Thredbo Development - bang a gong and get it ON!

[fenrir]

Have to say I disagree with the sentiment on that one, but this is one of my fave T-Bo T-Bar boarder stacks-

My two buddies fell, got locked into one another (face first) and the T stuck in there too, and got dragged up for what felt like half the lift before they finally came unstuck. As a skier, riding with another skier, I was able to turn around to document the spectacle for them, including a vid I won’t share here..

Classic!

Not at Thredbo but one of my mates really leaned into the optics whilst the other was oblivious.

 

[sastrugi]

Have to say I disagree with the sentiment on that one, but this is one of my fave T-Bo T-Bar boarder stacks-

My two buddies fell, got locked into one another (face first) and the T stuck in there too, and got dragged up for what felt like half the lift before they finally came unstuck. As a skier, riding with another skier, I was able to turn around to document the spectacle for them, including a vid I won’t share here..

One of my best friends came to grief on a board at that exact same spot, the T hit the pylon then her head and she was knocked out cold. With a helmet on. Not one of my fave t-bar stack memories

BTW, you can share the vid here... we're all friends

 

[AJS]

One of my best friends came to grief on a board at that exact same spot, the T hit the pylon then her head and she was knocked out cold. With a helmet on. Not one of my fave t-bar stack memories

BTW, you can share the vid here... we're all friends

Your poor friend, hope they recovered ok!!

 

[telecrag]

My laugh is at the last line, bad stacks are not usually funny.

 

[AWJ]

Thredbo has been approved to build a couple new bike trails & snowmaking:

Cruiser Green Bike Trail:

Cruiser Blue Bike Trail:

Friday Flat & Middle Slopes Snowmaking:

Sundowner Snowmaking:

 

[AWJ]

Also got a DA in for services upgrade for Merritts Restaurant with:

Which i guess means the Restaurant rebuild won't happen till the 23/24 summer?

 

[BlueHue]

Also got a DA in for services upgrade for Merritts Restaurant with:

Which i guess means the Restaurant rebuild won't happen till the 23/24 summer?

Where are you finding the DA info? Most sources no longer update as far as I can tell anymore.

 

[AWJ]

Just found this little graphic on Events Investor section:

• Alpine Coaster - 22/23 summer
• More Cruiser bike park - 22/23 and 23/24 summers
• Snowgums chair replacement in 23/24 summer
• Preliminary construction on Merritts Restaurant also 23/24 summer

https://www.evt.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Ord-Minnett-Leisure-Tourism-Gaming-Conference.pdf

 

[AWJ]

Where are you finding the DA info? Most sources no longer update as far as I can tell anymore.

It was a real PITA to find but...

DA Exhibitions:
https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/daex/on exhibition?field_local_government_area_value=SNOWY+MONARO+REGIONAL&field_application_type_value=All&field_panel_reference_number_value=&field_council_unique_number_value=&title=&field_exhibition_start_date_value=&field_exhibition_end_date_value=

DA Under Consideration:
https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/daex/under consideration?field_local_government_area_value=SNOWY+MONARO+REGIONAL&field_application_type_value=All&field_panel_reference_number_value=&field_council_unique_number_value=&title=&field_exhibition_start_date_value=&field_exhibition_end_date_value=

DA Determined:
https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov....d_date_value=&field_determination_date_value=

 

[Alleve]

Where are you finding the DA info? Most sources no longer update as far as I can tell anymore.

Gotta love the Govt's IT, they took a perfectly functioning website and replaced it with a website that's way harder to use

Just found this little graphic on Events Investor section:

• Alpine Coaster - 22/23 summer
• More Cruiser bike park - 22/23 and 23/24 summers
• Snowgums chair replacement in 23/24 summer
• Preliminary construction on Merritts Restaurant also 23/24 summer

https://www.evt.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Ord-Minnett-Leisure-Tourism-Gaming-Conference.pdf

I wonder what Cruiser MTB stages 2 and 3 will entail. Will be interesting to see. If they want to build the Snowgums for 2024, they better get on with submitting a DA because they won't get approval in time otherwise

 

[AWJ]

Gotta love the Govt's IT, they took a perfectly functioning website and replaced it with a website that's way harder to use

I wonder what Cruiser MTB stages 2 and 3 will entail. Will be interesting to see. If they want to build the Snowgums for 2024, they better get on with submitting a DA because they won't get approval in time otherwise

I'm guessing some lights to enable night comps, maybe another easy trail as well

 

[AWJ]

Thredbo has a couple more DA's in for new mountain bike trails.

1) https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov....ower-all-mountain-mtb-trail-diversion-thredbo

2) https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov....untain-bike-trail-within-cruiser-area-thredbo

 

[BlueHue]

Upgrade to snow sports operations building and new snow runner as well:

DA 22/9507 Friday Flat ski Area, Thredbo - installation of snowrunner and Snowsports School | Planning Portal - Department of Planning and Environment

www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au

 

[LaNeige]

Upgrade to snow sports operations building and new snow runner as well:

DA 22/9507 Friday Flat ski Area, Thredbo - installation of snowrunner and Snowsports School | Planning Portal - Department of Planning and Environment

www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au

I have a dream that the next snow runner will be from Karels ... Well to somewhere.

From this DA it appears my dream remain unrealised. It's for FF.

 

[dawooduck]

Whilst the concept is sound I would think that area will need significant regrading to be an affective beginner area.

 

[Covo]

where is the DA for the snowgums replacement?

 

[Telemark Phat]

where is the DA for the snowgums replacement?

Gunbarrel is going to have to function correctly a couple of more times first.

 

[telecrag]

If they simply replace the existing line, do they need one?

 

[LMB]

Gunbarrel is going to have to function correctly a couple of more times first.

Lot of windhold this week, and Gunbarrel has kept turning.

 

[Alleve]

where is the DA for the snowgums replacement?

I had my hopes up for when I saw there were new posts in the thread. Alas...

Gunbarrel is going to have to function correctly a couple of more times first.

If KT want to get the DA passed quickly, they should frame it from a compassionate standpoint - ie "if you let us replace the lift, the poor wombats living under the lift line won't have to worry about chairs dropping on them". NPWS will love that

 

[Telemark Phat]

I had my hopes up for when I saw there were new posts in the thread. Alas...

If KT want to get the DA passed quickly, they should frame it from a compassionate standpoint - ie "if you let us replace the lift, the poor wombats living under the lift line won't have to worry about chairs dropping on them". NPWS will love that

Planning wouldn't be convinced, the Gunbarrel chairs are meant to detach.

 

[Alleve]

Had a read through the FF DA and was surprised to see that the point of the new carpet is to allow the skidoo that transports the kids on a sled (which they've named Freddy) to be phased out, apparently due to safety and environmental concerns. It all started to make more sense when I got a bit further in and KT said it was concerned about people walking on snow to access the current ski school area.

 

[dawooduck]

No more Freddy

Kids love Freddy

 

[Arne]

I hope they double the capacity for bikes on the Gunbarrel. They'll need it. That side of the hill will be mucho fun in the future.
Kosi for speed, Gunner for fun.

 

[Ramshead]

Is mountain biking fun? Have always looked at it and thought it looks like a day of bushwalking wasted. Put it this way: is it as fun as skiing/boarding in reasonable or better snow conditions?

 

[LMB]

No more Freddy

Kids love Freddy

Devo.
Ski instructors love Freddy too - get a tow up the hill!

 

[climberman]

Is mountain biking fun? Have always looked at it and thought it looks like a day of bushwalking wasted. Put it this way: is it as fun as skiing/boarding in reasonable or better snow conditions?

A reasonable day MTB I think better than a reasonable ski.

A fantastic day skiing wins hands down though.

 

[fenrir]

Lot of windhold this week, and Gunbarrel has kept turning.

Wind but not freak gusts. The top tower realignment had nothing to do with whatever the problem was, just a weird localised squall.

 

[fenrir]

Is mountain biking fun? Have always looked at it and thought it looks like a day of bushwalking wasted. Put it this way: is it as fun as skiing/boarding in reasonable or better snow conditions?

From my contacts in healthcare I can tell you that the consequences of mountain bike falls are worse on average than anything on skis. Depends if it's the risk factor that makes it fun. If so...yes?

 

[Alleve]

I hope they double the capacity for bikes on the Gunbarrel. They'll need it. That side of the hill will be mucho fun in the future.
Kosi for speed, Gunner for fun.

When they replace it, it'll presumably be a six-pack, which would mean triple the bike capacity (3 per chair). Not having chairs falling off the cable tends to increase capacity too

 

[telecrag]

MTB is similar in a way to skiing IMO, but the consequence of minor failure is much higher. More people die skiing, but more people get hurt MTB. The danger of either is not what attracts me, its the way it feels. MTB doesn't require snow, so the season is much longer. But the freedom of skiing kicks MTB's butt for mine. If I could ski every day, I would never have discovered the joy of MTB.

 

[BlueHue]

From my contacts in healthcare I can tell you that the consequences of mountain bike falls are worse on average than anything on skis. Depends if it's the risk factor that makes it fun. If so...yes?

Fractured my scaphoid skiing in 2020. Doc just laughed and said this is nothing compared to what mtn bikers do to their wrists.

 

[dawooduck]

Devo.
Ski instructors love Freddy too - get a tow up the hill!

The importance of Freddy in the success of the Thredboland product will be a hard loss.

 

[sastrugi]

Is mountain biking fun? Have always looked at it and thought it looks like a day of bushwalking wasted. Put it this way: is it as fun as skiing/boarding in reasonable or better snow conditions?

Speaking as a long term skier and bushwalker, and someone quite new to MTB, I think it’s bloody fantastic!! Couple of disclaimers - I don’t do the downhill but love flow trails, and I have an EMTB.

A few years back I went to Thredbo in summer for a yoga festival and took my crappy little bike we’d found in an apartment building storage as I was the only one of a group of friends who wasn’t doing any biking. I was pretty fit from thrice weekly yoga & Pilates. I nailed that TVT in a way that had me punching the air like it was a fantastic windblown powder day, and finally I ‘got’ what it was all about. None of my friends could believe I hadn’t done it before.

Cut to now, and 8 months ago we both invested in emtbs for +1’s significant birthday. We’re hooked… and he hasn’t even done trails yet! We have a fantastic network of dirt roads around us and can do 50km or so rides without even touching bitumen. This summer we will be exploring trails at Eildon and Mt Stirling. My main gripe with it is we never have enough time for it. I’m keen to take the bikes to Tassie too. I’m currently more keen to plan bike holidays than ski holidays.

@climberman nailed it when he said “a reasonable day MTB I think better than a reasonable ski.

A fantastic day skiing wins hands down though.“

 

[telecrag]

Its dangerous in other ways, in the last 15 years I have bought 19 bikes.

 

[telecrag]

Actually, the last one, I bought 5 months ago, was the first in five years, so 18 of those were in ten years! No wonder I never needed a new chain!

 

[Ramshead]

Speaking as a long term skier and bushwalker, and someone quite new to MTB, I think it’s bloody fantastic!! Couple of disclaimers - I don’t do the downhill but love flow trails, and I have an EMTB.

A few years back I went to Thredbo in summer for a yoga festival and took my crappy little bike we’d found in an apartment building storage as I was the only one of a group of friends who wasn’t doing any biking. I was pretty fit from thrice weekly yoga & Pilates. I nailed that TVT in a way that had me punching the air like it was a fantastic windblown powder day, and finally I ‘got’ what it was all about. None of my friends could believe I hadn’t done it before.

Cut to now, and 8 months ago we both invested in emtbs for +1’s significant birthday. We’re hooked… and he hasn’t even done trails yet! We have a fantastic network of dirt roads around us and can do 50km or so rides without even touching bitumen. This summer we will be exploring trails at Eildon and Mt Stirling. My main gripe with it is we never have enough time for it. I’m keen to take the bikes to Tassie too. I’m currently more keen to plan bike holidays than ski holidays.

@climberman nailed it when he said “a reasonable day MTB I think better than a reasonable ski.

A fantastic day skiing wins hands down though.“

I like this response. Thanks for taking the time. Am tempted. Would partic like to do the TVT. Not so interested in the ski mountain

 

[sastrugi]

I like this response. Thanks for taking the time. Am tempted. Would partic like to do the TVT. Not so interested in the ski mountain

It’s definitely worth trying out, especially TVT. I just wish I’d started a bit earlier. You certainly don’t have to be doing downhill just to enjoy MTB, it took me a long time to realise that so give it a go