbo trip at Easter for 72 people! But that was way too big and the format hadn't been tweaked to be as punter friendly as it is now. By the time we ran a trip based at Sastrugi's lodge at Thredbo, Hiking! was semi-autonomous and a lot slicker than the old club.

    A three day weekend is too short to justify the very long drive to Thredbo. As for an Easter trip to Thredbo, Hiking! only has about 140 people on our email list and some of them are mainly interested in winter snow walks and climbs. So with the incredibly long drive required on Easter Thursday night, we couldn't be confident of getting the numbers for an Easter trip. And to accommodate the format of offering a choice of walks of different grades each day, we need a minimum of about 25 people (plus 3 guides / trip managers).

    So if we can't hire somewhere nice at Thredbo for a Boxing Day trip in the next week, the "Big Trip" schedule for Hiking! will probably be:

    26 - 30 Dec 2012 Hotham, Dinner Plain and the Great Alpine Road.

    Easter 2013. Marysville and surrounds.

    Boxing Day 2013. Mt Mawson and Mt Field National Park (near Hobart).

    But we really want to run another Thredbo trip, so if anyone knows a lodge manager that might be interested in getting paid many thousands of dollars for very little work, please contact us. [​IMG]
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    I understand the attraction of boxing day, i just wondered if thedbo was attractive enough to entice enough people to take extra days off work. i know you booked out very fast last time you went there
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    On the last Thredbo trip, we sold 40 places inside 3 days, but at that time I still had connections to the big club I'd been president of for years. But I've lost contact with many of those people and Hiking! is a much smaller group that relies on word of mouth.

    My friends and I are happy with that. Managing the logistics, dysfunctional personalities and politics of a club that had 1000 members at the time I was president were a lot of hard work and many of the people who are now involved with Hiking! wouldn't go near any club for that reason.

    So I guess we suffer from "Goldilocks Syndrome". We want to be big enough to run our large trips. But not so big that we lose the friendliness, informality and responsiveness of a smaller group.

    By only running occasional trips, we can ensure that the destinations and routes of walks are always good, our guides/leaders are of the highest standard, that we are friendly and always focussed on making people's experiences the best we can make them.

    But I digress... These days a Boxing Day trip to Thredbo would probably take 2 months to fill 40 beds, rather than the 3 days when details were circulated to my former club as well. As we don't have much in the bank, we need to be confident that a semi-package trip will sell out before we decide to run it. So we're not brave enough to risk an Easter trip to Thredbo.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    You should see Jindabyne change on Boxing Day Bogong. On Xmas day it is dead, on Boxing day you'd swear it was the middle of winter.
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Have ya tried the House of Ullr????? (Hotel)

    Great location, great bar, no kitchen facilities but the restaurant food has always been good whenever I've stayed!!!!!

    Other than that, maybe a couple of the larger free standing chalets over in Woodridge that are close to each other????? Stroll to the village for apres hike, or even stay around Woodridge for BBQ's n Beers under the shade of the snow gums!!!!!

    Ohh, there's also the River Inn, over in Woodridge, plenty of rooms, not sure about the kitchen in summer nor their bar, but they do have a great lounge area for a group like yours, it has a bar but they had no trouble lettin our group byo!!!!!

    Have ya rang the reservations to see what they have on offer?????

    Hope this helps somewhat, Bogong?????
     
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    Re: Thredbo Accommodation needed. 35 beds from 26 - 30 December.

    Thanks Mizu, I've walked past Ullr lots of times, but it never occurred to me to hire it in summer. I'll look at their website and possibly phone them. Years ago I think I talked to the hotel at Woodridge about hiring all their rooms, but (from memory) they either weren't interested or were asking way to much money.

    As I think I said, a good communal lounge area is essential, but guest access to a kitchen is merely desirable, (on a typical trip 2/3 of people eat out most nights and 1/3 cook for themselves on at least some nights).