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Question THREDBO INSTRUCTORS Please explain

Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by lonsdale, Jul 10, 2016.

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  1. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Only rule i ever got in trouble for was wearing uniform at a bar after 6 pm.EDIT Nothin sleazy happened in the 80s .
     
  2. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thread is finally showing a glimmer of hope.
     
  3. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    No, I just don't think there is an issue getting kids to ski with a helmet if that is what a parent wants to do, regardless of what an instructor is wearing. That is all.
     
  4. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    vibe++ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Nothing worse than watching parents trying to reason with children. If you have to resort to tricks etc your in for a world of pain. The earlier they learn to do as their told without some 20 min discussion the better. We have a saying in our household "suck it up princess"
     
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  6. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    The parenting oracle says you are due for interesting times.
     
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  7. vibe++

    vibe++ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have explained to them the good old days of wooden spoons,clip around the ears, kick up the arse, mothers who could throw slippers around corners. So far so good, they do have the occasional sulk but thats what they have bedrooms for.
     
  8. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Get back to me in a few years. One tricky thing about kids is that they grow up.
     
  9. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    The constant is that parents are the ones that should be taking responsibility for guiding their children. They should not be relying on the rest of the world to pander to their inadequacies.
     
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  10. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Projecting personal kid issues on others and expounding an "all must do to appease" line of thought is some of the most confused self indulgent rhetoric I have encountered on these forums.

    The "issue", if there even is one beyond a whole lot of idiotic words, lies not with others.
     
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  11. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Absolutely, but it is reasonable to hope that those to whom we occasionally sub-contract care of our children will support the parental position.

    Is it really that hard?
    What?
     
  12. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think we can sum it up thus

    Helmets in snowsports=right to arm bears.
     
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  13. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    They already do. Except if our parental position is free choice.
     
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  14. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    If the ski school did not mandate that helmets where worn by children then the parental position would be one of personal choice and vary accordingly. By "sub-contracting" you accept the terms of the product.

    Are you sure you are a lawyer because your arguments are incredibly under developed. ?
     
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  15. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Parental positions are many and varied. Your kids will learn soon enough that no matter what rules you have, others will have different rules.

    "That's how we do it in our family" is the start and end of it when it comes to the crunch.
     
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  16. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Could you blokes read your posts before pressing the button? Just so there is a better chance that they make sense.

    I have no idea what you are on about.
     
  17. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    So business as usual then?
     
  18. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    Classic WASP attitude. "Not my opinion so I don't understand".
     
  19. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    No. It's just that you all seem to be arguing with someone who is advocating compulsory helmets for kids, which abrogates parental responsibility. I don't know who that bloke is, and I haven't seen any of his posts, but it is definitely not me.

    My position is, has always been and remains that, once parents have made their choice, the choice should be supported by ski school.
     
  20. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Which IMO is fair enough, as they are paying. The OP is not the first parent I have heard querying helmet wear by their kids instructors, though many are also unconcerned.
     
  21. cold wombat

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    Maybe some parents make the choice of noncompulsory helmets and forcing helmets when they're clearly not needed goes against their position. See, no matter what the position is, there will be parents with an alternative position. Stop trying to chase an impossible (and quite frankly unnecessary) nirvana.
     
  22. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Why do the vast majority of parents make their kids wear helmets? Pretty rare day I see anyone under about 15 without one.
     
  23. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    My kids have the choice. They mostly wear their helmets. But there are times where it doesn't make sense.
     
  24. gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    it cuts beanie costs?
     
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  25. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    You see this is my point. This bloke is arguing with some other bloke who thinks helmets should be compulsory. That is not me, but I wish them well in their discussions.
     
  26. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    But you're trying to force ski school instructors to wear helmets. That would go against my point.
     
  27. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think they should wear this on wet days

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  28. DbSki

    DbSki Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    The parents pay for a ski lesson and that's all
    If they want the instructor to wear a attire of their choice also that should cost them extra.
    If they want to instructor to read the kid books and tell them stories they should have to pay more for that service.
    But they wont, so as long as they pay only for a ski lesson they should expect no more than just a ski lesson.
     
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  29. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    they can't in every case. There's more than one choice.
     
  30. dawooduck

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    Its a thing ...
     
  31. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    I reckon bus drivers should wear uniforms too.

    Of course the instructors could always get a note from their mummies saying they don't have to....
     
  32. shark

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    Walli left his helmet at FF. He's not going back for it

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  33. cold wombat

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    I guess when you run out of arguments...
     
  34. LMB

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    I can't speak for everyone else but I made mine wear helmets for 2 reasons - other people taking them out (especially crowded locations) and because they were little risk takers - in the trees, in the park, popping off every kicker they could find.

    I think making ski school helmet use compulsory for under 12s is a good idea. They don't have fully developed risk assessment abilities and their peripheral vision isn't all that well developed (some research re:kids crossing roads in their own). I feel like their little heads are more fragile than my big boof head too.


    As adults I respect their ability to make an informed decision to wear one or not. They are all better boarders than I am. I might not agree with their choice one way or another on the day, but as they are adults it is no longer my choice.
    So...let it go....let it go...
     
  35. telecrag

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    No way, you made them, you own them!
     
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  36. DbSki

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    People seem to get the idea that because they paid for a service they some how have paid for the right to more.
    Got this driving Taxis, some people think because they paid for a cab ride they own the cab and driver and can do and say what they like in the cab, like hell.
     
  37. Legs Akimbo

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    I haven't run out of arguments. I'm amusing myself until you can come up with one.
     
  38. cold wombat

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    ROFL

    You want to jump up and down and insist that ski instructors must wear helmets to support parents insisting on helmets. But you can't offer anything when its pointed out not all parents want to insist on helmets and even many of those that do aren't fussed about instructors wearing helmets. Gotcha. Nice argument.

    :thumbs:
     
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  39. gareth_oau

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    Unless a law exists, then its up to Thredbo as the instructor's employer to contractually determine if he/she must wear a helmet, and up to Thredbo to decide if, contractually, kids, or any other party using Thredbo's school, must wear a helmet.

    If thredbo decides that everyone must wear pink tutus in ski school, then that is the rule (good luck on them enforcing it though LOL)
     
  40. D-eye

    D-eye Photographer and skier Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    This is drifting a bit too far for this part of the forum. I'm locking it.
     
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