Except the biggest traffic and parking problems are before that and going up Kosci Rd so would only solve about a quarter of the problem.
Nuts Fozzie, Parks need to review their model. Sand do the maths!Would require NPWS to change their charge model as currently actively discourages ride share and bus usage as they charge a per head fee for park access whereas private vehicles are charged per vehicle irrespective of the number of occupants.
That is super unfortunate, all beginners should learn how to use Ts whether they're on one plank or two. Qs are always at their worst with beginners trying to learn how to ride a T solo on a busy day. How did I learn to ride a T? I was taught, back when there were beginner T bars.
The Basin is a good beginner T, easy walk back up to the Kosi if you fall off or just a traverse back across to the groomers if you don't want to walk. Only problem is the queue that's created if they don't give up.
Baw Baw was a good place for beginners to learn tbars, and since the Maltese cross was "advanced" riders only some lifties had no issues with directing anyone who failed to load twice back up the hill to learn how to ride a T. ("Get the fcuk off my lift and come back when you can ride")
Everyone should be able to walk even if they can't traverse across.
In the olden days when it was a self loader.Best T to learn on is Sponars.
Sponars and Antons as self loaders were the absolute Bomb!
The very bottom take off area of the Basin T is a bit steep for beginners IMO
During a blizzard.Best T to learn on is Sponars.
At least you know when your getting to the exit post because the T ends up near your ankles as a warning sign.
It’s likely…Anyone heard if they are running again this year???
New Trial Bus Service Boosts Access to Snowfields | Transport for NSW
A trial bus service to better connect Jindabyne, Perisher and Thredbo will make travelling through the Kosciuszko National Park even easierwww.transport.nsw.gov.au
The trial service last year was such an arrangement for the buses.
Go for your life. My maths came from one of the resorts, I'm sure they would be interested in your easy solutions.
The resort efforts failed because they were very half hearted. I think they made the attempts to be able to say it's too hard.
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The resorts, TfNSW, Parks, SM council and the various tourist boards should revisit this (famous?) image to see the fallacy in their vehicle-management plan.
Road space: bus vs bikes vs cars – a famous photo recreated in Canberra
Many years ago the German city of Munster set up a photo comparing the road space taken by people in a bus, on bikes, and in cars. Earlier this month the Cycling Promotion Fund recreated that pictu…
Clearly, even shifting 10 or 15% traffic to PT will make quite a difference in peak periods, when the roads and car parks are bursting!
I remember once, a long time ago, probs 90s. The entire bluff area was sheet ice, but the Basin was busy with reasonable snow. Then the lift broke down and the entire enormous queue had to traverse back across the face under the bluff as the runs were closed due to conditions. It was a mind boggling nightmare. People slipping on ice everywhere, and some took their skis off and tried to walk it and ended up bulleting down the hill. I would hope to never, ever see that carnage again.
EVERYONE should be taught to traverse at the very start of their time on snow.
Where do they learn to ride a t-bat before getting there? Not Friday Flat, not Merrits, and Anton’s and Sponars are worse to learn on.
Looks like they’re duckshoved to Perisher or Charlotte.
I’m fortunate, I mainly use that intersection in summer. Those numbers suggest traffic lights are needed. The newish slip road can only do so much in the peak.
If I remember from doing my level 1 when they were checkout out our skiing that's an "advanced drill" to ride across the face leaving a smooth track, and not something they teach below high intermediate. Seems weird because it was taught to me early on as a basic survival skill.
Love those t-bats!
Go back to post #1,607, looks like it's being replaced with a chair.
FF needed to expand and probably still needs to expand to do that well.
I have on way up to Thredbo but it is a rare event IME experience with combo of good snow/weather in peak season on weekends sort of deal ie some of 2019s bug dumps, it's usually before skitube or getting in/out of Jindabyne IME. Problem is those worst days traffic times were in the lead up to COVID ie upward trend. Without action it will get worse or at least not get better when numbers visiting the resorts plateau after recent surge.
I agree and was going to write this however... I would assume the thinking would be to not put people off t-bars for life down at FF... get them started properly then they can accomplish this when they get to the next level, at Merrits.
I took 2-3 hours from Jindabyne to Thredbo once. I assume that's more than those numbers because it wasn't really stop start, instead it was just stop. This was after 60cm overnight so not a common situation.
I know a handful of modestly (very!) proficient snowboarders who just won’t do t-bars. Which is a shame, because to optimise Australian skiing (wind exposed, very windy) you need to use t-bars at higher elevations.
My daughter, who is very proficient on board or skis and does use any lift, reckons it hurts on a board.
I know some that don't like it because of the bar being applied to the inner thigh. Also going up with another rider can make them appear ambiguously gay, although opinion is split amongst them over whether that is a bad thing.
I think they just find it harder than they like.
And this is the EXACT argument for not specifically lifting GCB as well. If you can ski it, you can ski it and not need a lift dropping you at the top. If you can't get into it, you shouldn't be there. Lifting it will make it accessible to those who aren't capable of getting down it.
